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Asylum claims have been addressed by courts. There are limits to what the Trump administration can do (get away with).
++ How do Trumps proposals to violate US law and treaty law put America first?
I assume you're referring to the immigration laws. If so he's trying to side step laws that are idiotic remember
Eisenhower’s & Kennedy's America was a nation of 160 million with a
European Christian core and a culture uniquely its own. The USA was a country then. What will hold this country together
if we don't control both legal & illegal immigration.It will become a stew of 450 million
of every creed culture & color from every country on earth.
It's in Trump's hands to keep the uSA a country if he doesn't succeed this area will merely become a geographic location.
More than a century ago Teddy Roosevelt became a prophet stating 'The way of bringing this nation
to ruin, of preventing all possibility of it continuing to be a nation at all, would be
to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities.' 'What Roosevelt warned us against we have become.'
How wrong is it to take no provision for the likely darknes that looms ahead!
You’re right. We never should have let those Irish, Italians and Jews in. And blacks? Fuggedabout it. Who let them in to ruin our precious WASP culture? Talk about “darkness that looms.” And Indians? Why wasn’t anyone guarding the Bering Strait back in the day? And don’t get me started on the “Heathen Chinee.”
Go rent “Blazing Saddles.” It will be good for your soul.
Did you see my avatar, a rendering of 'Red Eagle' war chief of the Creek Nation who had the wear
with all and the girth of being to battle the US army and Andrew jackson toe to toe until his quest for power
& glory was ended at Horseshoe Bend. One of the five men I most admire born on American soil.
I was charitable enough to answer your 2 previous questions. I consider your replies & posts as
peculiar. don't moralize! BTW I saw BS when it came out in theatre in 1974. Move along!
The Hon. N. H. Claiborne, in his Notes on the War written
while feelings of animosities were still fresh
against "Red Eagle, gives the following glowing, though by no
means partial sketch of his character: "Fortune bestowed on
Weatherford (his father was Scottish), genius, eloquence, and courage. The first of
these qualities enabled him to conceive great designs; the
last to execute them; while eloquence, bold, impressive, and figurative,
furnished him with a passport to the favor of his countrymen and followers.
Where did you see me saying that I was opposed to "detaining" persons seeking refugee and/or asylee status under ANY conditions of detention?
But as said by both of us...camps might be better.You said:locking asylum seekers up in cages/cells as if they had actually been convicted of crimes is likely going a bit too far.
Since the vast majority of US "points of entry" are actually located INSIDE the territorial boundaries of the United States of America, exactly how does one present oneself to one of them WITHOUT "entering" the United States of America?
8 USC §1325. Improper entry by alien
(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties
Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of-
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
Thus "improper entry" is a CIVIL and not a criminal offence. Not only that, but there is no "penal sanction" attached to "improper entry". That means that holding someone in custody, unless they post a bail bond in excess of the maximum penalty that can be imposed is highly likely to be unconstitutional.
The people of Japanese extraction, some of whom were third and fourth generation "natural born" Americans, were treated better than the people were in the Nazi murder factories. To call those murder factories "concentration camps" insults the memories of everyone who was slaughtered in them (because there was no actual intent to slaughter, wholesale, anyone sent to the original "concentration camps").
I assume you're referring to the immigration laws. If so he's trying to side step laws that are idiotic remember
Eisenhower’s & Kennedy's America was a nation of 160 million with a
European Christian core and a culture uniquely its own. The USA was a country then. What will hold this country together
if we don't control both legal & illegal immigration.It will become a stew of 450 million
of every creed culture & color from every country on earth.
It's in Trump's hands to keep the uSA a country if he doesn't succeed this area will merely become a geographic location.
More than a century ago Teddy Roosevelt became a prophet stating 'The way of bringing this nation
to ruin, of preventing all possibility of it continuing to be a nation at all, would be
to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities.' 'What Roosevelt warned us against we have become.'
How wrong is it to take no provision for the likely darknes that looms ahead!
It might have been...
But as said by both of us...camps might be better.
Fact is though, detention needs to be standard operating procedure. Cages...camps...whatever it takes.
THAT is the passage they are using as a loophole? it says right there we can lawfully hold them for 6 months if first offense OR up to 2 years if second or more.
how does that equate to we have to release them to the interior and not a holding facility to wait their turn if they choose to do so?
Please try reading for comprehension.
Please learn the difference between "opposed to "detaining" persons seeking refugee and/or asylee status under ANY conditions" and opposed to opposed to "detaining" persons seeking refugee and/or asylee status under ALL conditions".
Strike a happy medium between "Ellis Island" and "Club Med For Families" for the "Applicant Holding Areas" and I have absolutely no objection to "keeping asylum and refuge seekers where their presence at any determination hearings can be assured". In fact, most of the labour of running those AHAs could be drawn from their own populations (and be paid the appropriate local wages).
true but the Japanese thing was still bad due to the fact that they were american citizens AND we were singling out a certain race. the illegal aliens are not citizens and we mean to act fairly to them all, BUT they have to wait their turn.
ANY/ALL...ya know...I believe there are some pretty good hair treatments out there for split hairs.
A These people are flooding the border. They know gawd-damn well what they are doing.
Something akin to large prison camps would be sufficient.
As opposed to turning 78,000 people a month with no assets lose on the communities with no support.
Lord knows the leftist cities dont want them.
What I know is that under the current system we are literally relaeasing hundreds of thousands of homeless people from other countries onto our streets.Did you know that the minute "those people" become "public charges" their application can be rejected?
What I know is that under the current system we are literally relaeasing hundreds of thousands of homeless people from other countries onto our streets.
"Those people" are illegal immigrants. They are not asylum seekers. They lost asylum status the moment they refused Mexicos support.
They are illegal immigrants and should be bagged, tagged, and sent home on a bus.
The BEST system they could put in place right now would be to change the law to state that ANYONE that has entered the US illegally will lose any legal immigration status for life.
Of course...Canada could absorb them all.
Depending on how flexible you are going to be on that "akin" we could well be in agreement. If you are talking about "striped uniforms", three to a bed "hot bunking", 1,000 calories a day rations, guards with whips and clubs having total freedom to "encourage order", we are most definitely going to be in disagreement.
Well since I don't think the facilities should be an outdoor jail, and more a holding area, we are in agreement.
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