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America Is Waking Up to Nightmare of Obamacare

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Americans who are fed up with Obamacare won a victory yesterday. The House voted to defund Obamacare while still funding the federal government to avoid a “devastating” shutdown. (I shall not digress, but it’s beyond distressing to hear liberals try to convince Americans that any government slowdown is comparable to “terrorism.”)

Now the battle goes to the Senate, and we’ll find out if Harry Reid is so committed to the horrendous “Un-affordable Care Act” that he’ll be the one to shut down the government to fund the unworkable Obamacare.

Let’s be clear. Republicans in Congress aren't advocating a government shutdown. That’s why they voted in the House to fully fund our bureaucracy while defunding Obamacare. The conservatives in Congress are listening to the majority of Americans who do not want Obamacare.

Following the will of the people is apparently a novel idea in D.C. these days. Just ask Senator Ted Cruz and his liberty-loving posse on Capitol Hill who have led the charge to defund Obama’s train wreck.

Those of us who hang in there supporting a major political party with our energy, time, and contributions would like to believe that that party would praise principled conservatives like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee for following through on campaign promises. We’d like to believe that the GOP establishment would applaud the way these bold leaders have rallied the grassroots to their cause. But, no, such praise would require a commensurate level of guts and leadership, and the permanent political class in D.C. is nothing if not gutless and rudderless.

We’re now, once again, subjected to the “anonymous sources” backstabbing game. The Capitol Hill cowards are rushing to anonymously denounce Senator Cruz to any reporter with a pad and pen.

Welcome to our world, Ted. The same people have been denouncing conservatives like me for years (right after they ask for help fundraising for themselves or endorsing the latest candidate they’ve suckered into paying their exorbitant consulting fees). We can compare shiv marks next time we meet, my friend.

If the Senate doesn’t get behind Ted Cruz’s efforts to defund Obamacare, it won’t be because of any failure on Ted’s part. It’ll be because there weren’t enough principled leaders to stand with him, and that would be a tragic loss, not for Ted, but for America.

More and more Americans are waking up to the nightmare of Obamacare as its rollout continues. Hardworking families are losing their employer-provided health care coverage. Businesses are cutting back their employees’ hours to skirt Obamacare’s mandates. Americans barely scrapping by are discovering that Obamacare has made health care completely unaffordable. Those who aren’t part of a protected special interest group have been left in the cold.

When you’re living on a fixed income, having to pay hundreds of dollars more each month for health care will cut into your ability to pay for basic necessities like food, electricity, or gas (which has increased 90% under Obama). Open your eyes, America. When the full reality of Obamacare strikes home, we’ll thank God that principled leaders like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee took a stand to stop it in its tracks.

But the permanent political class is handwringing and howling that if there’s a government shutdown the media will blame Republicans for it. Here’s a little newsflash, GOP establishment: Whenever anything bad happens, the media blames Republicans for it. That’s not an excuse to roll over and play dead. It’s a call to follow the advice I give my daughters: Woman up, stand your ground, and fight like a girl!

I want no pity. I need no empathy. But use me as a barometer. Over the years, the leftwing media has falsely and irrationally accused me of everything from faking a pregnancy to abetting murder. They lie. Deal with it.

Republicans in Congress support funding the government. If the Democrats block these funding measures, a government shutdown is on them. In the meantime, stop the ridiculous hysterics. Heck, about the most significant thing that happened during the last government shutdown was Clinton hooked up with Monica.

As I said in my speech at CPAC this year, it’s time for the Senate to put itself on Cruz Control.

Ignore the peanut gallery pundits. They’ve written my political obituary so many times, I’m practically Lazarus. Now they’re trying to destroy Ted Cruz. Good luck with that, you weasels. Texans are just as tough as Alaskans. Smaller, but just as tough.

But here’s the important thing that none of these establishment backstabbers understand. It’s not the messenger that matters. It’s the message. You can try to take out someone like Ted Cruz, but that won’t stop the message from catching fire. The message is liberty, and it’s been resounding ever since a band of patriots dumped tea in Boston harbor.

The message only grows stronger. The grassroots is bigger than any one person. We the People will rise up, and we will make our voices heard. Right now, Ted Cruz is speaking for us in this Obamacare fight. God bless him for it.

Hang in there, Ted and Mike. You have millions of supporters among ordinary hardworking Americans. We support you because you don’t shy away from the fray. May your colleagues in the Senate gain the wisdom to support your excellent efforts so that you can see that the view is better from inside the bus than under it.

Oh, and a little reminder to Republican senators up for re-election in 2014: Moose season ends soon, allowing more time on one’s hands. So, we’ll be watching your votes very carefully this week.

by Sarah Palin 21 Sep 2013

you can like her or hate her I really don't care, but for once liberals do something different do something that will require thought and reasoning try to discredit the message instead attacking the messenger. if all you do is resort to attacking the messenger proves you cant discredit the message
 
Only the Far Right nutjobs use "Obamacare" as a rallying cry. THe rest of us are either indifferent or think the plan isn't half bad.
 
Only the Far Right nutjobs use "Obamacare" as a rallying cry. THe rest of us are either indifferent or think the plan isn't half bad.

Generalizations such as these usually prove to be false. And this one does also.

I am far from being 'far right', and there was only one point in the ACA that was partially beneficial. The rest of it was a boon to the insurance industry.
 
Is this article supposed to be about Obamacare or about Sarah Palin?
 
you can like her or hate her I really don't care, but for once liberals do something different do something that will require thought and reasoning try to discredit the message instead attacking the messenger. if all you do is resort to attacking the messenger proves you cant discredit the message

Obamacare is not going to get defunded. IMO, even if such legislation did pass? The President can simply issue an executive order to get it done. One of the purposes of an executive order is to facilitate legislation. Issuing an EO to fund it would certainly fall under that category.

The management of the rollout of Obamacare has got to be the worst example of transparency we've ever seen. Haha! And that from an administration that promised transparency.

Do you really think rates aren't known yet? What is so magic about October 1st? Why are we all having to wait until then to see how we'll be effected? I get it that the real reason is to give all companies an equal footing in the rush for coverage and change. But isn't our government supposed to serve the people?

IMO, Republicans would have been better served had they backed off their anti-Obamacare stance and adopted a wait-and-see attitude with their constituents. They stand a really good chance of looking irrelevant when it rolls out and the sky doesn't fall.
 
Only the Far Right nutjobs use "Obamacare" as a rallying cry. THe rest of us are either indifferent or think the plan isn't half bad.

The Logical Fallacies: False Dilemma

Pretty much all of what you said is untrue. You don't have to be a right wing anything to dislike Obamacare. Many people feel that for the first time the Federal government is forcing them to buy a product. John Roberts didn't see it that way, but the man on the street often does. You're right that some people are indifferent or think the plan is ok, but you can't subtract the right wing and say that the balance of the population has only two positions. Polling says that the majority of the population dislike Obamacare on principle and practice. When the law is fully implemented, you will see thousands of horror stories about how healthcare is in a state of decline, facilities are struggling, healthcare workers are being laid off, doctors are no longer seeing patients and students are avoiding the medical profession for more lucrative pursuits.
 
Obamacare is not going to get defunded. IMO, even if such legislation did pass? The President can simply issue an executive order to get it done. One of the purposes of an executive order is to facilitate legislation. Issuing an EO to fund it would certainly fall under that category.

The management of the rollout of Obamacare has got to be the worst example of transparency we've ever seen. Haha! And that from an administration that promised transparency.

Do you really think rates aren't known yet? What is so magic about October 1st? Why are we all having to wait until then to see how we'll be effected? I get it that the real reason is to give all companies an equal footing in the rush for coverage and change. But isn't our government supposed to serve the people?

IMO, Republicans would have been better served had they backed off their anti-Obamacare stance and adopted a wait-and-see attitude with their constituents. They stand a really good chance of looking irrelevant when it rolls out and the sky doesn't fall.

You are right that the house appropriation bill won't make it out of congress and that Obamacare won't be defunded. Obama would never sign off on his signature piece of legislation in any event. It's a bad piece of legislation and I believe that eventually the people who are responsible will be forced to pay the price. The wild card in this is wether the house Republicans really have the backbone to take a stand and pass a final continuing resolution which keeps government open and doesn't pay for the bill after it goes to conference. My belief is that they will fold in order to placate the Senate and this will all be for nothing but appearances.
 
Obamacare is not going to get defunded. IMO, even if such legislation did pass? The President can simply issue an executive order to get it done. One of the purposes of an executive order is to facilitate legislation. Issuing an EO to fund it would certainly fall under that category.

The management of the rollout of Obamacare has got to be the worst example of transparency we've ever seen. Haha! And that from an administration that promised transparency.

Do you really think rates aren't known yet? What is so magic about October 1st? Why are we all having to wait until then to see how we'll be effected? I get it that the real reason is to give all companies an equal footing in the rush for coverage and change. But isn't our government supposed to serve the people?

IMO, Republicans would have been better served had they backed off their anti-Obamacare stance and adopted a wait-and-see attitude with their constituents. They stand a really good chance of looking irrelevant when it rolls out and the sky doesn't fall.

It is perfectly clear what the negative effects of Obama care will be we are already seeing some of it. it doesn't take a reasonable man to jump into a lake to find out that lake water is wet
It will be to late for waiting for after implementation to then decide it doesn't work and the cost and negative results are not worth it. name one social program that has been reversed after implementation. If Obama care is allowed go forward to be implemented that is it we are stuck with it no matter how bad it is or what it cost in tax money and jobs there is no turning back
 
Only the Far Right nutjobs use "Obamacare" as a rallying cry. THe rest of us are either indifferent or think the plan isn't half bad.

Pick a poll it doesn't matter they all say the same thing majority of America hates Obama care


Rasmussen Reports* 9/14 - 9/15 1000 LV 43 53 Against/Oppose +10
ABC News/Wash Post 9/12 - 9/15 1004 A 42 52 Against/Oppose +10
CNN/Opinion Research* 9/6 - 9/8 1022 A 39 57 Against/Oppose +18
FOX News* 9/6 - 9/8 900 RV 35 54 Against/Oppose +19
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 9/5 - 9/8 1000 A 31 44 Against/Oppose +13
USA Today/Pew Research 9/4 - 9/8 1506 A 42 53 Against/Oppose +11

It doesn't look like "The rest of us are either indifferent or think the plan isn't half bad" unless you want to say 55% of the public are Far Right nutjobs
 
Generalizations such as these usually prove to be false. And this one does also.

I am far from being 'far right', and there was only one point in the ACA that was partially beneficial. The rest of it was a boon to the insurance industry.
Is Obamacare your rallying cry, something you complain about all the time, your cause celebre, a reason to shut down the government?
 
Pick a poll it doesn't matter they all say the same thing majority of America hates Obama care


Rasmussen Reports* 9/14 - 9/15 1000 LV 43 53 Against/Oppose +10
ABC News/Wash Post 9/12 - 9/15 1004 A 42 52 Against/Oppose +10
CNN/Opinion Research* 9/6 - 9/8 1022 A 39 57 Against/Oppose +18
FOX News* 9/6 - 9/8 900 RV 35 54 Against/Oppose +19
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 9/5 - 9/8 1000 A 31 44 Against/Oppose +13
USA Today/Pew Research 9/4 - 9/8 1506 A 42 53 Against/Oppose +11

It doesn't look like "The rest of us are either indifferent or think the plan isn't half bad" unless you want to say 55% of the public are Far Right nutjobs
Personally, I'd prefer single payer, but, I know this--if the GOP shut the government down over it, they'll lose.
 
Is Obamacare your rallying cry, something you complain about all the time, your cause celebre, a reason to shut down the government?

Nope. Currently, it is on my **** list due to the ridiculous and excessive administrative requirements that will successfully kill some businesses. Besides the monetary aspect to the businesses that survive it.
 
The Logical Fallacies: False Dilemma

Pretty much all of what you said is untrue. You don't have to be a right wing anything to dislike Obamacare. Many people feel that for the first time the Federal government is forcing them to buy a product. John Roberts didn't see it that way, but the man on the street often does. You're right that some people are indifferent or think the plan is ok, but you can't subtract the right wing and say that the balance of the population has only two positions. Polling says that the majority of the population dislike Obamacare on principle and practice. When the law is fully implemented, you will see thousands of horror stories about how healthcare is in a state of decline, facilities are struggling, healthcare workers are being laid off, doctors are no longer seeing patients and students are avoiding the medical profession for more lucrative pursuits.

Obamacare hollering is equivalent to Benghazi--no one cares as much as the Right Wing loons. You watch. THis is lose lose for the gewbs.
 
Obamacare hollering is equivalent to Benghazi--no one cares as much as the Right Wing loons. You watch. THis is lose lose for the gewbs.

why are you still spewing your crap "no one cares as much as the Right Wing loons" when I just proved to you different? all it does is make you an ideologue sycophant fool that ignores all facts to push an agenda
 
Obamacare hollering is equivalent to Benghazi--no one cares as much as the Right Wing loons. You watch. THis is lose lose for the gewbs.

Tell it to Ambassador Stevens family.
 
why are you still spewing your crap "no one cares as much as the Right Wing loons" when I just proved to you different? all it does is make you an ideologue sycophant fool that ignores all facts to push an agenda

Because no one cares as much as Right Wing Loons. Look, just because it's unpopular doesn't mean a majority of the people want to stop the world on its axis over it. Sheesh.

he Affordable Care Act doesn’t poll well. In a Kaiser Family Foundation poll out Wednesday, only 37 percent reported a “generally favorable” opinion of the law, compared with 42 percent with an unfavorable opinion. The same results apply with somewhat different questions asked; for example, pluralities said that the law will make both them and the nation “worse off.”

Yet defunding Obamacare, the big Republican cause of the moment, is even more unpopular. By 57 percent to 36 percent, poll respondents did not approve of “cutting off funding to implement” the ACA. This fits perfectly with a point that my colleague Greg Sargent of The Washington Post has made for some time: Many who don’t like Obamacare also don’t like the Republican plan to simply repeal it. We can now add defunding to that list.

Read more here: Split opinions on Obamacare | Other Views | NewsObserver.com
 
Are you Hillary?

I'm realist. ANd, seeing the Right Wing getting their nose all bent out of shape over Ambassador Stevens is a freaking joke. No one on the Right cared when thousands died for George Bush's stupid war, but now all of a sudden every Wingnut in the country is crying crocodile tears over four dead people in Libya.
 
Because no one cares as much as Right Wing Loons. Look, just because it's unpopular doesn't mean a majority of the people want to stop the world on its axis over it. Sheesh.

of coarse people will like the candy that Obama care provides but when they are informed of the cost in taxes health care cost and jobs they then don't want the candy anymore

and the last Rasmussen poll shows 51% prefer a government shut down over the funding of Obama care
 
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I'm realist. ANd, seeing the Right Wing getting their nose all bent out of shape over Ambassador Stevens is a freaking joke. No one on the Right cared when thousands died for George Bush's stupid war, but now all of a sudden every Wingnut in the country is crying crocodile tears over four dead people in Libya.

Sorry, I thought you were Hillary.

 
When the law is fully implemented, you will see thousands of horror stories about how healthcare is in a state of decline, facilities are struggling, healthcare workers are being laid off, doctors are no longer seeing patients and students are avoiding the medical profession for more lucrative pursuits.

That'll be quite a turnaround, since right now we're seeing exactly the opposite.

In the last 12 months we've seen:
 
Life's great in the left wing blogosphere.

The National Business Group on Health, the Altarum Institute, the Association of American Medical Colleges, and the National Resident Matching Program are what you consider to be "the left wing blogosphere"?

Perhaps you should get out more. Keeping up on what's actually happening in the world will help, too.
 
The National Business Group on Health, the Altarum Institute, the Association of American Medical Colleges, and the National Resident Matching Program are what you consider to be "the left wing blogosphere"?

Perhaps you should get out more. Keeping up on what's actually happening in the world will help, too.

I'm out plenty. The government is spending millions on their spin machine making lots of what you read unreliable finding a web site that agrees with you is not research.
 
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