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KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — They hiked for more than 10 hours over rugged mountains — unarmed and without security — to bring medical care to isolated Afghan villagers until their humanitarian mission took a tragic turn.

Ten members of the Christian medical team — six Americans, two Afghans, one German and a Briton — were gunned down in a gruesome slaughter that the Taliban said they carried out, alleging the volunteers were spying and trying to convert Muslims to Christianity. The gunmen spared an Afghan driver, who recited verses from the Islamic holy book Quran as he begged for his life.

Team members — doctors, nurses and logistics personnel — were attacked as they were returning to Kabul after their two-week mission in the remote Parun valley of Nuristan province about 160 miles (260 kilometers) north of Kabul. They had decided to veer northward into Badakhshan province because they thought that would be the safest route back to Kabul, said Dirk Frans, director of the International Assistance Mission, which organized the team.
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Stupid arrogant fools. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

FOXNews.com - Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim responsibility

Stupid arrogant fools. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families.
I don't think calling people who gave their lives trying to help others "arrogant" is really appropriate. These people knew they where risking their lives, and considered the good they could do worth that risk. That is bravery of a type that should be commended.

The Taliban once again proves they are evil, and I cannot shed a single tear at the thought of the painful deaths coming their way.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

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Stupid arrogant fools. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families.
****in eh.

I may not be a big fan of the Afghan war. But Im even less of a fan of the Taliban. Buncha backward ass dip****s.

Get as many of them as we can before we get outta there. They deserve nothing less then predator drone up the ass.

Problem is I wish they'd stop being a bunch of cowards, stop hiding behind civilians and in their caves, and come out and face us. Buncha assholes.

Rant over.

Taliban = bad...
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Oh, and for those that called the Taliban "freedom fighters" in the Wikileaks thread...does this maybe make you think more about that? I hope so.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Stupid arrogant fools. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families.

I find this comment offensive beyond my ability to express.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

I find this comment offensive beyond my ability to express.
Why?

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

I find this comment offensive beyond my ability to express.
I actually took it entirely wrong at first, since I could not believe some one would say that. I had to completely start my post over when it sank in what he said.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Why?

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Oh, I don't know.
Perhaps it was the "stupid, arrogant fools" part. :doh
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Why?

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Because he is insulting people who chose to help those who had need, and died doing so.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Oh, I don't know.
Perhaps it was the "stupid, arrogant fools" part. :doh
He's talking about the Taliban isn't he?

In which case shouldn't you agree with Him?
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Oh ****! I misread that.

Yeah Mr. V.

I think they are braver souls then you. Not fools.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

He's talking about the Taliban isn't he?

In which case shouldn't you agree with Him?
That was my first thought, but it does not look like it. If that is how he meant it, then it is worded very poorly.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

FOXNews.com - Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim responsibility

Stupid arrogant fools. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families.

If we are not still fighting this war fifty years from now, it will be largely thanks to the humanitarian efforts of brave heroes like these; not because the Afghan people have been cowed into submission by Western tanks and guns, but because new leaders will remember how, as children, these kind, unarmed Western doctors sacrificed their lives to give them vision and health.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Ya'll still haven't figured out that he was talking about the Taliban? Nice!
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Ya'll still haven't figured out that he was talking about the Taliban? Nice!

No, we haven't.
That's because he wasn't.

FOXNews.com - Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim responsibility

Stupid arrogant fools. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families.

Here is his statement in its entirety.
Let's pretend for a minute that he was talking about the Taliban, shall we?
Let's see how that reads.

"Stupid arrogant Taliban! The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you Taliban are doing, you Taliban are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God (or Allah or whomever) comfort your Taliban families."

Nope. That doesn't quite work, does it? :doh

Now, let's suppose for a minute, just hypothetically of course, that the "you" Mr. Vicchio was addressing was the dead doctors.

"Stupid arrogant Western doctors. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families."


Bingo; we have a winner.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

No, we haven't.
That's because he wasn't.




Here is his statement in its entirety.
Let's pretend for a minute that he was talking about the Taliban, shall we?
Let's see how that reads.

"Stupid arrogant Taliban! The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you Taliban are doing, you Taliban are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God (or Allah or whomever) comfort your Taliban families."

Nope. That doesn't quite work, does it? :doh

Now, let's suppose for a minute, just hypothetically of course, that the "you" Mr. Vicchio was addressing was the dead doctors.

"Stupid arrogant Western doctors. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families."


Bingo; we have a winner.
Nice try.



The people who got Mr. Vic's comments wrong, are the very first ones to insult people for not being able to read. How sweet is that?!?
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Nice try.



The people who got Mr. Vic's comments wrong, are the very first ones to insult people for not being able to read. How sweet is that?!?
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

I find this comment offensive beyond my ability to express.
I find your being offended to be funny beyond my ability to express.

WTF people?

It's a war zone area rife with backward ass Islamic Extremist that take JOY in murdering non-Muslims.

So these YAHOO's go in there with this "We're helping people, they won't hurt us" mentality.

It's stupid to assume that your help will be appreciated. It's arrogant, to assume that good intentions can over come such vile hate and Foolish to believe that men so dedicated to their goal will be swayed by "Humanitarian" sentiments.

I hate seeing people lose their lives to such. The MISSION was worthy, the methods were not.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

FYI I was talking about the Missionaries.

They went backing packing around bandit country with nothing more then good intentions.

That's great in a FAIRY TALE, in RL it GET'S YOU KILLED.

Were' they brave? In their own way. Did they die needlessly? YES.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

I find your being offended to be funny beyond my ability to express.

WTF people?

It's a war zone area rife with backward ass Islamic Extremist that take JOY in murdering non-Muslims.

So these YAHOO's go in there with this "We're helping people, they won't hurt us" mentality.

It's stupid to assume that your help will be appreciated. It's arrogant, to assume that good intentions can over come such vile hate and Foolish to believe that men so dedicated to their goal will be swayed by "Humanitarian" sentiments.

I hate seeing people lose their lives to such. The MISSION was worthy, the methods were not.
Now, when you say "stupid" and "arrogant", you're referring to the Taliban, right?
You're saying the Taliban is stupid and arrogant.
You're not saying the dead doctors were stupid and arrogant, right?
You'd never suggest something like that, would you?
Because apdst has assured us you would not.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Now, when you say "stupid" and "arrogant", you're referring to the Taliban, right?
You're saying the Taliban is stupid and arrogant.
You're not saying the dead doctors were stupid and arrogant, right?
You'd never suggest something like that, would you?
Because apdst has assured us you would not.
And you're missing the point here.

The problem is that those people were too stupid to learn about it before they took the test or mission. I bet, they all had an army of researchers and coaches available to help them and they were either too stupid or too arrogant to prepare themselves for the inevitable.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

And you're missing the point here.

The problem is that those people were too stupid to learn about it before they took the test or mission. I bet, they all had an army of researchers and coaches available to help them and they were either too stupid or too arrogant to prepare themselves for the inevitable.
The word you're looking for is naive'. "They naively assumed their good intentions would see them through." A bigger question is why were they allowed to be in a war zone? People really ought to lose the word stupid. It can act like a reflecting pool sometimes.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

The word you're looking for is naive'. "They naively assumed their good intentions would see them through." A bigger question is why were they allowed to be in a war zone? People really ought to lose the word stupid. It can act like a reflecting pool sometimes.
I call it SSSD - Stupid Suicidal Strategy (by) Dumbasses.
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

Now, when you say "stupid" and "arrogant", you're referring to the Taliban, right?
You're saying the Taliban is stupid and arrogant.
You're not saying the dead doctors were stupid and arrogant, right?
You'd never suggest something like that, would you?
Because apdst has assured us you would not.
I'm sorry.. who are you and why do I need to bother to respond to this post with anything more then utter scorn?
 

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Re: Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim resp

The word you're looking for is naive'. "They naively assumed their good intentions would see them through." A bigger question is why were they allowed to be in a war zone? People really ought to lose the word stupid. It can act like a reflecting pool sometimes.
I DO hope people get that my comments are because I HATE TO SEE GOOD PEOPLE DIE. These were good people, they died stupidly, stupid deaths piss me off.
 
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