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Advocates on Racist Names

Change all the names deemed offensive

  • Nope that's not the answer

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • Yep, it's about time

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • It doesn't really matter

    Votes: 5 33.3%

  • Total voters
    15
Seems like a symbolic gesture. It matters only as much as the gesture matters. Of course it won't solve real world issues. But it is a way to establish and normalize a cultural position on a subject that to this very day not enough Americans seem to fully support.
It has been a 158 year process, since The Emancipation Proclamation, similar to "denazification" in Germany, post WWII, abandoned due to denial fueled resistance. The federal "Juneteenth" national holiday legislation was not signed into law until
156 years after the news it commemorates the receipt of.

There is plenty of resistance to the attempts to dismantle American white supremacy and relegate its supporters to infamy instead of prominent public memorial. The problem is the victors write the history and it takes extra and meticulous effort to overcome that.

"...However, some of the almost 4,000 blacks who were lynched between 1882 and 1962 were lynched in settings that are appropriately described as picnic-like. Phillip Dray, a historian, stated: "Lynching was an undeniable part of daily life, as distinctly American as baseball games and church suppers. Men brought their wives and children to the events, posed for commemorative photographs, and purchased souvenirs of the occasion as if they had been at a company picnic." 2 Bray did not exaggerate. At the end of the 19th century, Henry Smith, a mentally challenged 17-year-old black male, was accused of killing a white girl. Before a cheering crowd of hundreds, Smith was made to sit on a "parade float" drawn by four white horses. The float circled numerous times before the excited crowd tortured, then burned Smith alive. 3 After the lynching the crowd celebrated and collected body parts as souvenirs.

Often the lynch mob acted with haste, but on other occasions the lynching was a long-drawn out affair with speeches, food-eating, and, unfortunately, ritualistic and sadistic torture: victims were dragged behind cars, pierced with knives, burned with hot irons or blowtorches, had their fingers and toes cut off, had their eyes cut out, and were castrated -- all before being hanged or burned to death. One Mississippi newspaper referred to these gruesome acts as "Negro barbeques." 4

In many cases -- arguably in most cases -- lynch mobs had a particular target and confined their heinous aggression to a specific person. Blacks were lynched for a variety of accusations, ranging from murder, and rape (often not true), to trying to vote, and arguing with a white man. In 1938, a white man in Oxford, Mississippi declared that it was "about time to have another lynching. When the niggers get so they are not afraid of being lynched, it is time to put the fear in them." 5 There were many blacks lynched randomly, to send a message of white supremacy to black communities. As noted by Dominic J. Capeci, a historian, when it came to lynching, "one black man served as well as another." 6.."

February 15, 1998
"...Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith were lynched in Marion, Ind., in 1930. I was at a postcard show in Florida when I came across a photograph of this lynching. The photo was mounted on a mat that rested in a large, ornate frame. A large lock of one victim's hair sits under the photo, which shows the two victims dangling from a tree. A man in the foreground of the photo points to the bodies. Scribbled on the bottom border of the photo are the words: "Bo pointn to his niga." These lynchings were ritualistic killings that often included torture and souvenir harvesting. Not only were hair, body parts and ashes collected, but sometimes parts of the lynching tree were taken, in addition to pieces of the victim's clothing.



Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith, August 7, 1930, photo by Lawrence Beitler

The lynchers were proud of what they did, so proud that they often posed in front of the cameras that recorded these festivals of violence. A post-lynching market frenzy of swapping and selling souvenirs sometimes flourished. Souvenir postcards were available for sale just hours after the gory event, not just in barrooms and back alleys but in drugstores, too. This barbaric commerce in lynching-related items had a strong impact on W.E.B. DuBois, who wrote:..."
 
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What's the downside of doing it?

You still haven't told me how it will be beneficial? It's only to appease a bunch of self-righteous goody-goodies.
 
Yep, the reason you hate liberals so much is the fish got its name changed. That's the reason for the division. Not the ****ing coup attempt.

You're the one here using hate. I don't hate anyone, only stupid ideas and actions.
 
What's the downside of doing it?
Honestly, if you wanna change an animals name, fine. But wouldn’t there be better ways to use those resources to actually combat the problem?
 
Honestly, if you wanna change an animals name, fine. But wouldn’t there be better ways to use those resources to actually combat the problem?

"Those resources?" What resources do you think are being expended here? Is the American Ornithological Society ignoring some other work of dire important that you think they're able to make headway on?
 
You still haven't told me how it will be beneficial? It's only to appease a bunch of self-righteous goody-goodies.
The benefit is that a few old, now-obscure racial slurs and other insults fade further into disuse, where they belong.
 
The benefit is that a few old, now-obscure racial slurs and other insults fade further into disuse, where they belong.

It's not as much about irrelevant censorship as it is about control.
 
It's not as much about irrelevant censorship as it is about control.

Control. Standard right wing victimization complex. Control? What, some government entity is going to come and punish you for inexplicably choosing to use the old name?

Control. Come on. Just pathetic whining.
 
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