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America that no longer exists.

1) Socialism \ capitalism - is the political-philosophical question. And long conversation. Let's leave it to the professionals.

Ok then.

2) USSR was present in the other countries at the request of the governments of these countries. In addition, the USSR built in those countries - schools, factories, roads, dams .... (If you're interested - look in Google. Example. What built the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. What built the USA in Afghanistan. Compare. And you will understand who is "less bad")

And those governments where instated by whom may I ask? The governments that "asked" the soviets to enter were soviet puppets anyway.



touché....


Are you laughing? Or kidding?

No.


Hungary, like Romania, Italy, japan, norway, finland ..... .... in World War II fought on the side of the fascists. Hungary in World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Some of those in the countries mentioned will undoubtedly resisted fascist invasion, such as Romania or Norway. With the exception of Finland, who were trying to protect their sovereignty against the Soviets and asked for German help, and Japan and Italy who were willingly allied to Germany.
 
And those governments where instated by whom may I ask? The governments that "asked" the soviets to enter were soviet puppets anyway.

The government these countries was legitimate. Members of the United Nations. And legally, the Soviet Union was present in these countries at the request of the governments of these countries. USSR different from the West. Example. Remember the bombing of Serbia without UN authorization. Remember Libya. Remember arms shipments to the Syrian terrorists. (which (the terrorists) then killed, for example, the British soldiers in England.)

Some of those in the countries mentioned will undoubtedly resisted fascist invasion, such as Romania or Norway. With the exception of Finland, who were trying to protect their sovereignty against the Soviets and asked for German help, and Japan and Italy who were willingly allied to Germany.

Hungarian (as well as Italian and Romanian) fought on the side of the Germans at Stalingrad and Voronezh. captive Hungarians.
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The government these countries was legitimate. Members of the United Nations. And legally, the Soviet Union was present in these countries at the request of the governments of these countries. USSR different from the West. Example. Remember the bombing of Serbia without UN authorization. Remember Libya. Remember arms shipments to the Syrian terrorists. (which (the terrorists) then killed, for example, the British soldiers in England.)



Hungarian (as well as Italian and Romanian) fought on the side of the Germans at Stalingrad and Voronezh. captive Hungarians.
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The Soviet Union was the ally of Nazi-Germany during the first two years of WWII.
 
The Soviet Union was the ally of Nazi-Germany during the first two years of WWII.

* laughs * The Western countries were allies of the Nazis with 1938 (the Munich Agreement). And West financed fascism with the 20s (Incidentally, now the Western countries finance Islamic fundamentalism. What for?). So do not the West of blame USSR. In addition, it Russian soldiers took Berlin. (Thread: America that no longer exists.)
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* laughs * The Western countries were allies of the Nazis with 1938 (the Munich Agreement). And West financed fascism with the 20s (Incidentally, now the Western countries finance Islamic fundamentalism. What for?). So do not the West of blame USSR. In addition, it Russian soldiers took Berlin. (Thread: America that no longer exists.)
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That is simply not true.
Are you also going to post some pictures of the mass graves at Katyn where the Soviet Union butchered Polish prisoners of war?
 
That is simply not true.
Are you also going to post some pictures of the mass graves at Katyn where the Soviet Union butchered Polish prisoners of war?

* laughs * What is not true? You do not believe- that Russian soldiers took Berlin? Do you think that picture - photoshop? You need to be treated.

The pictures shot by Poles ask the Goebbels. March 20, 2012 The fifth section ECHR of seven judges, representing Luxembourg, the Czech Republic, Slovenia, Liechtenstein, Russia, Ukraine and Germany, announced the official decision on the Katyn case. In the ECHR, it was designated as "Janowiec and Others v. Russia". Complaints number 55508/07 and the number 29520/09. -
The Court did not find any new evidence or evidence on which one can to oblige the Russian authorities to reopen the investigation, "Katyn case" (para. 142 th solutions). He also rejected requirements the plaintiffs' Polish awarding them compensation. In 1994-1995, the Poles carried out excavations in Katyn. They found 241 sleeve of the cartridge 7.65 Browning, with 162 of them managed to identify the manufacturer - Geco+DWM. Copper deficiency in 1941 forced Germany the master production even cheaper cartridge pure steel liner . Photo casings found at Katyn during excavations in 1943. From the German book "Official documents about the Katyn murder" Even this photo shows that one of the sleeves is coated with a thick layer clearly rust. So much rust in just 1-3 years could only steel case.

A steel sleeve in Germany began to be produced only in January 1941.

Thus, all finally becomes clear - " evil" of the NKVD well, could not, in April 1940 to shoot the Poles with cartridges made ​​in 1941. Read less Western propaganda. (photo number 2 - Munich collusion, September 29, 1938. Left to right: Chamberlain, Daladier, Hitler, Mussolini and Ciano) (Thread: America that no longer exists.)
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* laughs * What is not true? You do not believe- that Russian soldiers took Berlin? Do you think that picture - photoshop? You need to be treated.

The pictures shot by Poles ask the Goebbels. March 20, 2012 The fifth section ECHR of seven judges, representing Luxembourg, the Czech Republic, Slovenia, Liechtenstein, Russia, Ukraine and Germany, announced the official decision on the Katyn case. In the ECHR, it was designated as "Janowiec and Others v. Russia". Complaints number 55508/07 and the number 29520/09. -
The Court did not find any new evidence or evidence on which one can to oblige the Russian authorities to reopen the investigation, "Katyn case" (para. 142 th solutions). He also rejected requirements the plaintiffs' Polish awarding them compensation. In 1994-1995, the Poles carried out excavations in Katyn. They found 241 sleeve of the cartridge 7.65 Browning, with 162 of them managed to identify the manufacturer - Geco+DWM. Copper deficiency in 1941 forced Germany the master production even cheaper cartridge pure steel liner . Photo casings found at Katyn during excavations in 1943. From the German book "Official documents about the Katyn murder" Even this photo shows that one of the sleeves is coated with a thick layer clearly rust. So much rust in just 1-3 years could only steel case.

A steel sleeve in Germany began to be produced only in January 1941.

Thus, all finally becomes clear - " evil" of the NKVD well, could not, in April 1940 to shoot the Poles with cartridges made ​​in 1941. Read less Western propaganda. (photo number 2 - Munich collusion, September 29, 1938. Left to right: Chamberlain, Daladier, Hitler, Mussolini and Ciano) (Thread: America that no longer exists.)
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No use in debating with people who deny facts. You're the equivalent of a holocaust denier.
 
No use in debating with people who deny facts. You're the equivalent of a holocaust denier.

* Смеется * Я тоже так думаю.
 
No use in debating with people who deny facts. You're the equivalent of a holocaust denier.

It is even more pathetic when the leaders of both the Soviet Union as well as Russia have admitted that it was Soviet troops that did it, and apologized for it all. Boris Yeltsin had even released the note hand written and signed by Lavrenty Beria ordering the massacre in the first place.

Yet people still deny it. Interestingly enough however, the loudest denials come not from "Russians", but "Communists". Every Russian President since the Soviet Union broke up has apologized to Poland, and admitted what had happened. It is only the Communists who refuse to admit what really happened.

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That to me is like a Southern American denying that the Klan ever existed.
 
What the ****ing hell is going on in this thread man?

Is this an episode of the twilight zone?
 
still not getting Tovarish's point.

Is McDonald's good or bad?

Is he/she saying marriage equality finally coming is awesome like some of the other stuff posted?

What's the big deal about the F1 pilot?

what is the point of this thread? Why am I reading it? Why am I posting on it? what is the meaning of life? oh,that's right - 42.
 
Andy Warhol is worthless? Right, one of the greatest artists in the 20th century is worthless because of his sexuality. I don't think you really understand this country or its values.

either that or because his art sucks all on its own :shock:
 
It is even more pathetic when the leaders of both the Soviet Union as well as Russia have admitted that it was Soviet troops that did it, and apologized for it all. Boris Yeltsin had even released the note hand written and signed by Lavrenty Beria ordering the massacre in the first place.

Yet people still deny it. Interestingly enough however, the loudest denials come not from "Russians", but "Communists". Every Russian President since the Soviet Union broke up has apologized to Poland, and admitted what had happened. It is only the Communists who refuse to admit what really happened.

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That to me is like a Southern American denying that the Klan ever existed.

* Laughs * The photo paper is written: "In the camps for prisoners of war contained many former officers of the Polish Army, former police and intelligence agencies. They are the enemies of Soviet power, and hate the Soviet system. NKVD exposed several terrorist organizations composed of former Polish officers, police and gendarmes. Among those detained many defectors (those who fought on the German side), and violators of state ... (most likely the state border of the USSR) " What proves this document? Why are you showing this document? ..... However, at the Western propaganda always meaningless "evidence." Recall the chemical weapons Saddam Hussein.
 
What the ****ing hell is going on in this thread man?

Is this an episode of the twilight zone?

In the subject (as in any other), Americans, zombiing Western media, want to talk about "the bloody Stalin" and "bloody KGB - the NKVD." If they do not write about the horrors of the Soviet Union - Russia, they probably can not live. It's like a junkie without a fix.
 
The point is to post tons of sexy Marilyn's pics... lol :2razz:



Fallen.

Funny how tastes have changed. Norma Jean would have a tough go trying to be a sex symbol today.
 
Where are the pictures of women getting paid less than men? Where is the picture of Alan Turing, who killed himself because he feared being outed as gay? Where is the picture of the black men being lynched by whites? Where are the pictures from the dust bowl?

Heck, how about pictures of some fine actors and actresses from today? Brad Pitt, Robin Weigart, Dame Helen Mirren... so many more!

There is no "perfect" era of American history; but thank goodness our country continues to improve itself with every decade, in the area of women's rights, civil rights, and yes - marriage equality and other things that are blocking discrimination based on sexual orientation. We are slowly getting closer to our true ideals - all created equal.

I am glad the American of the 30s (depression), the 40s (WW II and the dropping of the atom bomb), the 50s (McCarthyism, women pushed back into the house) no longer exists. There were good moments in those decades such as Truman integrating the military service; but there were horrible moments as well.

I like our advances in medical and other technology too.

Not so thrilled with the Patriot act, but the govt has been overbearing in prior generations as well.

We continue to improve, to achieve, and to expand rights to more groups.

Yea for now! and hope tomorrow will be even better!

I don't know. Do you know that Tomorrowland in Disneyland has shifted from being about optimism for the future to theme rides based on Disney science fiction movies? The kind of optimism about the future that made thinking about it fun is gone. When was the last time a science fiction movie wasn't about a dystopian future? Things like exploration of the planets, flying cars, jet packs, etc., seem unlikely. Nor does anyone foresee any big innovations.

So now it's a future of diminished expectations -- less energy, less prosperity, falling birth rate and falling population. And everyone reduced to the same level. Excellence and prosperity will be punished more and more; failure and mediocrity will be celebrated.
 
Funny how tastes have changed. Norma Jean would have a tough go trying to be a sex symbol today.

I don't really think that the actual tastes of men changed that much (though I'm basing this assumption solely on the opinions of my own friends and the people that I met over the years), meaning that men still like large breasts, ass, curves, etc...despite all the "thin is good" rhetoric that we've all heard over and over for the past 50 years or so.

Cheers,
Fallen.
 
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