Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Hicup said:

1.)Nope I got nothing. What should I have? Do I need to "bring it"?




Tim-

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AGENT J said:

:applaud

and your desperation continues :applaud

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do you have anything on topic, civil, honest, true, accurate, intelligent, logical or of merit you'd like to post?

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Hicup said:

1.)Why do you keep applauding? Did you win something?





How about this for on topic. Nobody wins on an internet message board. Hate to break it to ya. We call it debate politics for a reason. It's because everything is debatable. That means that yes we can present facts that back up a certain point but we cannot prove our overall point because of the variables involved. A fact, is a collective agreement on past events, and what was true about them. We can never say that we were right only that we agreed we were right. When one learns that debate isn't so much about wining than it is about learning then they can progress past mere superficial contact.


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AGENT J said:

1.)Im applauding your giving it the good ol try even though its a losing battle its great entertainment,. GOOD JOB!
2.) this would be true except when multiple posts post FACTS that destroy your posts and prove them wrong :shrug:
You are correct, debate is debate but often many posters just factually prove you wrong, like CC does and its hilarious.

now again i ask do you have anything on topic?

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Hicup said:

tehehehe... Funny you mention CC..


Tim-

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Mason66 said:

On the top of the list

.5) Weakness

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Conservative said:

Your support for gay and lesbian activity is your choice but it opens up other areas that simply show the hypocrisy of others and that is my point. where does it stop? Why not a brother, sister, uncle, aunt, grandmother, grandfather? A very small minority of this country is gay and yet it is a very vocal minority and the question is why? You don't like the laws, change them, I believe 12 states have and if the others do it, then so be it, maybe the celebration of a non normal activity will get less public attention. I do not support gay marriage because I believe in traditional marriage as a union between a man and a woman. That is my belief, yours is different. I have no problem with a civil union but why is the title marriage so important you same sex couples?

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DVSentinel said:

Ok, first problem in that study. Sampling.

Was not a random, blind sampling on the part of homosexuals. All participants were part of an organization that "which has as its stated purpose the development of a homosexual ethic in order to better integrate the homosexual into society." So they were part of an organization whose purpose was to control behavior. Further, certain segments of society were excluded. Also, because it was from an organization that practiced and taught control of behavior, it cannot be presumed, as the author seems to have done, that they represent natural occurring behaviors for the qualifying group.

The heterosexual sampling was also from organizations, but since they are undisclosed, we have no data on what they focused upon nor were they from the same organization as the homosexuals.

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clownboy said:

Well then, if left alone, the problem takes care of itself.

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Now, what does all this have to do with a silly B actress who decides to do her big announcement for publicity?

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clownboy said:

So then why is their suicide rate higher?

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Hicup said:

Which, as the good Cap'n left out, is the most widely (although psychologists like to place a number of associated disorders along with them) associated reason for suicide. It's not just gays that kills themselves, it's gays, and heteros, and fat people and ugly people, good looking people, blah blah blah people who have OTHER issues not related to their outer or inner selves.

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clownboy said:

Only when you spend all your time redefining words. Normal has a meaning.

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clownboy said:

Yes, especially if you said "very small percentage" instead of "certain percentage". However, if you said that homosexuality was normal sexual behavior you'd be wrong.

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clownboy said:

Ah, the seven stages of grief. Let us know when you get to anger and bargaining.

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clownboy said:

Okay, so the proper response to that would be to do as OD did and take the position that the normality of the behavior is irrelevent to the discussion. NOT to attempt to justify the behavior as "normal".

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Conservative said:

Nor do you, society defines what is normal and that may differ from what individuals think is normal. The gay and lesbian community is a very small minority in this country with a very vocal leadership and it is a leadership that is going to generate an outcome that they aren't going to like when a Constitutional Amendment is forced upon them defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

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DVSentinel said:

So a sociopath that is happy and functional does not suffer from a mental illness? Really?

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You might do a medical search on the effects of anal penetration, of both male and females, not strictly homosexuals, it can cause distress and dysfunction. As a minimum it causes tearing, that is how HIV gets into the system of male homosexuals. Otherwise there would be no blood to blood or semen to blood conduit for it to pass.

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Conservative said:

Exactly, we are a nation of laws and trying to make everything a civil right is something that will force the silent majority to speak up

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DVSentinel said:

Which can lead to, not always. Not all sociopaths engage in antisocial behavior or disregard the rights of others. Do you have any proof that all sociopaths do?

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So it exist outside of desires and impulses which are controlled by the Brain? Desire to participate in activities known to cause physical injury to others is not abnormal behavior? Knowing that longterm engagement in such acts can cause permanent injury to others is not abnormal?

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Mr.Nick said:

Well then why do progressives continue to call non-progressives, racists, homophobes, war on woman, war on blacks etc...

I'm not generalizing or making anything up - progressives are the ones making outlandish accusations without any evidence to support their claims.

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CaptainCourtesy said:

Your slippery slope argument is just that... an illogical slippery slope argument. Your comment about "traditional marriage" is an appeal to tradition logical fallacy. That's two in one paragraph. If you have no issue with a civil union, then I'm SURE you have no problem with ALL marriages, including heterosexual ones being called civil unions, right?

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CaptainCourtesy said:

Firstly, even YOU admit that normal is subjective... as you did in your first sentence. And secondly, those who are against SSM are now in the minority and they aren't going to like it when a Constitutional Amendment is forced upon them defining marriage as a union between any two consenting adults regardless of sex or sexual orientation.

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CaptainCourtesy said:

Right now, the majority support SSM.

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ttwtt78640 said:

Homosexuality is no less "normal" than being left handed or having blue eyes. Simply having a non-dominant trait does not make something not "normal" it just makes it not an average or a majority trait. Different is not always wrong - get over it.

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