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Afghan Refugees Face Federal Charges After Trying To Rape Child, Strangle Woman In Wisconsin: DOJ

Wanna talk about a violent culture?

~1,400,000 violent crimes per year on avg in US
~15,000 homicides

See what happens when we're in lockdown. Available on the FBI site. Then check property crimes.



This is two out of 120k+. Something like..errr...a few hundredths of a percent? Know what the 'Merkan numbers work out to?
Do we really want to talk violent cultures?

Offense chargedTotalWhiteBlack or
African
American
American
Indian or
Alaska
Native
AsianNative
Hawaiian
or Other
Pacific
Islander
TotalWhiteBlack or
African
American
American
Indian or
Alaska
Native
AsianNative
Hawaiian
or Other
Pacific
Islander
Total2Hispanic
or
Latino
Not
Hispanic
or Latino
TotalHispanic
or
Latino
Not
Hispanic
or Latino
TOTAL8,162,8495,626,1402,221,697196,90897,04921,055100.068.927.22.41.20.36,584,5331,190,6715,393,862100.018.181.9
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter9,4684,1885,02510812720100.044.253.11.11.30.27,0311,4625,569100.020.879.2
Rape318,06312,1875,18232230765100.067.528.71.81.70.414,0253,78710,238100.027.073.0
Robbery73,76432,12840,024679664269100.043.654.30.90.90.459,68012,72246,958100.021.378.7
Aggravated assault302,941188,087101,5137,5314,881929100.062.133.52.51.60.3255,05661,107193,949100.024.076.0
Burglary154,970104,67146,2271,9681,710394100.067.529.81.31.10.3123,67124,87398,798100.020.179.9
 
Gee, if we hadn’t let Italians into the country, we wouldnt have the Mafia. If we hadn’t let the Irish in, we wouldnt have the Gangs of New York. If we hadn’t brought blacks in, we wouldn’t have had the Civil War. If we hadn’t let Germans in, we might not have had Trump. Steel trap logic.
Left out "If the Native Americans hadn't let the 'white race' in. ;)
 
Do we really want to talk violent cultures?

Offense chargedTotalWhiteBlack or
African
American
American
Indian or
Alaska
Native
AsianNative
Hawaiian
or Other
Pacific
Islander
TotalWhiteBlack or
African
American
American
Indian or
Alaska
Native
AsianNative
Hawaiian
or Other
Pacific
Islander
Total2Hispanic
or
Latino
Not
Hispanic
or Latino
TotalHispanic
or
Latino
Not
Hispanic
or Latino
TOTAL8,162,8495,626,1402,221,697196,90897,04921,055100.068.927.22.41.20.36,584,5331,190,6715,393,862100.018.181.9
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter9,4684,1885,02510812720100.044.253.11.11.30.27,0311,4625,569100.020.879.2
Rape318,06312,1875,18232230765100.067.528.71.81.70.414,0253,78710,238100.027.073.0
Robbery73,76432,12840,024679664269100.043.654.30.90.90.459,68012,72246,958100.021.378.7
Aggravated assault302,941188,087101,5137,5314,881929100.062.133.52.51.60.3255,05661,107193,949100.024.076.0
Burglary154,970104,67146,2271,9681,710394100.067.529.81.31.10.3123,67124,87398,798100.020.179.9

"Talking about violent cultures" means to post a table with no title, no source link, no units where needed, without pointing to anything specific, and with absolutely no analysis? What conclusion would you like for us to draw from your mystery chart?
 
"Talking about violent cultures" means to post a table with no title, no source link, no units where needed, without pointing to anything specific, and with absolutely no analysis? What conclusion would you like for us to draw from your mystery chart?
1. I didn't bring up the violent cultures argument, that would be Mr Person so if you'd like to take it up with him, feel free.
2. That chart is the fbi charting violent crime, by race. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43
 
Let’s let “attitudes” we perceive in others determine our immigration or refugee policy. The joke about Irish women was that they were to be kept barefoot and pregnant. Some southern Italian women were made to marry their rapists. Vietnamese eat puppies. Cubans are all potential Scarface’s. Haitians all have AIDS, according to Trump, and Mexicans are rapists. Get real. No positives or negative fantasies we perceive about a culture, even if defendable in principle, apply universally.
There's a difference between percieved and known attitudes. Many muslim men have a horrible record of abuses towards their women. Not all but many, depending on which side of the muslim faith they practice. Because of that they need extra vetting and scrutiny. You mentioned Scarface. ( my favorite movie of all time btw ) There's a scene in the beginning where he is interviewed to see if hes a criminal remember? They find him out and hes sent to the fenced-in "freedomtown" for his fate to be determined. In real life many of the Cubans from the Mariel boatlift were deported back to Cuba because of their criminal history in Cuba AND because they committed crimes here.
 
You wanted to talk about violent cultures, so you pointed to a mystery chart. You still haven't made a point about the chart.
My point was simple. Cultures do indeed have differing levels of violence.
Not sure what point Mr Person was going with. Maybe "American" culture vs Afgani culture? But again, you'd have to ask him.
 
This is not twitter. How about posting some actual substance to spur debate instead of just sarcasm?
The substance is in the article. Read it.
 
The substance is in the article. Read it.

Thats not how this forum and specifically this section works.

II - All Opening Post threads posted in *BN* must have:

• Static link to an article from a news organization or website (the 'source')
• Dateline within the past 48 hours
• Exact same title as the cited article
• Your own unique content to spur discussion

Snark is not unique content.
 
No, it's not a crime to not have read the article you posted.
I read it. Did you? What is your issue with it? Is your argument that the crimes are only alleged at this point?
 
My point was simple. Cultures do indeed have differing levels of violence.

Of course. Is there a culture that uses violence and the threat of violence more than the USG does?

Not sure what point Mr Person was going with. Maybe "American" culture vs Afgani culture? But again, you'd have to ask him.

I need to ask him to make your points?
 
I read it. Did you? What is your issue with it? Is your argument that the crimes are only alleged at this point?

You said the crimes wouldn't have happened if they weren't in the US. The husband abused his wife-- that could've happened anywhere. You probably hadn't even read the short article.
 
Oh look. Another person who doesn't acknowledge or understand that if these people hadn't been let into our country then the crime against these women and girls would never have been commited. Such ignorance.
You clearly didn't even read your own article. 😂
 
Oh look. Another person who doesn't acknowledge or understand that if these people hadn't been let into our country then the crime against these women and girls would never have been commited. Such ignorance.

Except that it was a woman and boys, and that all of them were in the refugee group.
 
Daily Wire?

Automatically bullshit.
It happened. I don't know if it was really that important that the whole country hear about it, though. Seems a bit of a message there. Great news for those who want to make the Afghan refugees look bad.
 
Oh look. Another person who doesn't acknowledge or understand that if these people hadn't been let into our country then the crime against these women and girls would never have been commited. Such ignorance.
Almost sounds like you think we'd be crime-free if not for those nasty Afghans.
 
Oh look. Another person who doesn't acknowledge or understand that if these people hadn't been let into our country then the crime against these women and girls would never have been commited. Such ignorance.
How is that? It seems that they were all part of the same refugee group. But since they committed these heinous crimes in the US, they are under US law. In Afghanistan they may have been able to get away with this, here they're going to jail.
 
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