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America Is Acting Like a Failed State

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America Is Acting Like a Failed State

The Trump administration has failed to perform the most basic function of a state: to accurately assess a threat to the country.


From a "Democrat hoax" to a declared "national emergency". Total incompetence.


A damning indictment of President Donald Trump and his enabling GOP political party. They all need to go away come November.

Related: Trump Is Peddling Dangerous Disinformation on Coronavirus
 
In so many ways the US is a failed state. That is, it has failed the people, the same people referenced in the US Constitution.

For those feeding at the federal trough, it is an immensely successful state. War mongers and profiteers are doing fabulously, thank you. Big Government thrives.
 



59 US deaths from 2,759 cases. Its very transmittable, its not extremely fatal the way the Spanish Flu was. I think the panic and fear have both been over hyped.

To now play up the angle they have been for months, it just looks like political angling. But the media would never do that, would they?
 
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Ignore it. It's all a Democrat/media hoax.
 

Is anyone surprised when a "burn it to the ground" guy gets elected president that the place is burning to the ground?


Seriously?
 
The thing is that more people are dying because it is not contained. In order to curb the amount of deaths, we must be proactive. If we go about our normal lives as if it is over hyped, then the 59 deaths will turn into thousands
 

Thats funny. I was waiting for the next move the goalposts post. Trumpettes have been making this same argument since it was 15 cases and "going to 0" as far as the "anointed one", the Orangutan in the Oval is concerned. Trumpettes will be making this same argument as the tally goes up both for total with the virus and total mortality and will keep making it even if we pass 10,000 dead. CREDIBILITY SHOT to heck because the anointed one has no credibility and following along with your noses stuffed up his butt holes means Trumpettes have no credibility either.

If we are very lucky the actions taken and the decisions made by State and Local government officials and business leaders will stunt the bell curve from one that has a steep rise and a steep fall to one with a shallow rise and a shallow fall. I fear that the Federal government has been too slow to act and has acted incompetently when it has acted to the point now where we are drawing to an inside straight hoping to avoid Italy's fate. I would like to think we could have done better. But given the Orangutan in the Oval and his barrel-o-monkeys administration I GUESS NOT!
 
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I don't remember if it was the NBA or the NCAA who announced it was closing its season, but they did more to stop the spread of the virus than anyone.

You hear that and you know it's serious.
 

There hasn’t been any testing, there aren’t enough test kits. The unknown is creating wide spread panic. Our town just announce a mother in her 50’s passed away from COVID-19 on Thursday but didnt know until Saturday she was infected. She has school aged children. This will become a major issue because no one knows if their infected due to the lack of tests.

America First? We don’t have test kits.
 
Actually its a damning indictment of what many on the right complain about and the left defend.... overregulation.

The delay in the tests is being caused by gov red tape and the call is to lower the approval protocols to get them to market faster. Big government is in the way of the free market, something the left encourages.


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The thing is that more people are dying because it is not contained. In order to curb the amount of deaths, we must be proactive. If we go about our normal lives as if it is over hyped, then the 59 deaths will turn into thousands

Too late.

Trump = proactive counterpuncher
 
What needs to happen is that the Federal government needs to put this on a war footing. Like we are at war. Because we are.

The companies that make medical supplies - disinfectant wipes, masks, gowns, eye shields, latex gloves, respirators, test kits etc. need to ramp up production. They should be producing 24/7.

The military should be gearing up to help and preparing mobile casualty units for hot spots. We need drive up locations in every neighborhood that can test. Labs need to be 24/7.

The airports are horrendous. Thousands of people crammed together because of travel constraints. More TSA, Border/Customs people need to be at the airports.

Everyone at the airports should be checked for a fever with a handheld laser temperature reader. This is not happening.

The logistics chain is failing. Food/drug stores around here are stripped clean of almost everything. wtf? We as a nation need to up our game immensely.
 

I can think of few things more idiotic than continuing to insist that it is a hoax even though the person who commanded you to insist it was a hoax is now calling it a national emergency.
 

We're all going to die!!!!

Because...

TRUMP!!!



:donkeyfla
 

No, this was mismanagement not over regulation.
 
True, however, we have great governors

A lot of this is falling to the governors to respond but they can't do what the President can (limit travel, lead a national response, etc.) so the President does have a role even if (according to him) he bears no responsibility.
 
No, this was mismanagement not over regulation.
What was mismanaged?
Its my understsnding that the new tests are tied up in regulatory red tape.

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So we should pack people into factories instead of schools? How many weeks will it take to hire and train all those workers? Should they work if they're sick, to meet production goals? Who watches their kids while at work if schools and daycares close to stop the spread? Is there enough raw materials to supply all these factories? So more miners and loggers and oil drillers need to be hired and trained as well - how does that work if we want to control the spread of this disease?

Same with airports - what do we do with febrile people? Immediately isolate them until they can be tested? What about all the other people they just stood in line next to? Who trains all the TSA personnel? That's a month's long process; can we wait 3 months to hire enough people (in one of the most competitive job markets in modern history) to implement these changes? Should TSA personnel be on the frontlines of combating this? Why not station drs. in every airport to do the testing?

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that the solutions you suggested bring up problems of their own. It's a complex situation.
 

Bull****. Trump has been president for 3 years. The buck stops there
 
A lot of this is falling to the governors to respond but they can't do what the President can (limit travel, lead a national response, etc.) so the President does have a role even if (according to him) he bears no responsibility.

Yep, the president is an asshole. But if not for the governors, things would be far worse
 

The **** it is, people didn't buy what they needed they bought in panic and overbought, drastically. IF we were to drastically up medical supply equipment, it should go to ERs first, hospitals and clinics second, medical home supply/care facilities next and last to retail. Prioritizing and eliminating panicky stupidity would be a better plan.
 
I can think of few things more idiotic than continuing to insist that it is a hoax even though the person who commanded you to insist it was a hoax is now calling it a national emergency.

Thank you for lying about what I was saying. I didn't say hoax. I said its being overhyped and its causing panic in people. That's a mistake.
 
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