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Affilitation and Idealogy: Is there a point

FinnMacCool

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Everything seems to be so specific in terms of idealogy and party. It appears so many times its ridiculous. Anarchists with their 12 page "manuals" of rules to be followed. Does anyone see the irony in that?

What should be important isn't how to do something but the issues and causes which unite us towards the inevitable goal. Socialists, anarchists, progressives, and liberterians all have common interests, though they differ mostly in economic points (libertarians moreso then the former three). The fact that these groups share enemity is very annoying to me, particularily the anti authoritarian variety.

The social left should put their differences and work together to fight the social right. United we stand, divided we fall, you know? More is better then less. Does it really matter so much what flag we march under?
 

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Yeah, I really think it does matter. See, just because you share some goals, doesn't mean you have enough in common to act in concert. Sure, you might score some minor victories, but do you really think you have enough in common with a Libertarian to support them acheiving their goals?

Don't know where you figure I stand on whole left/right thing-- but except for "progressive" there wasn't a single group you listed that I'd support, and I'm willing to bet that your idea of progressive don't match mine. Yeah, we have a few things in common, but I think most of your agenda is too dangerous to support.

And I'm certain you'd feel the same way about mine.
 

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Everything seems to be so specific in terms of idealogy and party. It appears so many times its ridiculous. Anarchists with their 12 page "manuals" of rules to be followed. Does anyone see the irony in that?
Yes that is kind of funny, but an anarchist is one who advocates the abolition of the state, which doesn't necessarily mean order or rules. Also many times these are more of guidelines.
Socialists, anarchists, progressives, and liberterians all have common interests,
All three differ a lot. Socialists recognise the state as needed in a socialist society, but often want to limit its restrictions among its citizens. Progressives usually just want some progression in society and are usually capitalists. Anarchists just want the abolition of the state, and most are but not restricted to anti-capitalism. Libertarians too, recognise the state is needed in a capitalist society and want it to notrestrict its citizens, and are always capitalist, at least in the American sense.
The social left should put their differences and work together to fight the social right.
Many have tried that in ages past, the problem is that most groups or ideologies on the left-spectrum usually fight each other than their "common enemy", usually because each is so intent on proving ever which way is either "better" or "correct".
Does it really matter so much what flag we march under?
To some people it does.
 
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