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All of a sudden democrat love the Post Office

Logical1

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All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud.

I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????
 
All of a sudden democrat tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud.

I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????

Because their charter REQUIRES they serve you hicks out in the sticks as well. While the others make you come collect your package at their location. Duh.

I can hardly wait till they issue TRUE cost service, and all you rural dudes pay quadruple for shipping.
 
In the US, "democrat" is pluralized with an s. It's the same thing with "socialists" and "leftists." 'Ol Helix just wants to help.
 
All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud.

I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????

Yeah, I remember my endless tirades against the post office up til now.

Some day we're going to learn the inspiration for logical1's threads. That will be good for a laugh.
 
All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud.

I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????

Try getting FedEx to drop off a package at County Road B37 and County Road 42.

The fact that they either DON'T deliver out there, or are going to charge you an arm and a leg to do it would be the explanation for the difference in things.
 
All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud. I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????

What are you trying to fart on about now?

The problem is Trump trying to steal the election by telling his supporters that COVID is a hoax so they can safely vote in person, while attacking mail-in votes (the kind he himself casts) and deliberately knee-capping USPS to try to cause mail-in ballots to arrive too late to be counted in key states.
 
Because their charter REQUIRES they serve you hicks out in the sticks as well. While the others make you come collect your package at their location. Duh.

I can hardly wait till they issue TRUE cost service, and all you rural dudes pay quadruple for shipping.

Uh------------Fedx and UPS deliver out in the country.
 
In the US, "democrat" is pluralized with an s. It's the same thing with "socialists" and "leftists." 'Ol Helix just wants to help.

Ever heard of a typo.
 
All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud.

I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????

All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office



That's new? Post office workers love Democrats
Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year

Well, technology?

Also ridiculous pension system?
 
Uh------------Fedx and UPS deliver out in the country.

Nobody said they didn't.....but have you checked the price difference between delivery to an in town address and delivery to an address so remote it takes two mountain goats and a sherpa to get to. Lets just say they don't cost the same.

On the other hand, if you pay for priority delivery to that remote address through the USPS, they are required to get it to you regardless of how out of the way you may be.
 
What are you trying to fart on about now?

The problem is Trump trying to steal the election by telling his supporters that COVID is a hoax so they can safely vote in person, while attacking mail-in votes (the kind he himself casts) and deliberately knee-capping USPS to try to cause mail-in ballots to arrive too late to be counted in key states.

Well there is where you are wrong. The wonder china virus guru says everyone can go to the polls and vote. Time for you to get up to speed on current events.
 
I wonder if the cost failings of the PO can be laid at the door step of Fed B'crats. Too many underworked and over paid???
 
Well there is where you are wrong. The wonder china virus guru says everyone can go to the polls and vote. Time for you to get up to speed on current events.

This incoherent nonsense is not a response to what I explained to you.
 
All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud.

I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????

Show us EXACTLY when and where Democratic supporters were the ones who hated the Constitutionally-supported Post Office. Cite your sources.
 
Uh------------Fedx and UPS deliver out in the country.
FedEx won't deliver to my suburban house. Or at least wouldn't for years due only to it not being on Google maps.

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Democrats support all kinds of policies that help Republicans and Republican states, because of humanitarian principle. They support Medicaid expansion and minimum wage increases that help red states more. They support subsidized mail coverage of rural areas that help Republicans more.
 
FedEx won't deliver to my suburban house. Or at least wouldn't for years due only to it not being on Google maps.

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That is totally wrong. My townhome is in the suburbs, and I get deliveries from them all the time.
 
That is totally wrong. My townhome is in the suburbs, and I get deliveries from them all the time.

Comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it.

Rouge was plainly clear that they wouldn't deliver to him because he wasn't on Google Maps, which is absolutely FedEx company policy. That is what they use to route thier trucks. If your address is so new that it doesn't show up on Google Maps, they will actually dispatch the package to the USPS for final delivery. It has to do with the policy they have about routing trucks to only make right turns.
 
All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud.

I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????

Just did a quick rate check for Fedex envelope mailed from PHX to SAC? Guess what the rate was $11.00 was the lowest price.
I bet you think that is a great rate for a letter.

Did you know that "Both UPS and FedEx rely on the postal office for the back-end of their cheaper two- to seven-day delivery options, Smartpost for FedEx and Surepost for UPS. Amazon also uses the USPS and enlisted it for Sunday deliveries. ... The letter carrier takes it for the most expensive last leg of the delivery"

So much for your idea.
 
That is totally wrong. My townhome is in the suburbs, and I get deliveries from them all the time.
Just because they deliver to yours, doesn't mean they will deliver to absolutely everyone's. Fedex isn't required to deliver to your house, can refuse for any reason, including if your house/road is not on a map app. USPS can't and didn't. They have delivered to us from the time we moved in.

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Democrats support all kinds of policies that help Republicans and Republican states, because of humanitarian principle. They support Medicaid expansion and minimum wage increases that help red states more. They support subsidized mail coverage of rural areas that help Republicans more.

We also support stopping the coronavirus despite its disproportionately killing old people, who tend to vote Republican. It's the Republicans who want to let grandma die a horrible death.
 
All of a sudden democrats tell us the love the Post Office, because they are depending on the PO to assist them in their mail in voting fraud.

I have a question about your wonderful PO. Why are they losing Billions of dollars a year when Fed Ex and UPS are making Billions doing the same thing better, and MUCH FASTER???????????

How George Bush broke the Post Office

what's really dragging down the Postal Service is something else entirely.


Namely, the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006.

Passed by a Republican-led Congress and signed into law by President George W. Bush, the PAEA gave the Postal Service new accounting and funding rules for its retiree pension and health benefits. Up until 2006, the USPS funded those obligations on a pay-as-you-go-basis, pulling out of its pension fund and adding to it as retirees' costs came in. But the PAEA required the Postal Service to calculate all of its likely pension costs over the next 75 years, and then sock away enough money between 2007 and 2016 to cover most of them.

This is one of those ideas that sounds responsible on the surface but is actually pretty nuts.

Consider your average 30-year mortgage. What if you had to set aside a few hundred thousand dollars right now, enough to pay the whole thing, even if you were still going to make payments over 30 years? No one would ever take out a mortgage. That's the whole point: the costs only come in over time, and the income you use to pay them comes in over time as well. It works exactly the same for retiree pensions and benefit funds. Which is why, as economist Dean Baker pointed out to Congress, pretty much no one else does what the PAEA demanded of the Postal Service.

Meeting Congress' arbitrary mandate required putting away an extra $5.6 billion per year. "It is equivalent to imposing a tax of 8 percent on the Postal Service's revenue," Baker said. "There are few businesses that would be able to survive if they were suddenly required to pay an 8 percent tax from which their competitors were exempted."

Eventually, the burden became too great, and the USPS began defaulting on the PAEA payments in 2012. But the damage was done. The Postal Service lost $62.4 billion between 2007 and 2016, and its own Inspector General attributed $54.8 billion of that to prefunding retiree benefits. Without the PAEA, the Postal Service wouldn't be doing stellar. (Though you could plausibly blame many of its remaining struggles on the Great Recession.) But it probably would've spent at least part of the last decade making comfortable profits.
 
Late last week, Trump created a task force to audit the Postal Service. "The USPS is on an unsustainable financial path and must be restructured to prevent a taxpayer-funded bailout," the executive order stated. The task force is supposed to deliver recommendations within 120 days, and to look into "the expansion and pricing of the package delivery market and the USPS's role in competitive markets."

The order didn't mention Amazon by name. But many observers assume the online retail giant is the target of the inquiry — and for good reason. Trump has been on a tear recently, claiming the USPS gives Amazon discounted rates for delivering its packages, and gets fleeced in the process.

Amazon relies on around 230,000 USPS workers to deliver many of its packages. As my colleague Ryan Cooper explained, the Postal Service is definitely giving the company some sort of deal, though the details are secret. Defenders point out the Postal Service is forbidden by law from charging less than the cost of delivery, though it could still be charging below-market rates.

Yet that means the real victims of this arrangement are other private businesses. The Postal Service is basically helping Amazon under-price its competitors and secure monopoly market power. But for the USPS itself, e-commerce deliveries have actually been a recent source of revenue growth. While the Postal Service can and should get a better deal from Amazon, the one it's got is working out pretty well.
 
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