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Showing the flag
..... But just as President Putin predicted, it appears to have use in countering Russian threats as well.....
Putin is a genius.
But it is a pretty nice boat. I hope he doesn't sink it.
Sometimes we learn the hard way. Its such a far cry from pleasing our enemies.
Obama abandons missile defence shield in Europe | World news | theguardian.com
Showing the flag
Ever since Russian armed forces invaded and annexed the Ukrainian province of Crimea last month, the U.S. government has struggled to find an appropriate response. Trade sanctions and visa freezes on Russian government officials could punish Russia for what it's done in Crimea. But what could the U.S. do to deter further aggression?
This week, it appears the Obama administration hit upon its solution. It took the USS Donald Cook and sent it to Russia. Armed with new Standard Missile-3 IB weaponry from Raytheon (NYSE: RTN ) , the Cook boasts a robust version of Lockheed Martin's (NYSE: LMT ) Aegis ballistic missile defense system capable of shooting down supersonic, high-trajectory missiles such as Russia uses to carry its nuclear warheads. The warship was modified for ballistic missile defense (BMD) duty as part of a $22 billion project to build shipborne and land-based missile defense stations to protect Europe from Iranian long-range missiles. But just as President Putin predicted, it appears to have use in countering Russian threats as well.
Departing its new base in Spain, the Cook is now en route to the Black Sea, where it will "show the flag" off the Ukrainian and Russian coasts -- a concrete demonstration to President Putin of how aggression in Crimea could bring about the very thing he fears: U.S. ballistic missile defenses set up right next to the Russian border.
What this move does show us, though, is that the $22 billion ballistic missile defense system has wider application than it was initially planned for. It can help to contain the threat of a future Iranian nuclear missile and it can help to disarm Russia's nuclear arsenal as well.....snip~
America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters. President Putin Presumably Not Pleased.
Our ship arrived there yesterday. Now it will sit off the Coast of the Ukraine. Think we have Putin's attention now? What say ye?
I hadn't envisioned a time in the near future when Russia might use it's nuclear forces but, this bold move by the US might make it come sooner than expected.
Dangerous indeed.
Putin is a genius.
But it is a pretty nice boat. I hope he doesn't sink it.
Mornin' WCH. :2wave: Well at least Biden will have some cover since he is going over there on the 22nd. Team O warned Russia not to invade while Biden is there.
Showing the flag
Ever since Russian armed forces invaded and annexed the Ukrainian province of Crimea last month, the U.S. government has struggled to find an appropriate response. Trade sanctions and visa freezes on Russian government officials could punish Russia for what it's done in Crimea. But what could the U.S. do to deter further aggression?
This week, it appears the Obama administration hit upon its solution. It took the USS Donald Cook and sent it to Russia. Armed with new Standard Missile-3 IB weaponry from Raytheon (NYSE: RTN ) , the Cook boasts a robust version of Lockheed Martin's (NYSE: LMT ) Aegis ballistic missile defense system capable of shooting down supersonic, high-trajectory missiles such as Russia uses to carry its nuclear warheads. The warship was modified for ballistic missile defense (BMD) duty as part of a $22 billion project to build shipborne and land-based missile defense stations to protect Europe from Iranian long-range missiles. But just as President Putin predicted, it appears to have use in countering Russian threats as well.
Departing its new base in Spain, the Cook is now en route to the Black Sea, where it will "show the flag" off the Ukrainian and Russian coasts -- a concrete demonstration to President Putin of how aggression in Crimea could bring about the very thing he fears: U.S. ballistic missile defenses set up right next to the Russian border.
What this move does show us, though, is that the $22 billion ballistic missile defense system has wider application than it was initially planned for. It can help to contain the threat of a future Iranian nuclear missile and it can help to disarm Russia's nuclear arsenal as well.....snip~
America Sends Missile-Destroying Warship Into Russian Waters. President Putin Presumably Not Pleased.
Our ship arrived there yesterday. Now it will sit off the Coast of the Ukraine. Think we have Putin's attention now? What say ye?
I don't recall where in Russia's actions against Ukraine that having a missile shield would have helped.
I think that the Russians have some pretty sophisticated equipment and probably one silent sub just sitting quietly to defend against just such a weapon --
Just remember the US and some NATO forces have already captured the acoustic signatures of Russian subs. Who's to say there aren't NATO hunter killer submarines there as well?
Is there something on that IC? :2wave: Maybe older subs.....not anything new. Which was one of our concerns.
Is there something on that IC? :2wave: Maybe older subs.....not anything new. Which was one of our concerns.
Well, I guess it would have his attention if Putin said, "Oh snap!! I was going to fire off a few nuclear missiles. Now I can't." I doubt it made any difference to him actually. Just a show of support, and he already knew that.
Heh. What a good excuse for Biden to just stay there. Could be a new home for him. Maybe we should send Carter too.
Mornin' HB.Well you know Joe.....he is going over there to give some re-assurance to the Ukrainian leaders. I don't think he will be going around any areas that predominantly Pro Russian.
I figure if......then Joe will fire off a warning shot or two with a shotgun. :mrgreen:
This has to be the most serious message sent to Putin yet.
Just wish we Europeans were more united with the States on this. I really hope there are more than just the one French warship out there with the Americans.
Yeah. Maybe Joe can leave the old two-shoot behind so we can say we're providing armaments. It'll be interesting to see if the Cook stays beyond the limitations imposed by the Montreux Convention. The frigate we sent for Sochi did, but that was because the commander ran the damn thing aground. He's been relieved.
They will definitely need it IC......which not only the Russians ships which isn't counting the 51 vessels they captured from the Ukrainians.
In its invasion and annexation of Crimea, Russia has seized 51 vessels belonging to the Ukrainian navy, according to information compiled by Dmitry Tymchuk, director of the Center of Military and Political Research in Kyiv.
Among the Ukrainian vessels reportedly captured by the Russians are submarine Zaporizhia, management ship Slavutych, landing ship Konstantin Olshansky, landing ship Kirovohrad, minesweeper Chernihiv and minesweeper Cherkasy.
The Cherkasy was the last of the ships to have been overtaken following weeks of threats and ultimatums to surrender. It was finally chased down and overtaken by the Russian navy on March 25 after failing to slip past a blockade of two ships intentionally sunk by the Russians to trap it and other vessels in a narrow gulf, keeping them from escaping into the Black Sea.....snip~
In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea
“Given the fact that the deployment of the elements of US missile defence system in the inland territories of US European allies, including Romania, will take a long time, the Americans decided to increase the intensity of sending its guided-missile naval ships to the Black Sea,” the Russian Defense Ministry said.
“US naval ships have been rotating in the Black Sea area on a regular basis since February 2014. One US warship which leaves the Black Sea is replaced by another vessel or even several ships. It is quite possible that the same practice will be applied to Aegis ships,” the Russian Defense Ministry said.
Too bad that ship cant sponsor any "independence referendums" in the Russian Federation.Our ship arrived there yesterday. Now it will sit off the Coast of the Ukraine. Think we have Putin's attention now? What say ye?
Most had not sailed in years and the submarine was about 35 years old. The Ukrainian submariners are probably grateful the Russians siezed it- that way they dont have to risk their lives diving in it anymore.In its invasion and annexation of Crimea, Russia has seized 51 vessels belonging to the Ukrainian navy, according to information compiled by Dmitry Tymchuk, director of the Center of Military and Political Research in Kyiv.
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