All things being equal which is the most ideal way for a child to be raised (1 Viewer)

[Navy Pride]

I have been having a debate with several liberals and gays about which is the best way for a child to be raised.......I am not saying that gays or a single parent can not be raised by gays or a single parent successfully but i am saying all things being equal the best chance for a child to succeed in life is being raised by a mother and father......

What do you thinK?

The word in the question should be which.....I wonder if a mod can change they spelling..........thanks

 

[Gardener]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

I have been having a debate with several liberals and gays about which is the best way for a child to be raised.......I am not saying that gays or a single parent can not be raised by gays or a single parent successfully but i am saying all things being equal the best chance for a child to succeed in life is being raised by a mother and father......

What do you thinK/

Best way for a child to be raised is by two people who love them and nurture then.

 

[DeeJayH]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

"all things being equal" being the operative phrase
of course it is the mother/father traditional roles that are best for the child(ren)
beyond that i see a single parent, with family support, being best
than a gay couple
than a gay person
the last two as a last resort though

 

[Stinger]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

Best way for a child to be raised is by two people who love them and nurture then.

Which isn't necessary a mother or a father?

 

[Navy Pride]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

"all things being equal" being the operative phrase
of course it is the mother/father traditional roles that are best for the child(ren)
beyond that i see a single parent, with family support, being best
than a gay couple
than a gay person
the last two as a last resort though

I totally agree.....I am thinking about what is best for the child, not for a gay couple or a single parent..........If anyone looked at it from and objective and not a biased viewpoint they would see it the same way........

The key worda is Ideal situation.....

 

[Indy]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

Okay, ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, I think that

1. Mother Father
2. Gay Couple
3. Single Parent

Trying to put #3 before #2 is just stupid. 2 parents are always better than 1. True having the "normal" household may be easier for the child during highschool (that's probably when the kids would pick on them the most) but during college they'd probably think that its pretty cool. Just my two cents though.

Hey NP, great question! And thanks for making the wording be fair.

 

[Thinker]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

I have been having a debate with several liberals and gays about which is the best way for a child to be raised.......I am not saying that gays or a single parent can not be raised by gays or a single parent successfully but i am saying all things being equal the best chance for a child to succeed in life is being raised by a mother and father......

What do you thinK?

The word in the question should be which.....I wonder if a mod can change they spelling..........thanks

It's clear that you are trying to justify your position by appealing to popular
support by conducting a meaningless poll. I say your poll is meaningless
because you have not given a complete list of possibilities. For example, you
have asked which is best without offering an "they're all equal" option.

It is all moot anyway. You have been failing in the debate because you
cannot provide any evidence, and simply rely on "common sense". As has
been shown, popular opinion or "common sense" is very often wrong.

 

[Indy]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

It's clear that you are trying to justify your position by appealing to popular
support by conducting a meaningless poll. I say your poll is meaningless
because you have not given a complete list of possibilities. For example, you
have asked which is best without offering an "they're all equal" option.

It is all moot anyway. You have been failing in the debate because you
cannot provide any evidence, and simply rely on "common sense". As has
been shown, popular opinion or "common sense" is very often wrong.

Hey, now that's not fair. This poll was worded fairly and no, sometimes you need to look at what's best and in what order. There doens't need to be a cop out "there all equal" option. He hasn't mentioned "common sense" (a meaningless phrase anyways) once in this thread that I recall so chill out.

OMG! I just defended NavyPride! THE APOCALYPSE IS COMING!!!

 

[Thinker]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

Hey, now that's not fair. This poll was worded fairly and no, sometimes you need to look at what's best and in what order. There doens't need to be a cop out "there all equal" option.

Your calling my belief a "cop out" is simply you imposing your world-view on me.

Please tell me how I can honestly answer the poll and select a "best" when I
believe, based on actual evidence, that 2 male parents, 2 female parents, or one
of each sex are equally good?

The only ordering I can give is that 2 parents are better than 1, but even
that opion is denied. The poll is most certainly unfair.

 

[Marilyn Monroe]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

Okay, ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, I think that

1. Mother Father
2. Gay Couple
3. Single Parent

Trying to put #3 before #2 is just stupid. 2 parents are always better than 1. True having the "normal" household may be easier for the child during highschool (that's probably when the kids would pick on them the most) but during college they'd probably think that its pretty cool. Just my two cents though.

Hey NP, great question! And thanks for making the wording be fair.

I think it's more important to have one mother than two parents especially if they are both men.

I'd say mother/father

Mother

Father

Adopted heterosexual parents

Adopted gay parents

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

What the hell do you mean the ideal situation? This thread reaks of bigotry. In fact the evidence shows that gay couples make better parents because they are often more financially secure and usually only have children when are ready.

Heres a study by Brad Sears, an executive director of the UCLA School of Law's Williams Project on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy.
http://www.rossde.com/editorials/childrenofgays.html

The main point is that children raised by gays dont suffer in social development, nor are more likely to be gay (which is what im sure this is all about.)

 

[Sir_Alec]

Not enough choices in the poll to make my decision. Two parents is ideal, but a single parent can do better than two. Same goes for any parent really, just as long as they are loving and teaching their child: So, really any of the above can be an ideal parent. Sex should have nothing to do with it.

 

[Gardener]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

Which isn't necessary a mother or a father?

Fast on the uptake ye be.

 

[Synch]

Assuming all other factors are equal, I would say a mother and father, because that is what the majority of society is represented by, and that reflects in the media. The child may be confused at an early due and feel isolated.

 

[Kandahar]

A very interesting thread, Navy Pride. Kudos. But unfortunately I can't answer the poll question, because I truly believe that the gender or number of parents makes almost no difference.

The way in which a child is raised has surprisingly little impact on their personality. Nature is more important than nurture, and most of the nurture is done by peers rather than parents.

 

[Navy Pride]

A very interesting thread, Navy Pride. Kudos. But unfortunately I can't answer the poll question, because I truly believe that the gender or number of parents makes almost no difference.

The way in which a child is raised has surprisingly little impact on their personality. Nature is more important than nurture, and most of the nurture is done by peers rather than parents.

Thank you Kandahar But I respectuflly disagree.....I think both parent bring something into the equation that gay parents or a single parent can not bring..........Like I said that does not say that they can not raise a child successfully it is just not the best way to raise a child and judging by the poll figures so far I think that bears it out.....

 

[Billo_Really]

The most ideal way is by teaching them the ability to reason.

 

[Navy Pride]

The most ideal way is by teaching them the ability to reason.

Billo my friend, that is a cop out...

 

[DeeJayH]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

What the hell do you mean the ideal situation? This thread reaks of bigotry. In fact the evidence shows that gay couples make better parents because they are often more financially secure and usually only have children when are ready.

Heres a study by Brad Sears, an executive director of the UCLA School of Law's Williams Project on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy.
http://www.rossde.com/editorials/childrenofgays.html

The main point is that children raised by gays dont suffer in social development, nor are more likely to be gay (which is what im sure this is all about.)

I took it to mean that none of the examples were abusive, neglectful SOBs
just your basic decent parental units
be they heterosexual couples, homosexual couples or single parents be they straight or gay
can you answer the poll NOW?
but i imagine it is more fun for you to abuse Navy than answer the poll/issue raised

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by Navy Pride:
Billo my friend, that is a cop out...

I don't think so. If you can't teach them that, then there's no guarantee they will be able to understand what your trying to teach them. But if they have that, then the entire world is at their doorstep.

 

[DeeJayH]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

Heres a study by Brad Sears, an executive director of the UCLA School of Law's Williams Project on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy.
http://www.rossde.com/editorials/childrenofgays.html

The main point is that children raised by gays dont suffer in social development, nor are more likely to be gay (which is what im sure this is all about.)

where was this research done?
San Francisco?
Greenwich Village?
or middle america somewhere?

I ask because it seems pertinent, yet seems to be missing from the source

 

[DeeJayH]

I don't think so. If you can't teach them that, then there's no guarantee they will be able to understand what your trying to teach them. But if they have that, then the entire world is at their doorstep.

fine you want to play that cop out
try this
all the above examples teach their child(ren) what you stated above

NOW which option is best

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by DeeJayH:
fine you want to play that cop out
try this
all the above examples teach their child(ren) what you stated above

NOW which option is best

Watch how you talk to me!

Check the voting if you want answers...

 

[Navy Pride]

Re: All things being equal hich iis the most ideal way for a child to be raised

I took it to mean that none of the examples were abusive, neglectful SOBs
just your basic decent parental units
be they heterosexual couples, homosexual couples or single parents be they straight or gay
can you answer the poll NOW?
but i imagine it is more fun for you to abuse Navy than answer the poll/issue raised

They know the people that say a child is better to have a mother and a father so they just resort to the same old ploy of attacking the mesenger........Stand by Bigot and homophobe are next.....

 

[Navy Pride]

Watch how you talk to me!

Check the voting if you want answers...

Sorry about that....7-1 not to bad.........