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Alaskans Plead to Leave U.S. and Reunite with Russia.....

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Some Alaskans apparently are not opposed to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s recent annexation of Crimea—in fact, they are hoping to be grabbed up next.

More than 30,000 Alaskans have signed the petition “Alaska back to Russia,” pleading that the White House allow them to secede and join their native land. If the request garners 100,000 signatures by April 20, the White House will make an official response.



Alaska has only been a state for 55 years. Russia owned the territory until 1867, when Secretary of State William H. Seward agreed to pay $7.2 million for President Andrew Jackson’s “polar bear garden.” .....snip~

Alaskans Plead to Leave U.S. and Reunite with Russia - Sarah Jean Seman

What in the hell is wrong with these people. Are they stoned?
 

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You can find 100,000 (in this case 30,000 so far) idiots in any state.

Some Alaskans apparently are not opposed to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s recent annexation of Crimea—in fact, they are hoping to be grabbed up next.

More than 30,000 Alaskans have signed the petition “Alaska back to Russia,” pleading that the White House allow them to secede and join their native land. If the request garners 100,000 signatures by April 20, the White House will make an official response.



Alaska has only been a state for 55 years. Russia owned the territory until 1867, when Secretary of State William H. Seward agreed to pay $7.2 million for President Andrew Jackson’s “polar bear garden.” .....snip~

Alaskans Plead to Leave U.S. and Reunite with Russia - Sarah Jean Seman

What in the hell is wrong with these people. Are they stoned?
 

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You can find 100,000 (in this case 30,000 so far) idiots in any state.
Heya CM. :2wave: Whoever it is.....is a nut.


One "S.V." of Anchorage launched the almost nonsensical petition:

Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.


Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.

First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat "St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia.....snip~
 

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You can find 100,000 (in this case 30,000 so far) idiots in any state.
Well...yeah.
But Alaska has such a small population.
Maybe 700,000 or so.
Figure 1/2 are children, 1/4 are meth addicts who don't even know what state they're in.
That leaves a very small pool of potential petition signers to reach the 100,000 mark.
How many signatures did those whacky Texan secessionists get for their petition?
 

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Heya CM. :2wave: Whoever it is.....is a nut.


One "S.V." of Anchorage launched the almost nonsensical petition:

Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.


Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.

First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat "St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia.....snip~
Greetings, MMC. :2wave:

I honestly don't know at this point if I'm responding to a joke post, but being of the opinion that "you can't make this stuff up," I'm going to assume that it is factual.

Rather than signing petitions requesting that Alaska secede from the US and join Russia, they should be told right off the bat that they can't legally do that. Oh, they can certainly sign millions of petitions if they want to, but secession is never going to happen. Alaska is one of 50 States in the US.

So rather than expecting Putin to somehow magically just take Alaska away from the US, with no objection from us, I suggest that we just give those that want to return to Russia a hearty "good-bye and good luck on your journey" talk, and send them on their way back to Russia. I don't know if DC would be willing to let them leave, either, but that's up to them to decide.

The troubling thing about this is that they apparently feel that they would be happier living in Russia than the US. Why?
 

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Stoned probably nailed it. Either that or they are those libertarian types that suddenly evision putinlikefreedom as something
better than obamacare!

You can find 100,000 (in this case 30,000 so far) idiots in any state.
 

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So rather than expecting Putin to somehow magically just take Alaska away from the US, with no objection from us, I suggest that we just give those that want to return to Russia a hearty "good-bye and good luck on your journey" talk, and send them on their way back to Russia. I don't know if DC would be willing to let them leave, either, but that's up to them to decide.
Didn't Russia Legally give Crimea to the Ukraine
Exactly.

Russia did not legally invaded Crimea neither for it too was a Ukrainian area. He took it with might and money. Alaska cannot leave the USA for you will keep it with might and money.

So basically it seems might and money keeps and takes countries. Nothing new here for this is how it always was.

The powerful have more might and more money. They make a move and it is interpreted as either "liberation" or "invasion" depending on whose side you are on.
 

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The bear population of Alaska feels discriminated against and wants to be reunited with the motherland.
 

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Well, given the "justice" of taking Crimea, then obviously Alaskans can vote to join Russia. In fact, Russia should invade Alaska and hold the election.
 

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Exactly.

Russia did not legally invaded Crimea neither for it too was a Ukrainian area. He took it with might and money. Alaska cannot leave the USA for you will keep it with might and money.

So basically it seems might and money keeps and takes countries. Nothing new here for this is how it always was.

The powerful have more might and more money. They make a move and it is interpreted as either "liberation" or "invasion" depending on whose side you are on.
:agree: This is getting to be ridiculous, though. The power games being played by those who determine the destinies of billions of people on this planet proves that they do not care one whit about the lives of those they are affecting. They really don't care, and that is sobering to consider. Perhaps it was ever thus, but it seems to be accelerating for some reason, meaning either that some final goal is in sight, or they are afraid that if it isn't finalized quickly it will all unravel, and they will have lost control. Time will tell.

Greetings, DDD. :2wave:
 

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Well, given the "justice" of taking Crimea, then obviously Alaskans can vote to join Russia. In fact, Russia should invade Alaska and hold the election.
But Obama might bar Russian leaders from like.... disney world.
 

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The bear population of Alaska feels discriminated against and wants to be reunited with the motherland.
Heya RM. :2wave: Should we worry that Putin will send in his Night Wolves? :lol:



"What"......cmons now. They're wearing jeans. :mrgreen:
 

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Why not finish the "bridge to nowhere"? We simply make it between Palin's house and Siberia. Let Sarah show them the way. And when they get to Siberia, tear the bridge down.
 

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:agree: This is getting to be ridiculous, though. The power games being played by those who determine the destinies of billions of people on this planet proves that they do not care one whit about the lives of those they are affecting. They really don't care, and that is sobering to consider. Perhaps it was ever thus, but it seems to be accelerating for some reason, meaning either that some final goal is in sight, or they are afraid that if it isn't finalized quickly it will all unravel, and they will have lost control. Time will tell.

Greetings, DDD. :2wave:
I think it is about covering the right kind of people. If people are smart, want to chase printed money their all life and want to live by their ways, then it is the west. If people are stupid, want to be exploited out of their money in a hierarchial mafia type chain, and live by the rules of the visible and powerful big boss, then it is the east.

People are happiest depending whether what they are matches with where they live. Someone who is used to be dominated with rules how to live, power, and dogma may not be as happy on our free world. We in turn are (us specifically were) suficated under their dictatorial regime, etc.

It is covering the right kind of people by using power. Democracy may not do for everyone today. Perhaps slowly tomorrow though.
 
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A lot of folks have been moving North from the lower 48, but the older long time folks all sympathize with the Alaskan Independence Party - they've wanted to secede from the US for some time now. This rejoining of Russia is a newer twist.
 

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Why is the bear associated with Russia anyway? This is becoming very common nowadays?
 

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Some Alaskans apparently are not opposed to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s recent annexation of Crimea—in fact, they are hoping to be grabbed up next.

More than 30,000 Alaskans have signed the petition “Alaska back to Russia,” pleading that the White House allow them to secede and join their native land. If the request garners 100,000 signatures by April 20, the White House will make an official response.



Alaska has only been a state for 55 years. Russia owned the territory until 1867, when Secretary of State William H. Seward agreed to pay $7.2 million for President Andrew Jackson’s “polar bear garden.” .....snip~

Alaskans Plead to Leave U.S. and Reunite with Russia - Sarah Jean Seman

What in the hell is wrong with these people. Are they stoned?



They're not even the same bears. Even the Reindeer in Alaska and Canada are different, nor even Aleuts speak Russian.

The whole thing has to be a joke. There can be no parallel with Ukraine as there is likely one person in Alaska who speaks Russian, regardless of what they can see from their house. Crimea was almost 2/3 Russian speaking or of Russian descent.

If anything, Alaska looks south, there has long been an idea that Washington, British Columbia and Alaska should join together and become an independent nation of Cascadia.
 

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Heya CM. :2wave: Whoever it is.....is a nut.


One "S.V." of Anchorage launched the almost nonsensical petition:

Groups Siberian russians crossed the Isthmus (now the Bering Strait) 16-10 thousand years ago.


Russian began to settle on the Arctic coast, Aleuts inhabited the Aleutian Archipelago.

First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat "St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years

Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia.....snip~


Thanks, MMC, but that is incorrect.

There were no Russians 10,000 years ago. Aleuts, Inuvit, and what you call Eskimo are of Asian descent, more akin to Tibetans and Northern Chinese than even Eurasian Russian. Any evidence of a land bridge disappeared 10,000 years ago. Tool development, sewing techniques and skin tanning confirm the Asian base. The languages and customs are from a completely alien source to the Moscovite Russian who didn't even make it to the Siberian Peninsula until the 1400's or so.
 

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Why is the bear associated with Russia anyway? This is becoming very common nowadays?
Well, guess :)


Also, the national animal of Russia is the Russian Bear. But this "tradition" of having a national animal is a recent thing.
List of national animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But there is also an historical reason.

Ever since the time of the Romanovs, Russia has been symbolized by a bear, especially in the west. I don't think we can put date on exactly when this started happening and when this symbolism took root but you know, around the 1700s or later.

Now the Russians never invited this symbolism to their country. I mean there is nothing in the Russian symbolism that hints towards a bear. The Tsarist Empire, like all western nations, had The Eagle as its symbol for the same reason the West has a lot of Eagle symbols -> because of the Romans. I mean the Tsarist flag has a Eagle. The Russian military had and has eagles. Everything is with eagles in all western countries .The USA has a lot of eagles, ofc, its' even the national animal... just like France and Germany and Italy and other countries have some Eagle as the national animal. Romania also had the eagle as national icon on our flag for a long time, now, post communism and post monarchy, it's no longer there.

But the newspapers in the western world, and hence, since Russia started westernizing in the 1700s, in Russia too, had, sometimes as light humor, sometimes as a sign of appreciation and sometimes as an insult, associated Russia with a bear. Slow to start but once it was on the move it was impossible to stop. Or if you wish to use it as an insult, a wild and clumsy animal.
 
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