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Alexander Hamilton predicted Donald Trump

Oh stop...Donald cares about Donald. He does not care a rats behind about Iran or Saudi or anything else. Frankly I think he will not run in 2020 because he does not care about you either. If he had it to do over again he might have thought better about bouncing out of the JCPOA and then initiating toothless sanctions. Bouncing out of the JCPOA only helps him with some voters if he does in fact run again in 2020.

By Donald's own admission, the Saudi's are worth millions of $$ to him personally and they bailed Kushner out of his $600M Manhattan white elephant among other things.

All the House will really have to do from January on is provide the evidence for what Donald has himself admitted to. As many have stated, most of this stuff has been hiding in plain sight. The only pieces of the puzzle that are not in plain sight is the link in the Russia investigation between Roger Stone and Assange. Everything else has not hit the fan because fo the failure of the GOP sycophant controlled Congress and Senate would not perform any Oversight at all. That ends at least in the House in January.

As for the Comey firing. The result there is simply a consequence of Donald's massive ignorance and unscrupulousness. He did not have to say a darned thing about the Comey firing but just could not keep his mouth shut. As for Rosenstein, he is a Republican and I find it entirely reasonable that he would try to support the President early in his term of Presidency as opposed to denying his request out of hand.

Trump isn't going anywhere and he will run in 2020. This idea that the Dems have reams of evidence that will sink Trump, is delusional. The bloom will really be off the rose once Mueller comes out with his nothing burger. As for Rosenstein. he has demonstrated from the start that he is no Trump ally.
 
Trump isn't going anywhere and he will run in 2020. This idea that the Dems have reams of evidence that will sink Trump, is delusional. The bloom will really be off the rose once Mueller comes out with his nothing burger. As for Rosenstein. he has demonstrated from the start that he is no Trump ally.

Well I guess we will just have to see now won't we. Recent evidence does not help you. Independents moved 24% across from the GOP to Dems in the mid-terms. That is not sustainable for the Donald in a run at a second term.

Just to put a note of reality to a thread which seldom happens at DP lately, Trump LOST the House and only picked up two seats in the Senate. Yet in 2020 the GOP faces the same tough Senate map dynamic that the Dems had for Senate races this year. So Trump is going to get punched in the mouth every day for the next two years and then faces the very real possibility that even if he wins in 2020 he gets punched in the mouth every day by a Dem controlled Senate. Donald does not like being punched in the mouth. I really doubt he runs in 2020.
 
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Well I guess we will just have to see now won't we. Recent evidence does not help you. Independents moved 24% across from the GOP to Dems in the mid-terms. That is not sustainable for the Donald in a run at a second term.

Just to put a note of reality to a thread which seldom happens at DP lately, Trump LOST the House and only picked up two seats in the Senate. Yet in 2020 the GOP faces the same tough Senate map dynamic that the Dems had for Senate races this year. So Trump is going to get punched in the mouth every day for the next two years and then faces the very real possibility that even if he wins in 2020 he gets punched in the mouth every day by a Dem controlled Senate. Donald does not like being punched in the mouth. I really doubt he runs in 2020.

The incumbent party usually loses House seats and often control itself. Since the Civil war, the average House loss for the incumbent party is 32 seats and we must remember that that represents different sized Houses and thus different percentages. So, the Dems, by just about any measure, did average to slightly above in the House and below average in the Senate. As for Trump, he's been getting punched in the mouth every day since inauguration day and is the only president to ever have the MSM openly rooting for his failure and the success of the opposition. Yet, he soldiers on and will do so in 2020 as well.
 
The incumbent party usually loses House seats and often control itself. Since the Civil war, the average House loss for the incumbent party is 32 seats and we must remember that that represents different sized Houses and thus different percentages. So, the Dems, by just about any measure, did average to slightly above in the House and below average in the Senate. As for Trump, he's been getting punched in the mouth every day since inauguration day and is the only president to ever have the MSM openly rooting for his failure and the success of the opposition. Yet, he soldiers on and will do so in 2020 as well.

He has not been punched in the mouth every day. Thats ridiculous. Any MSM criticism you want to bring to bear is entirely offset by Trump having the biggest megaphone on the block plus a propaganda network entirely devoted to defending him and praising him.

There has been no oversight from the sycophant Hill the entire time he has been in office. That ends in January.

This is also a gerrymandered House map and even with that the biggest vote tally win for the Dems in a mid-term since the Nixon resignation mid-term. It has already matched that for vote tally. If you think any member of the GOP relishes unfavorable comparisons to the Nixon resignation mid-term or anything Nixon and election, you are dreaming.

The GOP had a very very favorable map for the Senate this election but face exactly the unfavorable map the Dems had this time around when 2020 comes around. I don't see Donald wanting to face two years of getting punched in the mouth by the House and then facing at least two more years if not more getting punched in the mouth by the Senate. He is getting what he wants out of this term and he really does not care what anybody else wants.
 
It's unconstitutional by any measure. Ironically, they voted against secession in April but had many of their members arrested in September, 1861 anyway on mere fears that they might change what had been an overwhelming vote earlier. Habeas corpus was also arbitrarily suspended. Baltimore and much of the state was under virtual martial law prior to these actions, yet, despite the rumblings of some secessionists, no overt move toward secession had ever occurred to warrant such heavy handed tactics.

Again, civil war is not a useful laboratory for civics lessons. Life in the North might have been far more dictatorial than it was had there been some other President than Lincoln, who resisted advice to postpone the 1864 election under martial law well before the Union successes of the late summer and fall brightened his, up to then, dim chance of reelection.
 
Again, civil war is not a useful laboratory for civics lessons. Life in the North might have been far more dictatorial than it was had there been some other President than Lincoln, who resisted advice to postpone the 1864 election under martial law well before the Union successes of the late summer and fall brightened his, up to then, dim chance of reelection.

Lincoln was in a world of hurt because the Civil War was being fought as a traditional war of that era. Therefore the North should have been rolling over the South and squishing it like a bug, the gallantry of the South blah, blah, blah aside. The North wasn't because its battlefield leadership was horrific. The Electorate of the era knew the North should have just been squashing the South and Lincoln was about to pay the price for what was for the Electorate of that era inconceivable.

It would have been unfair to have blamed Lincoln entirely for that dynamic. But he was going to pay for it anyway. The North got the bulk of the drunkards and the grafters for officers and the South got the bulk of the actual military men for officers. About all of four US senior officers pulled Lincoln's nuts out of the fire for him.
 
Lincoln was in a world of hurt because the Civil War was being fought as a traditional war of that era. Therefore the North should have been rolling over the South and squishing it like a bug, the gallantry of the South blah, blah, blah aside. The North wasn't because its battlefield leadership was horrific. The Electorate of the era knew the North should have just been squashing the South and Lincoln was about to pay the price for what was for the Electorate of that era inconceivable.

It would have been unfair to have blamed Lincoln entirely for that dynamic. But he was going to pay for it anyway. The North got the bulk of the drunkards and the grafters for officers and the South got the bulk of the actual military men for officers. About all of four US senior officers pulled Lincoln's nuts out of the fire for him.

At the start of the war the Union barely had an army - under 20,000, and most of it was deployed in the West to deal with Indians. The South had no army at all of course. The frustration that eventually grew was over the failure of the federal army that eventually was put in place to win decisive battles against smaller, less equipped Confederate forces. The irony of the ‘64 election was the candidacy opposing Lincoln of George McClellan, the general chiefly responsible for the Union’s snail like pace in its initial prosecution of the war, running as a peace candidate.
 
At the start of the war the Union barely had an army - under 20,000, and most of it was deployed in the West to deal with Indians. The South had no army at all of course. The frustration that eventually grew was over the failure of the federal army that eventually was put in place to win decisive battles against smaller, less equipped Confederate forces. The irony of the ‘64 election was the candidacy opposing Lincoln of George McClellan, the general chiefly responsible for the Union’s snail like pace in its initial prosecution of the war, running as a peace candidate.

The way McClellan conducted the war as the leader of the army of the Potomac, you would think he was afraid of fighting
 
At the start of the war the Union barely had an army - under 20,000, and most of it was deployed in the West to deal with Indians. The South had no army at all of course. The frustration that eventually grew was over the failure of the federal army that eventually was put in place to win decisive battles against smaller, less equipped Confederate forces. The irony of the ‘64 election was the candidacy opposing Lincoln of George McClellan, the general chiefly responsible for the Union’s snail like pace in its initial prosecution of the war, running as a peace candidate.

McClellan was a piece of work. Hooker was a piece of work. Burnside was a piece of work and that is just for starters. The Union actually had more decent battlefield officers than I implied in the previous post. But seemingly wherever you found a decent battlefield officer there was a complete numbskull for a superior officer. Had to be enough to drive military observers of the day just beside themselves.

I am sure I am not remembering this correctly, but one of the sarcastic sayings of the day regarding McClellan was that if you gave him his head completely, the front of his column would have met the rear as they were so often in rapid retreat that the rear barely had the command that they were falling back before the front of the column had circled back and bumped into their backsides thus leaving the front and rear of his columns facing back to back in opposite directions!....That would have been quite a feat when you consider that the length of columns of that day could easily be several miles long and mule or horse drawn or on foot.
 
Yes it is. Trump is a wanna be authoritarian who would completely eliminate all opposition to him if he could. And that should scare the daylights out of every American.

It should. But the base sincerely believe Trump actually cares about them.
 
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