Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

[Rogue Valley]

Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

Protests by furloughed federal workers are now taking place in front of the Trump White House.

1/13/19
By a wide margin, more Americans blame President Trump and Republicans in Congress than congressional Democrats for the now record-breaking government shutdown, and most reject the president’s assertion that there is an illegal-immigration crisis on the southern border, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll. Support for building a wall on the border, which is the principal sticking point in the stalemate between the president and Democrats, has increased over the past year. Today, 42 percent say they support a wall, up from 34 percent last January. A slight majority of Americans (54 percent) oppose the idea, down from 63 percent a year ago. The increase in support is sharpest among Republicans, whose backing for Trump’s long-standing campaign promise jumped 16 points in the past year, from 71 percent to 87 percent. Not only has GOP support increased, it has also hardened. Today, 70 percent of Republicans say they strongly support the wall, an increase of 12 points since January 2018.

Concerning the allocation of blame, 53 percent say Trump and the Republicans are mainly at fault, and 29 percent blame the Democrats in Congress. Thirteen percent say both sides bear equal responsibility for the shutdown. That is identical to the end of the 16-day shutdown in 2013, when 29 percent blamed then-President Barack Obama and 53 percent put the responsibility on congressional Republicans. A predictable partisan divide shapes the blame game, with 85 percent of Democrats citing Trump and Republicans as the cause and 68 percent of Republicans pointing the finger at congressional Democrats. Independents fix the blame squarely on the president and his party rather than on the Democrats, by 53 percent to 23 percent. Women blame Trump and Republicans by a margin of 35 points, and men blame the president and the GOP by 13 points. Trump has threatened repeatedly to declare a national emergency to break the stalemate and to order the start of construction of a wall, although on Friday, he retreated from his previously aggressive rhetoric by noting that he is not ready to take such a step now. The president faces sizable opposition from the public were he to do so. By more than 2-1 (66 percent to 31 percent), Americans say they oppose invoking an emergency to build a border wall.

The Trump/GOP bloc is losing the public relations battle. This negative trend can only increase as furloughed federal workers begin to be seriously affected financially by the shutdown.

The Democrat controlled US House has already passed the 6 CRs needed to end the partial government shutdown of 9 federal departments and 800,000+ federal workers.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R/KY) will not allow the US Senate to vote on these 6 funding CRs.

 

[washunut]

Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

Protests by furloughed federal workers are now taking place in front of the Trump White House.



The Trump/GOP bloc is losing the public relations battle. This negative trend can only increase as furloughed federal workers begin to be seriously affected financially by the shutdown.

The Democrat controlled US House has already passed the 6 CRs needed to end the partial government shutdown of 9 federal departments and 800,000+ federal workers.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R/KY) will not allow the US Senate to vote on these 6 funding CRs.

Hard to imagine that a public fed anti-Trump garbage from nearly every TV and newspaper would feel that way. What percent of the people who disapprove know that a barrier was voted on in an overwhelming,bipartisan way before Trump was president. What percent of the people feel we do not have an illegal immigration problem?

 

[NeverTrump]

Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

Protests by furloughed federal workers are now taking place in front of the Trump White House.



The Trump/GOP bloc is losing the public relations battle. This negative trend can only increase as furloughed federal workers begin to be seriously affected financially by the shutdown.

The Democrat controlled US House has already passed the 6 CRs needed to end the partial government shutdown of 9 federal departments and 800,000+ federal workers.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R/KY) will not allow the US Senate to vote on these 6 funding CRs.

For awhile there Trump had 30-32% base. Now it seems he has a 29% base. Translation- He hasn't lost any support among said base. That is forking terrifying. Make you wonder what exactly will get them to stop following him? They don't care Trump hid the Russian meetings from them. So one has to wonder what type of Kompromat would force them to give up their support? A video of Trump having sex with children? A video of him kissing Putin? A video of Trump murdering someone?

 

[NeverTrump]

Hard to imagine that a public fed anti-Trump garbage from nearly every TV and newspaper would feel that way.

Maybe cause Trump is garbage?

 

[ttwtt78640]

Passing (endless?) CRs is part of the problem thus not part of the solution. Congress has not passed the (required?) 'budget' bills before the start of the fiscal year since 1997. I keep hoping that, maybe, in the next election cycle we do not return over 90% of these clowns to congress as we the sheeple normally do.

 

[Chomsky]

The question is:

"Who do Republicans Blame?"

Because that will largely determining Trump & McConnel's actions ...

 

[ttwtt78640]

The question is:

"Who do Republicans Blame?"

Because that will largely determining Trump & McConnel's actions ...

A better question is why passing more CRs (doing the same thing?) over and over should yield a better result this time?

 

[MrPeanut]

I'd like to see them separate Trump and Republicans. Trump has been an amazing heat shield while pushing mostly standard Republican policies. I'd like to see how many people hold the Republicans accountable.

 

[OscarLevant]

Hard to imagine that a public fed anti-Trump garbage from nearly every TV and newspaper would feel that way. What percent of the people who disapprove know that a barrier was voted on in an overwhelming,bipartisan way before Trump was president. What percent of the people feel we do not have an illegal immigration problem?

In PR, none of that matters, only the fact of the PR disaster.

 

[Rogue Valley]

For awhile there Trump had 30-32% base. Now it seems he has a 29% base. Translation- He hasn't lost any support among said base.

Looking at it more pragmatically, Trump has failed to increase his base in over two years of power with an enabling GOP Congress.

This doesn't bode well for Trump in 2020.

 

[Greenbeard]

For awhile there Trump had 30-32% base. Now it seems he has a 29% base. Translation- He hasn't lost any support among said base. That is forking terrifying. Make you wonder what exactly will get them to stop following him? They don't care Trump hid the Russian meetings from them. So one has to wonder what type of Kompromat would force them to give up their support? A video of Trump having sex with children? A video of him kissing Putin? A video of Trump murdering someone?

IIRC, even Dubya's approval was in the high-20s or so while the economy was collapsing to the tune of 800K jobs lost per month. So that's more-or-less the dead-ender threshold.

 

[washunut]

I'd like to see them separate Trump and Republicans. Trump has been an amazing heat shield while pushing mostly standard Republican policies. I'd like to see how many people hold the Republicans accountable.

The funny thing is if Hillary had been the presumptive Republican candidate Trump might have run as a candidate. Lets assume he got through the primaries. He would have still beaten Clinton,perhaps by a much wider margin. Schumer and Pelosi would be demanding funding for the wall,said it about time to get our kids out of harm's way etc.

For most politicians and media politics is just a high paying,power enhancing job. These folks become beloved like rock stars,athletes etc. Probably while at home with friends they have to laugh and shake their collective heads as to how the lemmings on either side lap this **** up.

 

[MrPeanut]

The funny thing is if Hillary had been the presumptive Republican candidate Trump might have run as a candidate. Lets assume he got through the primaries. He would have still beaten Clinton,perhaps by a much wider margin. Schumer and Pelosi would be demanding funding for the wall,said it about time to get our kids out of harm's way etc.

For most politicians and media politics is just a high paying,power enhancing job. These folks become beloved like rock stars,athletes etc. Probably while at home with friends they have to laugh and shake their collective heads as to how the lemmings on either side lap this **** up.

So you believe that there is no difference between republicans and democrats? Trump would've never won a democratic primary. His marketing strategy worked well with republicans because he only had to sell himself to rural white voters. Democrats have to sell themselves to a diverse constituency and it would be impossible for Trump to thread that needle. He is just too clumsy to pull that off. I agree that our political system is corrupt, and the majority of representatives in Congress couldn't care less about their voters actual needs, but someone running on "Build that Wall" would never win a democratic primary.

 

[Chomsky]

A better question is why passing more CRs (doing the same thing?) over and over should yield a better result this time?

In relation to the topic (polling), I don't see that (better). But that's not to say your question isn't relevant to the larger situation at hand.

 

[washunut]

So you believe that there is no difference between republicans and democrats? Trump would've never won a democratic primary. His marketing strategy worked well with republicans because he only had to sell himself to rural white voters. Democrats have to sell themselves to a diverse constituency and it would be impossible for Trump to thread that needle. He is just too clumsy to pull that off. I agree that our political system is corrupt, and the majority of representatives in Congress couldn't care less about their voters actual needs, but someone running on "Build that Wall" would never win a democratic primary.

Please read my post a little for clearly. I DID put say IF he got through the primaries. Let's remember that the democratic primary field was essentially Bernie Sanders. A little known socialist senator from Vermont. Not saying Trump would have won the primary but if he did how he would have done against Hillary in the general election. Where in the states that control most of the electoral votes vote D reflexively.

 

[Chomsky]

For awhile there Trump had 30-32% base. Now it seems he has a 29% base. Translation- He hasn't lost any support among said base. That is forking terrifying. Make you wonder what exactly will get them to stop following him? They don't care Trump hid the Russian meetings from them. So one has to wonder what type of Kompromat would force them to give up their support? A video of Trump having sex with children? A video of him kissing Putin? A video of Trump murdering someone?

And neither have the Dems lost any base.

In fact, the Dems seem to be gaining momentum. But truth is, it's the Indies that will decide 2020.

Though with Dem enthusiasm off-the-hook, and PA, MI, WI subsequently having flipped back Blue, I'd wager Trump is toast even if we removed Indies from the equation.

 

[Chomsky]

IIRC, even Dubya's approval was in the high-20s or so while the economy was collapsing to the tune of 800K jobs lost per month. So that's more-or-less the dead-ender threshold.

And IIRC, even Nixon had around 28% or so, on the day of his resignation. So yeah, upper 20's does seem to be a floor of sorts.

 

[Greenbeard]

And IIRC, even Nixon had around 28% or so, on the day of his resignation. So yeah, upper 20's does seem to be a floor of sorts.

Amazing that it can be reached in peacetime with an economy at full employment.

 

[TheRepublican]

Of course they do because they already have it out for trump

 

[Chomsky]

Amazing that it can be reached in peacetime with an economy at full employment.

The main thing that gives Trump a hope for 2020, is the economy. But if it goes South, Trump's fate is sealed. The economy can't necessarily save Trump, but it can definitely doom him.

Of course the other thing that gives him a shot, is the possibility of a crap Dem candidate; and that's not purely an outside shot.

 

[NeverTrump]

The main thing that gives Trump a hope for 2020, is the economy. But if it goes South, Trump's fate is sealed. The economy can't necessarily save Trump, but it can definitely doom him.

Of course the other thing that gives him a shot, is the possibility of a crap Dem candidate; and that's not purely an outside shot.

Lots of people in the midwest already feel fleeced by Trump. They have been talking to the media about dropping him, but so far it's been scatter town. I'm sure he can easily persuade them to vote for him again, however we'll see if the Dems go out and stay on message by not even mentioning Trump. I think Beto will do great in the midwest and so will Biden. Castro may do well in southern midwest.

 

[Chomsky]

Lots of people in the midwest already feel fleeced by Trump. They have been talking to the media about dropping him, but so far it's been scatter town. I'm sure he can easily persuade them to vote for him again, however we'll see if the Dems go out and stay on message by not even mentioning Trump. I think Beto will do great in the midwest and so will Biden. Castro may do well in southern midwest.

Honestly, I do not see Trump regaining the suburban women that went for him in 2016. Remember, the three states I mentioned (WI, PA, MI) all were won by Trump as total "squeakers" - far less than 1% of the vote.

At this time, I just don't see him beating the Dem energy unless they run another poor candidate. That's always a possibility. I look at Warren in the front of the pack, and I literally cringe!

 

[NeverTrump]

Honestly, I do not see Trump regaining the suburban women that went for him in 2016. Remember, the three states I mentioned (WI, PA, MI) all were won by Trump as total "squeakers" - far less than 1% of the vote.

At this time, I just don't see him beating the Dem energy unless they run another poor candidate. That's always a possibility. I look at Warren in the front of the pack, and I literally cringe!

Warren is gonna be the Rick Perry of 2020. She'll drop out first and that's likely the reason she announced so early. I have my eye on Castro as being Dark Horse, but that could change if Booker jumps in. Otherwise it's Beto VS Biden til the bitter end.

 

[jnug]

Well Trump has one argument going his way in this shutdown fiasco. Under his administration even when Government is functioning its a screaming, dysfunctional mess.

I had thought FDA and Dept of Agriculture were in trouble since Trump came to town and sure enough, even when in business 2018 saw more foodborne illness and contamination issues strike the US than we have seen in years, up 96% from 2016. Just took Trump a year to screw up both departments and a year for the results to come in.

Gee, do you guys on the Right have to eat or does drinking all that Trumpaide provide all the necessities of a daily diet while providing that Trump drug. Putting a dunce cap that does not care or know a single thing about governance might not have been such a great idea.

 

[Grokmaster]

Americans blame Trump and GOP much more than Democrats for shutdown, Post-ABC poll finds

Protests by furloughed federal workers are now taking place in front of the Trump White House.



The Trump/GOP bloc is losing the public relations battle. This negative trend can only increase as furloughed federal workers begin to be seriously affected financially by the shutdown.

The Democrat controlled US House has already passed the 6 CRs needed to end the partial government shutdown of 9 federal departments and 800,000+ federal workers.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R/KY) will not allow the US Senate to vote on these 6 funding CRs.

Washington Post/ABC poll? Let's see the SAMPLLING DATA, showing how much LEFTISTS were oversampled= not in your article (big surprise there!!)


Really?