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Academia vs Joe Sixpack

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Sorry the average person is pretty retarded I wouldn't trust them with anything complicated and important. Dumb/average people have a place though and they have equal rights, some jobs require dumb people, and sometimes it's not a good thing to be too smart.
 


WOW! You really had problems in college didn't you?


My experience was somewhat different, I must say. I had professors who were knowledgeable and communicated the class subject in ways that we could comprehend, I had professors who were knowledgeable yet were unable to teach and I had a couple of profs who followed their political ideology more than the subject they were supposed to be teaching.

This nonsense that "all college professors are liberal know it alls" is nothing more than garbage. Academics are humans, there are great ones, there are good ones, there are mediocre ones, there are bad ones and there are a few who should not be allowed into a classroom with human students -- but every time I read something like the following: "professors are the worst case of people developing in childish conditions" I know that the person writing such a statement rather obviously did not have a good experience in university, for whatever reason.
 

The whatever reason is probably they didn't attend a university or attended a bad community college (not all CC are bad), which I don't think really counts.
 
Trying to avoid the main issue I have? The university is an obsolete aristocratic institution (the term "prep school" means prepare for college). In a society that needs class mobility in order to survive, one based on worth not birth, this relic of the Middle Ages must be replaced with highly paid professional education.

The professors not only go through even more years of this childish, depressing, and insulting indentured servitude than their captive students, they also teach in an unnatural atmosphere. Students, desperate for infallible father figures to justify their stunted growth, do not challenge these academics, which isolates them in a mentally incestuous cult with their fellow academics. If the students were paid, the professors would acquire some humility about their sheltered thinking and realize their proper place as educational servants. To promote the present spoiled and conceited ilk to public service can only lead to our domination by theoretical fantasies thought up by those whose academic positions as Masters of Indentured Servitude make them feel the same way about the public.
 

Or never went to college and as a result doesn't know about it except what the right wing nuts cakes tell him.

My experiences were very simlar to yours. College is where I grew up because the atmosphere academic and social gave me the chance to grown out of my singular view of the world into a more expanded view of life.

College is 40% education and 60% socialization
 
following an earlier attack on university professors, the "academic elites", I posted the following


I have cut part of the reply to my comment but the remainder is sufficient to show a complete and utter lack of knowledge about university education, it does nothing but reinforce my earlier statement.


Yeah - I really 'enjoyed' the daily task of correcting the notes and report my PhD Chemistry boss submitted to our superiors - the man was a good chemist and a decent supervisor but he couldn't write three words without mis-spelling two of them.

Far too many "highly-paid professionals" are unable to communicate with anyone outside of their profession, far too many of these "highly-paid professionals" have zero knowledge of the world outside of their chosen profession and often exhibit a weird willingness to accept the most absurd beliefs simply because they don't know enough to realise the absurdity.

Yes, we need engineers and chemists and physicists and computer scientists, just like we need attorneys and car salesmen and postal carriers, and all of them and all of the rest of us need to learn about stuff outside of our narrow little workaday world. Being really good at one very specific task does not automatically make a person a qualified citizen, does not create a person who should be telling other people how to do their jobs.
 
How could you grow up if you were living like a teenager and barely scraping by on part-time jobs? You're just trying to justify sacrificing your youth by claiming it made you mature.
 
How could you grow up if you were living like a teenager and barely scraping by on part-time jobs? You're just trying to justify sacrificing your youth by claiming it made you mature.

How could you possibly know what my life experiences were before or after. Were you there? Please stop placing your values and views into my life I don't do it to you and you have no right to do it to me. I meant exactly what I said and there is no way for you to know one way or the other.
 
Yeah - I really 'enjoyed' the daily task of correcting the notes and report my PhD Chemistry boss submitted to our superiors - the man was a good chemist and a decent supervisor but he couldn't write three words without mis-spelling two of them.

And so he got a spelling monkey. Identified a problem, identified a solution, enacted solution, seems all rather fit to me.


This door swings both ways. Though can you quantify this "far too many highly-paid professionals are unable to communicate..."? Or is it something that you've made up?


The intellectual, the academic, may not have all knowledge under their belt; but what they have demonstrated further than most others is the ability to think, adapt, and understand.
 
People who are honest, humble, and actually give a damn about America's future and well-being.
 
Academia no doubt....
 
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