Alabama Chief Justice Moore suspended for rejecting legalization of same-sex marriage

[SDET]

Re: Alabama Chief Justice Moore suspended for rejecting legalization of same-sex marr

He is a freaking judge..and he is sworn to follow the law, not his dogma...

Of course if he was a muslim judge doing the same thing, how would you feel?[/QUOTE]

You will likely get the chance to find out in your lifetime.

 

[Somerville]

Re: Alabama Chief Justice Moore suspended for rejecting legalization of same-sex marr

He is a freaking judge..and he is sworn to follow the law, not his dogma...

Of course if he was a muslim judge doing the same thing, how would you feel?

You will likely get the chance to find out in your lifetime.

and just as with Moore, a conservative Muslim judge would also lose his seat on the bench

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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Sure, CC. Whatever you say. ROTFLOL.

I'm glad that we agree that what you wrote was irrelevant.

 

[winston53660]

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A really good friend of mine is an elected Judge and man the pressure and scrutiny they are under is tremendous. And they have to follow the wether they agree with it or not. What this Alabama guy did was wrong and just downright sneaky in a bad way

 

[justabubba]

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A really good friend of mine is an elected Judge and man the pressure and scrutiny they are under is tremendous. And they have to follow the wether they agree with it or not. What this Alabama guy did was wrong and just downright sneaky in a bad way

i see him as being VERY overt

what sneakiness have i missed?

 

[Logicman]

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Obviously you're not up to speed on the subject. A bit of the Google dance and once again we find that the Christian Dominionist is quote mining in yet another attempt to find support for their theological ideas - beliefs, not ideas

There has been more than one person named "The Father of Public Schools" though Benjamin Rush is among the early holders of the title. A bit more of the quote, without the ellipses, has something interesting to think about - for those capable of thinking

I proceed in the next place, to enquire, what mode of education we shall adopt so as to secure to the state all the advantages that are to be derived from the proper instruction of youth; and here I beg leave to remark, that the only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be laid in Religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty, and liberty is the object and life of all republican governments.

Such is my veneration for every religion that reveals the attributes of the Deity, or a future state of rewards and punishments, that I had rather see the opinions of Confucius or Mahomed inculcated upon our youth, than see them grow up wholly devoid of a system of religious principles. But the religion I mean to recommend in this place, is that of the New Testament.

Funny how modern Christians love to talk about the "massive" growth of Christianity within just a hundred years of the time of Jesus, taking over and abolishing all the pagan beliefs of the Roman Empire; all the while they continue to blame the fall of that empire on "carnal hedonism". Funny that Rome's greatest expansion came during the time of pagan caesars and fell when Christians ruled.

Sorry, Somerville - your anti-Christian, socialist agenda doesn't change history. My quotes stand, as well as the carnal debauchery of same-sex marriage.

 

[Logicman]

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I'm glad that we agree that what you wrote was irrelevant.

In your dreams. Your consensus of opinion consists of the usual far-left, anti-Biblical pundits.

 

[Sherman123]

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Often when I observe these controversies I'm struck at how applicable the Talmudic principle of Dina De-Malkhuta Dina really is, at least in the hypothetical. The phrase, which means more or less that 'The Law of the Land is the Law', is of core importance in Halackha. This Rabbinic distinction is biblically cited to the sojourns of the Israelites in Babylon when Samuel instructed them to reconcile themselves to the new authorities and furthermore that they must obey their laws. This principle, this law, has been constantly debated and evaluated for thousands of years as Jewish communities have been confronted with new situations, governments, and legislation.

Broadly speaking there are several absolute restrictions on this principle, most of them are fairly obvious for example laws which restrict observance or ritual law must not be obeyed, laws which are explicitly at odds with the Torah (even then it can be fuzzy), etc. However this is only applicable if the Jewish community is being forced to adhere to something, not if they are mere observers or being asked to forego something that is not 'mandatory'. For example while marriage between an Uncle and Niece is permitted by the Torah, a Rabbi would not authorize such a marriage in a civil jurisdiction which prohibits such unions.

Bringing this home the issue of same sex marriage and the refusal of Judge Moore to obey the law this is something most of the Rabbis I know (who are Orthodox) have had little trouble navigating despite their personal opposition. In a situation like this I'm quite confident they would likely obey the dictates of the Supreme Court or they would resign their position and move to private practice.

Sometimes I wish that Christian faith groups had a flexible principle like this. It would make navigating the changing cultural landscape and the shifting political climate easier and far less controversial while allowing them to retain their core faith. Just my two cent contribution.

 

[winston53660]

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i see him as being VERY overt

what sneakiness have i missed?

His quote:

“There is nothing in writing that you will find that I told anybody to disobey a federal court order.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us/judge-roy-moore-alabama-same-sex-marriage.html?_r=0

He is trying to be sneaky in order to enforce his judicial activism.

 

[beefheart]

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Sorry, Somerville - your anti-Christian, socialist agenda doesn't change history. My quotes stand, as well as the carnal debauchery of same-sex marriage.

 

[winston53660]

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Sorry, Somerville - your anti-Christian, socialist agenda doesn't change history. My quotes stand, as well as the carnal debauchery of same-sex marriage.

And what about your anti-pagan,druid,satanist, wicca, hindu, buddhist, etc. agenda!

 

[winston53660]

Re: Alabama Chief Justice Moore suspended for rejecting legalization of same-sex marr

Sorry, Somerville - your anti-Christian, socialist agenda doesn't change history. My quotes stand, as well as the carnal debauchery of same-sex marriage.

And what about your anti-pagan,druid,satanist, wicca, hindu, buddhist, etc. agenda!

 

[shrubnose]

Re: Alabama Chief Justice Moore suspended for rejecting legalization of same-sex marr

Talibornagain zealot gets smacked...


Alabama Chief Justice Moore suspended for rejecting legalization of same-sex marriage

Alabama Chief Justice Moore suspended for rejecting legalization of same-sex marriage

Arturo Garcia

06 May 2016 at 22:44 ET

Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore was suspended on Friday for defying the legalization of marriage equality, AL.com reported.

Moore was suspended after the Alabama Judicial Inquiry Commission filed ethics charges against him. Moore will now be tried by the Alabama Court of the Judiciary, and could be removed from the bench if found guilty.

The commission’s move was spurred by complaints by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which released a statement saying Moore had “disgraced” his position.

“He’s such a religious zealot, such an egomaniac that he thinks he doesn’t have to follow federal court rulings he disagrees with,” said the group’s president, Richard Cohen. “For the good of the state, he should be kicked out of office.”

Moore, who stated last year he would “not be bound” by the Supreme Court’s ruling legalizing same-sex marriages because they change the “organic law” of God, was dismissive of the accusations against him.

“The Judicial Inquiry Commission has no authority over the administrative orders of the chief justice of Alabama or the legal injunctions of the Alabama Supreme Court prohibiting probate judges from issuing same-sex marriage licenses,” he said. “The Judicial Inquiry Commission has chosen to listen to people like Ambrosia Starling, a professed transvestite and other gay, lesbian and bisexual individuals, as well as organizations that support their agenda.”

Is anyone shocked that this happened?

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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Sorry, Somerville - your anti-Christian, socialist agenda doesn't change history. My quotes stand, as well as the carnal debauchery of same-sex marriage.

In other words, since you can't refute a thing he said... which is typical of you... you just say absolutely nothing.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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In your dreams. Your consensus of opinion consists of the usual far-left, anti-Biblical pundits.

Nah. But your consensus of knowledge is right wing evangelical ignorance that has no basis in either reality or intelligence.

Now, show us ALL just how poor a debater you are by responding with either one of the ignorant pics that you have posted many times, or by showing your inability by saying something that is flat out dumb.

 

[ajn678]

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Sorry, Somerville - your anti-Christian, socialist agenda doesn't change history. My quotes stand, as well as the carnal debauchery of same-sex marriage.

Can you provide any evidence that same sex marriage is debauchery outside of your religious book? That book has no place in deciding the laws that the United States follows. This nation is not beholden to the Bible, or any other religious text.

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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Can you provide any evidence that same sex marriage is debauchery outside of your religious book? That book has no place in deciding the laws that the United States follows. This nation is not beholden to the Bible, or any other religious text.

Careful. Now he's going to respond with something self-righteous and totally illogical.

 

[Lursa]

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Moore, who stated last year he would “not be bound” by the Supreme Court’s ruling legalizing same-sex marriages because they change the “organic law” of God, was dismissive of the accusations against him.

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Incompetent and obviously does not understand the Constitution. Should never have attained the bench to begin with. Can his ass. I'd like to say 'just move on' but someone who has this obviously not understood his job from the beginning should have ALL his previous decisions reexamined by a competent justice. Sad and expensive for AL taxpayers for sure.

 

[ajn678]

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Careful. Now he's going to respond with something self-righteous and totally illogical.

I'm expecting utter idiocy or just to be ignored. That is usually what happens with people like him.

 

[Logicman]

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Can you provide any evidence that same sex marriage is debauchery outside of your religious book? That book has no place in deciding the laws that the United States follows. This nation is not beholden to the Bible, or any other religious text.

I don't need to qualify further the Bible's moral foundations, although I could. God's Word is the final arbiter, and in addition, there is another court and another Judge in the hereafter who will decided the fate of those who transgress the Lord's law.

God takes people off the earth all the time for their sins. You can find an example of that in the Book of Acts, so people shouldn't feel safe and assured thinking the ruling by the left-wing judges on the Supreme Court legitimizing same-sex debauchery has their backs.

 

[Logicman]

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I'm expecting utter idiocy or just to be ignored. That is usually what happens with people like him.

Glad to have just disappointed you. See previous post. And that goes for your like-minded brethren too.

 

[beefheart]

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I don't need to qualify further the Bible's moral foundations, although I could. God's Word is the final arbiter, and in addition, there is another court and another Judge in the hereafter who will decided the fate of those who transgress the Lord's law.

God takes people off the earth all the time for their sins. You can find an example of that in the Book of Acts, so people shouldn't feel safe and assured thinking the ruling by the left-wing judges on the Supreme Court legitimizing same-sex debauchery has their backs.

Oh look, you are hoping for your god to be a hitman again. Keep hiding behind your book.

 

[Logicman]

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Oh look, you are hoping for your god to be a hitman again. Keep hiding behind your book.

That's stupid.

 

[beefheart]

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That's stupid.

It is hilarious when you don't have an answer, but feel the need to answer.

 

[justabubba]

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if there is justice - real justice - the bastard will lose his pension because he was terminated instead of allowed to retire
please let him fight this such that his pension serves as payment for the shame he has inflicted on our nation's legal system