American made products tagged 187

[presluc]

Now for those that don't know what 187 means , it is murder ,death , kill.

American corporations are killing American made products and replacing them with a slip of paper called a Label

.While this is going on America is in a spiral of debt in national debt, IOUS and trade deficits.
Then there's the unemployed , the poor and the elderly.

A Mr. Ryan has proposed a bill for budget cuts from education, food stamps and medicare,which could help but these are all directed at the poor.

My question is what budget cuts are directed at the rich if any at all??eace

Ladies and Gentlemen I await your comments or views on this subject

 

[Fisher]

Now for those that don't know what 187 means , it is murder ,death , kill.

American corporations are killing American made products and replacing them with a slip of paper called a Label

.While this is going on America is in a spiral of debt in national debt, IOUS and trade deficits.
Then there's the unemployed , the poor and the elderly.

A Mr. Ryan has proposed a bill for budget cuts from education, food stamps and medicare,which could help but these are all directed at the poor.

My question is what budget cuts are directed at the rich if any at all??eace

Ladies and Gentlemen I await your comments or views on this subject

Google and Facebook manufacture nothing and soak up an enormous amount of wealth. Apple creates very little in the US, ships its profits overseas and soaks up an enormous amount of US wealth. Perhaps instead of blaming all corporations, you could advocate for things like excise taxes on software and electronics where a ton of money goes virtually tax free as opposed to going after all corporations, many of which are struggling under the weight of the leftist culture war......they are incorporated--them be evil people. Let's Kill them!!

 

[fmw]

Google and Facebook manufacture nothing and soak up an enormous amount of wealth. Apple creates very little in the US, ships its profits overseas and soaks up an enormous amount of US wealth. Perhaps instead of blaming all corporations, you could advocate for things like excise taxes on software and electronics where a ton of money goes virtually tax free as opposed to going after all corporations, many of which are struggling under the weight of the leftist culture war......they are incorporated--them be evil people. Let's Kill them!!

It would be far easier simply to put tariffs on the imports.

 

[Fisher]

It would be far easier simply to put tariffs on the imports.

Well clearly we won't on all imports because GM fears other will retaliate and put more tariffs on their car exports and our import-export policy is oriented around our ability to sell cars overseas because pols have obsessed about that since Reagan. As far as being far easier, I disagree. It would be no different than putting taxes specifically on gas or tobacco which we already do.

 

[Wiseone]

Is that a Demolition Man reference? Awesome.

 

[austrianecon]

It would be far easier simply to put tariffs on the imports.

Check out Smoot-Hawley Tariff act.

 

[fmw]

Check out Smoot-Hawley Tariff act.

Why? Laws can be changed.

 

[fmw]

Well clearly we won't on all imports because GM fears other will retaliate and put more tariffs on their car exports and our import-export policy is oriented around our ability to sell cars overseas because pols have obsessed about that since Reagan. As far as being far easier, I disagree. It would be no different than putting taxes specifically on gas or tobacco which we already do.

But that won't help return manufacturing and jobs to the U.S. Who do you think would win a trade war?

 

[Fisher]

But that won't help return manufacturing and jobs to the U.S. Who do you think would win a trade war?

Manufacturing jobs will not be returning to the US until such time as the US offers something that other nations cannot. What that is depends on the business and the circumstances that exist at the time. Regardless, if the goal is to increase revenues to be able to sustain these ridiculously expensive unending social welfare programs, creating jobs is only a part of the equation.

 

[presluc]

Google and Facebook manufacture nothing and soak up an enormous amount of wealth. Apple creates very little in the US, ships its profits overseas and soaks up an enormous amount of US wealth. Perhaps instead of blaming all corporations, you could advocate for things like excise taxes on software and electronics where a ton of money goes virtually tax free as opposed to going after all corporations, many of which are struggling under the weight of the leftist culture war......they are incorporated--them be evil people. Let's Kill them!!

Leftist culture War? lol
Why a Leftist culture war why not a political war or a rich class war or a CEO WAR?

Look when a majority of Americans were working making enough to pay taxes and pay bills and live comfortably they didn't give a damn how much the rich got or the government took as long as they could pay taxes and pay bills and still live comfortable not in a mansion ,not with a new car but comfortable.

However today that is not the case the rich the corporations , the Government are in the SPOTLIGHT. outsourcing causes unemployment so people without jobs or lower paying jobs or working 2 jobs to make ends meet take a hard look at the rich CEOS, and their tax cuts, the corporations and their research grants the "no bid contracts , the lobbyist, the money Government spent on bills like gay marriage, marijuana and other pet projects . health care that isn't really Health care but an Insurance ad.

Corporations ships parts overseas for foreign labor to work on and then ship the finished product back when it could be made here. in here U.S. without all that fuel of going back and forth..
Americans are told to preserve fuel guess corporations didn't get the memo?huh?eace

 

[presluc]

It would be far easier simply to put tariffs on the imports.

Would that be all imports including American label made by foreign laborers ?eace

 

[presluc]

Well clearly we won't on all imports because GM fears other will retaliate and put more tariffs on their car exports and our import-export policy is oriented around our ability to sell cars overseas because pols have obsessed about that since Reagan. As far as being far easier, I disagree. It would be no different than putting taxes specifically on gas or tobacco which we already do.

Where is the American auto companies today. Gm well? Chrysler, or is it Fiat? Ford being beaten on the home front by foreign made cars time after time.

As far as the balance between exports and imports where is it now???eace

 

[presluc]

Is that a Demolition Man reference? Awesome.

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Could be , but actually I was just being prepared cause if I had said Kill somebody might have said "NO IT WAS AN ACCIDENT" if I had said murder they might have said "NO IT WAS SUICIDE" ,.

However, death is death , and American made products are dieing off and endangered species which may become extinct.eace

 

[presluc]

Check out Smoot-Hawley Tariff act.

Check out the unemployment and those working at below poverty wage in America today.eace

 

[presluc]

But that won't help return manufacturing and jobs to the U.S. Who do you think would win a trade war?

With FREE TRADE one need not ask?eace

 

[presluc]

Manufacturing jobs will not be returning to the US until such time as the US offers something that other nations cannot. What that is depends on the business and the circumstances that exist at the time. Regardless, if the goal is to increase revenues to be able to sustain these ridiculously expensive unending social welfare programs, creating jobs is only a part of the equation.

First of all China does a lot of manufacturing , America owes China so how did that work out?

Second of all I keep hearing about these expensive unending social welfare programs "which is easy to fix give them jobs make them work for a living ".

However, I hear no mention of the 740 billion tax payer money in bailouts that went to private organizations?
I hear nothing of the money spent on research grants for alternative fuel while yelling DRILL BABY DRILL.?
I do not hear the exact amount of taxpayer money that a billionaire gets from the government?
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

The elderly and the poor will be with us always Government pays . that is chance
The unemployed need not be with us government pays , that is choiceeace

 

[fmw]

Would that be all imports including American label made by foreign laborers ?eace

Absolutely.

 

[presluc]

Absolutely.

I'm down with that.eace

 

[Fisher]

Where is the American auto companies today. Gm well? Chrysler, or is it Fiat? Ford being beaten on the home front by foreign made cars time after time.

As far as the balance between exports and imports where is it now???eace

Our trade policy is geared toward selling Buicks in China whether you agree or not.

 

[beerftw]

It would be far easier simply to put tariffs on the imports.

thats been tried before.

anything other than small tarrifs for revenue purposes gets seem by other countries as us trying to block out competition to protect ourseles at their expense.those countries would therefor put tarrifs on us goods,hurting our exports and effectively lowering our gdp to worse than it would have without exports.if we add even more tarrifs,the other countries do as well,until most trading between countries stops.

go lookup smoot hawley,it caused a massive tarrif war that made the great depression many times greater,cut trade exports in half for the us,and skyrocketed prices at home,it was so bad fdr repealed it despite his support for keeping it,due to widespread opinion against it and all historical fact showing it to be a failure.

 

[austrianecon]

Why? Laws can be changed.

Smoot-Hawley Tariff

 

[austrianecon]

Check out the unemployment and those working at below poverty wage in America today.eace

Raising tariffs harms the economy. You will have more unemployment.

Doesn't matter. For example.. U.S. imports from Europe declined from $1,334 million in 1929 to just $390 million by 1932, U.S. exports to Europe fell from $2,341 million in 1929 to $784 million in 1932. Overall, world trade declined by some 66% between 1929 and 1934.

 

[blackjack50]

Business is good. If you can generate money here in the United States...that is good. An American made good means Americans were paid. If a majority of the profit is American...great.

People have this idea that corporations are bad. They aren't. Corporates are greedy...but they make money. If the idiots in government would keep them on a free market system of succeed or die...we would be ok. "Too big to fail" was a joke! If GM sank tomorrow...what would happen? Other American car companies would fill the void.

Amtrak? Look at the money sunk into that. Or hell...the USPS. Unions kill things when they run amok. Corporations are a problem when they don't get the net taken out from their tightrope act of making money. Letting the government try and manage other people's money is HILARIOUSLY ironic! They can't manage their own.

So seriously. Regulate the monopolies so that everyone gets competition, keep people from destroying the Earth, and kill politicians that take money from Union or corporations. .