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After Trudeau's Speeches Against Indians, Racist Incidents in Canada Soon Follow

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Poor thing -- Justin's got her scared for her life


Trudeau starts badmouthing Indians, saying they're busy harming Canadian society with anti-national activities.

Surprise - there's suddenly an uptick in resentment towards Indians in Canada.

If Trudeau were to be shown this incident, he'd quickly put on an angelic face and condemn it in his usual sermonizing tone.

Because he's an Arsonist masquerading as a Fireman
 
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"Sudden"?

You do post the most entertaining content.

Couple things, my suddenly concerned about Indians friend.

1. You're talking about kitchener waterloo. South western Ontario has always been our Alabama. I lived there for a while, it was racist AF forever, certainly long before Trudeau ever filled you with envy over his great hair.

2. You're suggesting there's an uptick, and your post features one piece of shit woman acting like a piece of shit, in an area known for being a haven to like minded pieces of shit. You understand what an uptick is, right? And how to demonstrate one? Surely you missed posting a link, as it wouldn't be like you at all to just make shit up to justify your Trudeau obsession... would it?

3. Saying that India engaging in unsanctioned political assassinations in our country is not acceptable isn't "badmouthing Indians". It's common sense, it's having a spine, and it's saying nothing whatsoever about Indian people, but rather calling out specific, unacceptable behavior on the part of the Indian goverment - behavior you're apparently willing to overlook in order to have one more opportunity to bitch about Trudeau.

But, hey, one more great thread, bud, keep up the good work... lol
 
This is very likely the result of how many students from India have been admitted to Conestoga College over the past five years, this is not something that is recent.

JT is ultimately in charge of how many student visa's were allowed, and the rules that were changed regarding how many hours someone on a student visa was allowed to work.

DOFO and the Ontario Conservative party is to blame for cutting funding and encouraging colleges to recruit foreign students to make up for the shortfall in funding.

Conestoga College decided to operate like a for profit business and focused on piling cash in the bank. They brought in students that previously would never have been accepted, which has has caused the value of a diploma from Conestoga College to be worthless for all the other students that attended there, and so much more.

I don't believe this is so much about race (that old lady certainly made racist comments), but about allowing too many students into a community, when there was not enough housing, too many people on student visa's came here for employment and not education, a way to bypass the proper immigration process. Some will attribute racism to what would more accurately be frustration with university and college students, that has always had a large international presence in K-W.

'I'm unable to find anything': Waterloo Region students struggle to secure housing as fall semester inches closer

Some post-secondary students in Waterloo Region are struggling to find affordable housing as the beginning of fall semester draws closer – a trend highlighted in a new study from Ontario’s Big City Mayors.
kitchener.ctvnews.ca




I lived in K-W for a long time, my wife's office is there and has colleagues that came from India for school that have since finished; it was surprising to find out how common it is to have six people living in a two bedroom apartment where the only thing the occupants have in common is being from India. Not related, not friends, six strangers in a two bedroom apartment.

Long story short - This is not new and saying it happened because of JT is . . . authentic.
 
Political assassination? What's your buddy Nijjar holding there?
The guy was running a terrorist training camp in the woods of BC, where he was training Sikh youth on how to use high-powered rifles.
Doesn't sound like an innocent hobby, if you ask me. Just like his visits to Pakistan to meet with known terrorists weren't very innocent either.
And the unwillingness of Canadian media to show any unpleasant facts about Nijjar likewise doesn't seem very innocent.
But I'll expect you to turn a blind eye to all of it.
Trudeau wants to be another Zelensky, allowing himself to be used by Washington and its deep state as a geopolitical catspaw.
But just like Zelensky, Trudeau will similarly end up as a geopolitical loser loathed by his countrymen.

 
Allan said:
Got a link to his statements "badmouthing Indians"?
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He's made allegations without evidence, just like a McCarthyite would do - and the result is public paranoia against Indians.
Got a link to any evidence? Or do you like to create criminal cases without any?
 

Yeah, all your typical F-Trudeau zombie walking aside, no country should be killing anyone in ours without our permission, FFS.

If you can't get that through your head, then once again you find yourself in a conversation that's completely beyond you.

It really is sad what brain dead partisanship has done to common sense. I don't think you should be calling anyone else a loser.

But, hey, at least you're not trying to sell "upticks" anymore... lol
 
sanman said:
He's made allegations without evidence, just like a McCarthyite would do - and the result is public paranoia against Indians.
Got a link to any evidence? Or do you like to create criminal cases without any?
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Got a link showing Trudeau "badmouthing Indians?
sanman said:
Trudeau starts badmouthing Indians, saying they're busy harming Canadian society with anti-national activities.
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Uh, soooo... I'm not accusing you of anything personally, but the 519 is easily the most racist area in the province. Stretch to include Georgetown, stretch the other way to include London, and north to the Bruce peninsula.

And, still not accusing you of anything personally, but the attempt to reframe that racism as "frustration" at there being too many kids in one apartment is pretty on brand. How many kids you think the Mennonites have stuffed in their houses? That's probably not talked about quite as much in Ontario's Bible belt. Wonder why...

I fully agree that the way colleges have been taking kids in hasn't been ideal, but that's already being addressed, and it wasn't just a Conestoga College thing, it was colleges all over the province. But it does not excuse the way a lot of people in that part of the province treat, and have treated long before the school thing could be used as an excuse, non whites.
 
Admittedly, being a white guy, I will have blind spots to some racism happening. With that being said, I asked my wife what her thoughts were on racism around K-W after reading your post. She would have a much better understanding as she is not white and was raised by parents that got to Canada with no money, were not able to speak English, and no other people in the community that shared the same heritage; so very isolated with no privilege.

She thinks racism in K-W is no different than what she sees in Toronto. Mentioned that there is certainly racism around, but far more often it is from a hold over culturally with first and second generations bringing bias to the community, and calling it racism didn’t feel like the best description for it. She said she does get treated differently when she is with me, but generally it is by much older people, of every racial background.

I mentioned the six people (no longer students) in a two bedroom apartment to show what the policies of the government have done. It was in no way meant to insinuate anything about the people living in that arrangement. I don’t fault anyone for doing whatever they have to do to make a better life for themselves. The fault lies entirely with the federal and provincial governments for not recognizing what should have been known.

Not sure how the mennonites living arrangements relate to the living arrangements of those in the city? I’m pretty sure the farm next door wouldn’t notice if you quadrupled the number of mennonites, and if 12 mennonites moved into a house in the city - guaranteed all their bicycles would fit in one garage.

There is a lot of planning the city does when approving building permits, need to make sure there is enough parking, necessary transit available to move people around, ensure sufficient ambulances, etc. What do you think happens when people start parking wherever they can, or having to wait for multiple buses before being able to get on? People in the community that have to live with the consequences of a poorly managed population get fed up and begin to resent the people they identify as the cause.

If you were to keep all of the same issues, but instead of people coming from India they were all white Texans with cowboy hats; all the resentment would be directed at student aged white Texans in cowboy hats. There are multiple issues that could be brought up to show why the frustration is directly caused by the number of international students, and not just students from India.
 

You seem like a nice guy, so I'll tone it down a bit. I'll also remind you that I didn't accuse you of anything directly.

I went to school at Grand River and Waterloo Oxford. I lived there for around 10 years, after having moved back to the area in my mid teens, but my family is from the area - mainly Cambridge (where I was born and moved up north from when I was 9 months old) - so I have had cause to spend a lot of time there over the years.

I remember the hockey guys who loved to beat up "Pakis" and "queers". I remember being at the Lyric and seeing a black guy curb stomped outside for dating a white girl. I remember the quiet racism of otherwise polite, Christian people, reminiscing about the days when there were less of "them" around, complaining about things like overcrowding and hygiene and accents. I remember a very different K-W than you're describing, and that was before it went all F- Trudeau.

So the suggestion that there's some "uptick", driven by college acceptance or Trudeau not accepting other countries killing people in ours does not resonate.

Respectfully, I do not believe your Texan analogy. Sorry. It might be true for you personally, but i lived there too. Racism and homophobia in KW has always been a thing. Perhaps it's lessening, good grief here's hoping. But one woman being a miserable asshole certainly does not represent an uptick, which i know you're not suggesting, but was the original content I was replying to.
 
I appreciate the discussion and it allows me to understand a different point of view, duly noted on no accusation.

I was specifically referring to the incident that happened with that lady in the video which appears to be from uptown Waterloo, so in the direct vicinity of UW, WLU, and the ever growing CC campus. With respect, Waterloo Oxford would be considered a different planet compared to the area around the universities, at least it was 25-30 years ago. I don't doubt there was racism there in the slightest. I can't speak to how Cambridge is, as you know it's in the region but it's not really K-W, it's still it's own little enclave of 3/4 towns with a slight but distinct difference among them.

Had far more detail about the situation with students and city residents typed up but deleted due to length required to explain all the needed details, will only say I believe wholeheartedly my analogy represents the overwhelming vast majority in Waterloo. The Lyric era was half a lifetime ago, I have seen and lived through the changes myself, watched what my oldest daughter(27) dealt with, and what my youngest kids (a dozen+ years younger than her) dealt with.

I won't argue on homophobia being an issue, but show me a place that it is not.
 
I have been hiring chemical lab techs for over a decade.

I haven’t trusted southern Ontario diploma mills from 2012
 

Listen, I can understand that you're not engaging in the kind of behaviour KW is known for, or experiencing the negative side of it. These kind of things tend to impact different demographics differently, maybe you're not seeing it. However, with respect, KW appears to be exactly as I remember it:


Homophobia, like racism, is a problem everywhere, but the extent to which it is a problem appears to vary from region to region. Saying that Toronto has people and, I dunno, New Hamburg has people are both true statements, but these statements come to mean very different things when the number of people is introduced.

There appears to be much better places to be non-white or gay or Muslim or Jewish or ... well, you get the picture ... than KW, statistically speaking. Again, Waterloo region has the highest rate of police reported hate crimes in Canada. Not just Ontario, but in the entire country. And they scored #1 per capita as well.

Sorry, bud, it is what it is.
 
Good points all around, but that’s a snapshot of one year on reported incidents. Looks really bad if someone was looking strictly at a number, the police have their theory why it is so big:
But when asked to explain what could be behind it he pointed to the local support network, an increase in hate crime reporting, and geo-political factors like the Israel-Hamas war for the numbers spike.
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Influx of international students seen as 'huge' factor in rise in local hate crimes

One out of six hate crimes reported to police last year targeted South Asian individuals, up from one in 10 reported in 2022
www.cambridgetoday.ca


How many university or college campus protests did New Hamburg deal with?

Addressing reports of hate on our campuses | Waterloo News

Last week, I had the opportunity to sit down with groups of Palestinian and Jewish students to hear from them how the ongoing conflict is affecting them here at Waterloo. I appreciated the opportunity to listen and learn directly from them. I was also saddened and deeply concerned by some of the...
uwaterloo.ca

Students rally for Palestine in the quad – The Cord

thecord.ca


The fact of the matter is the rapid rise in hate is directly related to the number of international students brought into the community. I am not saying they are the cause, but some certainly contribute to the numbers, and with the way the government botched population management has increased tensions on everyday life that has nothing to do with race. Have you ever said shit you didn’t mean to someone when you lost your cool? Hope not, potential hate crime if you did.

I decided we had to move when the fourth set of students moved into the house next door and I had to argue repeatedly so they didn’t block our vehicles in our driveway, or that the sidewalk had to be shovelled for the neighbours using wheelchairs or walkers, the excessive noise, etc. Our house was not close to the universities/college campus’s at all, and students used to stay close to campus and we could avoid it all - until we couldn’t. I should note that every cohort of students that came through beside us were the white Canadian type, so it wasn’t racism - the issue was self absorbed students.

I get what you’re saying though, screw that old lady and all that are like her. She should just STFU or GTFO - no right to be pissed off that life around her home changed almost overnight. Just a dumb racist town full of dumb racist clowns. Yeah, bud, you nailed it.
 

So, when presented with an inexcusable and irrefutable hate crime statistic, you feel like the appropriate response is a wall of text full of excuses.

Yep... KW is EXACTLY as i remember it.
 
OlNate said:
So, when presented with an inexcusable and irrefutable hate crime statistic, you feel like the appropriate response is a wall of text full of excuses.

Yep... KW is EXACTLY as i remember it.
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Your attempt at the inexcusable and irrefutable proof without acknowledging where, or who, or what the rise in hate crime was about, shows your ignorance to the situation.

Yeah hate crime against the Jewish and Muslim faiths increased, the students at the universities really screwed everyone else with their actions on that one.

The community has been clear they would rather not have so many people that are only around temporarily - but you'll call them racist for that as well. Wear out that label bud, that'll help.
 

You're literally suggesting that your hate crime rate is somehow explained by college admission rates, as if the only possible outcome of having too many of "those people" around is having the highest hate crime rate in the country.

I take back the part about not accusing you of anything directly. Bud.
 
At least you are now being honest about it. You watched a two minute news clip and it confirmed you ignorant view of the city, and then "proved" it with statistics without context.

I posted what the police service said, that U of W and WLU both had protests related to the war in Gaza that contributed to the increase, posted what the president of Conestoga Students Inc said; to provide some context.

You stated that non-white people have better places to live, insinuating that white people are the cause of all the hate crime. Show how you came to that conclusion.

This is just in the last two weeks:

Kitchener teen sentenced for robbery at Conestoga Mall, attempted robbery on LRT

He also robbed a man at Conestoga Mall, a court heard.
www.therecord.com

I am not insinuating that immigrants or refugees are the cause of it all, no question it is shared by every demographic.

You do have the original CTV news story going for you.

Here is another video of that same woman (she has a reputation):
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The original full video that CTV used clips of:
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The guy that took the video:
Ashwin Annamalai is a former international student who worked closely with Kitchener Centre MP Mike Morrice developing recommendations focused on improving conditions for international students.
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‘This is not the Canadian dream’ — racism directed at Waterloo Region’s international students on the rise

Racism directed at international students on the rise
www.cambridgetimes.ca

There are multiple videos of this same lady and no doubt she is racist. Those two incidents are roughly a year and a half apart, sure looks like someone suffering dementia in the latest video. There is no doubt he has experienced racism and not just in his video that went viral. Claims he didn't experience it until 2023, but worked closely with the MP developing the private members bill that was tabled October 2023? I get that someone can have expertise in something without experiencing it, but to then be caught off-guard by the old racist white lady with a reputation for her racist tirades? I could accept this being a genuine random occurrence had CTV disclosed that he worked on developing the private members bill, but without that disclosure it comes across as something different.


Racism and hate are difficult to discuss in a civil manner. I don't place the blame on any single group in that community - but I certainly blame the federal and provincial government policies for creating the perfect environment for it. The fact you jumped to blame white people without considering anything else tells me who you are. The thirty years I've been discussing these issues, I've determined some people that hold prejudiced views are because they are ignorant, also learned that some bigots just choose to be.

I let you have the last word.
 
Modi is a reich-winner and another one of Putin’s bitches.
 

Lol... yeah, tl;dr.

The only people to blame for hate crimes are the people that commit them.

The end.

That so many people in KW see this kind of hatred as a reasonable response to anything speaks to the kind of place KW is. Being capable of having the highest number of hate crimes in the entire country doesn't just happen over night, it's an escalation of what has always been there.

Thanks for "letting" me have the last word. You sure seemed to enjoy taking the rest of them... hehe
 
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