AMA, other medical groups say Trump's could significantly affect system

[randel]

AMA, Other Medical Groups Say Trump's Order Could Significantly Affect System - ABC News


With multiple doctors and medical students affected by President Trump's executive order to restrict immigration and visas from seven Muslim-majority nations, physicians' groups are warning about the potential for long-term detrimental effects on the medical community.
The American Medical Association on Wednesday issued a statement expressing worry about how the executive order could adversely affect the U.S. health system overall, especially because international medical graduates are more likely to work in underserved areas.


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The New England Journal of Medicine published multiple opinion pieces on Wednesday from doctors and researchers concerned about how the executive order might alter how medical institutions pick doctors for residencies or fellowships and how the ban could stop some medical researchers in the U.S. from sharing their work abroad.
In one piece, authors from the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center argued that the ban could seriously affect rural or underserved communities. Many foreign physicians trained in the U.S. are able to stay in the country by agreeing to a J-1 waiver, which often leads to work in underserved rural or inner city areas, according to the authors.

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[Bodi]

AMA, Other Medical Groups Say Trump's Order Could Significantly Affect System - ABC News


With multiple doctors and medical students affected by President Trump's executive order to restrict immigration and visas from seven Muslim-majority nations, physicians' groups are warning about the potential for long-term detrimental effects on the medical community.
The American Medical Association on Wednesday issued a statement expressing worry about how the executive order could adversely affect the U.S. health system overall, especially because international medical graduates are more likely to work in underserved areas.


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The New England Journal of Medicine published multiple opinion pieces on Wednesday from doctors and researchers concerned about how the executive order might alter how medical institutions pick doctors for residencies or fellowships and how the ban could stop some medical researchers in the U.S. from sharing their work abroad.
In one piece, authors from the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center argued that the ban could seriously affect rural or underserved communities. Many foreign physicians trained in the U.S. are able to stay in the country by agreeing to a J-1 waiver, which often leads to work in underserved rural or inner city areas, according to the authors.

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Interesting point. We are seeing that this EO is have unintended consequences. Unfortunate.

 

[Captain Adverse]

Interesting point. We are seeing that this EO is have unintended consequences. Unfortunate.

What? There aren't enough highly trained and skilled AMERICAN native citizens who are also capable medical practitioners? :shock:

I don't care if this temporary ban affects foreign visiting physicians. If the effect of this immigration policy is so detrimental to American medical practices...perhaps we should take a good look at what WE are doing wrong HERE and fix the problem. :coffeepap:

 

[randel]

What? There aren't enough highly trained and skilled AMERICAN native citizens who are also capable medical practitioners? :shock:

I don't care if this temporary ban affects foreign visiting physicians. If the effect of this immigration policy is so detrimental to American medical practices...perhaps we should take a good look at what WE are doing wrong HERE and fix the problem. :coffeepap:

it doesnt bother you that this could have an affect on health care here? or in underserved areas?

 

[Captain Adverse]

it doesnt bother you that this could have an affect on health care here? or in underserved areas?

I'm sorry...was my post unclear?

Let's see it again:

What? There aren't enough highly trained and skilled AMERICAN native citizens who are also capable medical practitioners? :shock:

I don't care if this temporary ban affects foreign visiting physicians. If the effect of this immigration policy is so detrimental to American medical practices...perhaps we should take a good look at what WE are doing wrong HERE and fix the problem. :coffeepap:

Hmmm, seems clear to me.

If we are are so dependent on foreign trained medical practitioners to maintain decent healthcare here in the USA, then IMO that is a problem that can and should be solved by nurturing and developing our own home-grown medical service population.

 

[randel]

I'm sorry...was my post unclear?

Let's see it again:



Hmmm, seems clear to me.

If we are are so dependent on foreign trained medical practitioners to maintain decent healthcare here in the USA, then IMO that is a problem that can and should be solved by nurturing and developing our own home-grown medical service population.

so, how do you propose to do that? in the meantime, until you formulate your plan, what do we do?

 

[Greenbeard]

If we are are so dependent on foreign trained medical practitioners to maintain decent healthcare here in the USA, then IMO that is a problem that can and should be solved by nurturing and developing our own home-grown medical service population.

...that isn't a problem. Well, unless nativism closes the border to medical professionals. Oh!

 

[Greenbeard]

Uh oh!

Patients treated by foreign-educated doctors are less likely to die, study finds

Elderly hospitalized patients treated by doctors who graduated from non-US medical schools are slightly less likely to die within 30 days than those treated by graduates of US medical schools, according to a study published Thursday.

The study arrives amid the furor over President Trump’s 90-day ban on people from seven Muslim-majority countries entering the United States — an order that prompted concerns that it would block some foreign medical students from training and practicing here. About 1 in 4 US physicians were born abroad, and among internists, the primary care doctors who were the focus of the study, 44 percent graduated from foreign medical schools.

One possible reason for the lower mortality among patients of foreign graduates is that requirements for winning a hospital residency, which is required to practice in the United States, are more rigorous for non-US graduates. “That might select for physicians who are, on average, more knowledgeable and skilled,” Tsugawa said. Another possible explanation is that foreign graduates have, in the past, edged US graduates on standardized test scores, though it is not clear if that’s still the case.

More likely: Most foreign graduates do two residencies, one in their home country and one in the United States, an “intensive and prolonged training” that might make them better doctors, the researchers wrote.

Quick, how do we solve this problem?