Absolutely Amazing Isn't It? This Bad Economy.................

[Campbell]

I didn't want to know, nor did I ask about your political history. I asked why you, who is against wealthy people holding political office, voted for Obama, a very wealthy man? Why didn't you vote for a poor person?

You just don't get it do you? I vote against the Republican party. I used to work in every election, everything from county sheriff to dog catcher.....phone calls, door to door, placing signs etc. Beginning in 1984 I didn't even go to the polls for twenty years. Whoever is on the Republican side I will do what I can to see their asses lose. That's a promise. When old standards go out the window so rich people can get richer everyone should notice it....not just me:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Tax Rates Slashed To Depression Levels) Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

[The Man]

So then why did you vote for Obama? He's a rich guy with a lot of Republican ideals, such as tax cuts for the rich, corporate bailouts and legislation that benefits big business. Why are you for that when there is a D next to the guy's name, and against it when there is an R next to the guy's name? You just don't make any sense. If you have ideals and principles, stick to them.

 

[Campbell]

So then why did you vote for Obama? He's a rich guy with a lot of Republican ideals, such as tax cuts for the rich, corporate bailouts and legislation that benefits big business. Why are you for that when there is a D next to the guy's name, and against it when there is an R next to the guy's name? You just don't make any sense. If you have ideals and principles, stick to them.

You don't get it do you? I will vote for a rock before I'll ever vote Republican again. They represent corporations and the wealthy. The Bush bunch told 935 lies to get us into Iraq and 4500 dead young Americans were sacrificed so Cheney could rake off $25 million from his stock in Halliburton. That's a fact.

 

[The Man]

You don't get it do you? I will vote for a rock before I'll ever vote Republican again. They represent corporations and the wealthy. The Bush bunch told 935 lies to get us into Iraq and 4500 dead young Americans were sacrificed so Cheney could rake off $25 million from his stock in Halliburton. That's a fact.

But rocks aren't wealthy, so you voting for a rock would make more sense for you by your ideals that you post on here. Obama is wealthy, you voting for him makes no sense, because you say that you don't like wealthy people holding office. Will Obama's daughters enlist in the military and go to war when they're of age? Democrats represent corporations and the wealthy every bit as much as Republicans do, and you know it.

 

[Campbell]

But rocks aren't wealthy, so you voting for a rock would make more sense for you by your ideals that you post on here. Obama is wealthy, you voting for him makes no sense, because you say that you don't like wealthy people holding office. Will Obama's daughters enlist in the military and go to war when they're of age? Democrats represent corporations and the wealthy every bit as much as Republicans do, and you know it.

Are you nuts? I've already explained to you that his opponent earned over twice as much in taxable year 2011 than Obama's total worth. Some people just don't get it. Lately most of them are Republicans. Keep it up. We will beat your ass like a dirty rug and you will still be watching Fox News religiously.....pun intended.

 

[The Man]

Are you nuts? I've already explained to you that his opponent earned over twice as much in taxable year 2011 than Obama's total worth. Some people just don't get it. Lately most of them are Republicans. Keep it up. We will beat your ass like a dirty rug and you will still be watching Fox News religiously.....pun intended.

You said that you don't like wealthy people in office, now you're changing your story. Now you're saying that you don't like wealthy people in office, unless they're a Democrat. Are you senile? Lol

And beat who's ass? I'm not a Republican, nor do I watch Fox News.

 

[Campbell]

You said that you don't like wealthy people in office, now you're changing your story. Now you're saying that you don't like wealthy people in office, unless they're a Democrat. Are you senile? Lol

And beat who's ass? I'm not a Republican, nor do I watch Fox News.

All the people in politics are rich. Guess when it got real bad? In the late 40's a corporate executive made about 12-15 times what a plumber or carpenter earned. By the 70's that multiplier had risen to 100 times as much In 2012 the average corporate executive made 450 times what their employees earned. Not only that....guaranteed over time, pensions, vacation. etc. have all but disappeared. Having corporations and the wealthy running everything is like putting a fox up to guarding the hen house:

 

[The Man]

Having corporations and the wealthy running everything is like putting a fox up to guarding the hen house.

I agree, but then why would you vote for Obama? That's not practicing what you preach. Why didn't you vote for a candidate who isn't wealthy and who doesn't stick up for and cater to corporations, even if you have to write one in?

 

[Campbell]

I agree, but then why would you vote for Obama? That's not practicing what you preach. Why didn't you vote for a candidate who isn't wealthy and who doesn't stick up for major corporations, even if you have to write one in?

I've told you twice but you still don't seem to get it. From now on I'll be voting against Republicans even if the Democrats run a groundhog.

 

[The Man]

I've told you twice but you still don't seem to get it. From now on I'll be voting against Republicans even if the Democrats run a groundhog.

You've told me why, but your reasoning makes no sense to what you preach. Republicans, Democrats, they really are one in the same in this day and age. You just don't see it.

 

[Campbell]

You've told me why, but your reasoning makes no sense to what you preach. Republicans, Democrats, they really are one in the same in this day and age. You just don't see it.

I was reasonable when I voted for the Republicans for thirty years. Back then they stood for balanced budgets, small government and individual liberty. Beginning with Reagan they've all gone to hell in a hand basket. Again...One More Time, I'll never vote that way again if I live to 100.

You people have lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections. If you don't make some serious changes you'll never see another Republican president. You listen to the absolute biased reporting from Fox News. They had Romney winning by a landslide....LMAO!

 

[Fenton]

You just don't get it do you? I vote against
the Republican party. I used to work in every election, everything from county sheriff to dog catcher.....phone calls, door to door, placing signs etc. Beginning in 1984 I didn't even go to the polls for twenty years. Whoever is on the Republican side I will do what I can to see their asses lose. That's a promise. When old standards go out the window so rich people can get richer everyone should notice it....not just me:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Tax Rates Slashed To Depression Levels) Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Lol !!

Still posting Debt numbers minus Obama's 7 trillion Campbell.

Did you add Obama's spending and his " stimulus" into George Bush's 2009 budget this time ?

And under Obama, what's the unemployment rate for black males ?

Up or Down ? Poverty rate ? Up or Down ?

Labor participation rate ? Full time jobs ? Middle class shrinking or growing ?

 

[The Man]

I was reasonable when I voted for the Republicans for thirty years. Back then they stood for balanced budgets, small government and individual liberty. Beginning with Reagan they've all gone to hell in a hand basket. Again...One More Time, I'll never vote that way again if I live to 100.

You people have lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections. If you don't make some serious changes you'll never see another Republican president. You listen to the absolute biased reporting from Fox News. They had Romney winning by a landslide....LMAO!

Again, I'm not a Republican and I never watch or listen to Fox News (though apparently you do), so I'm not one of those "you people" that you refer to. Democrats aren't any better than Republicans though. They're all corporate whores who couldn't care less about the average citizen. I'm not sure why you think Democrats are somehow any better? It's just not rational thinking.

 

[Campbell]

Lol !!

Still posting Debt numbers minus Obama's 7 trillion Campbell.

Did you add Obama's spending and his " stimulus" into George Bush's 2009 budget this time ?

And under Obama, what's the unemployment rate for black males ?

Up or Down ? Poverty rate ? Up or Down ?

Labor participation rate ? Full time jobs ? Middle class shrinking or growing ?

The annual interest on the Reagan/Bushes debt was $455 billion the first year Obama had a budget. His spending is minute compared to both Reagan and the Bushes:

 

[Fenton]

The annual interest on the Reagan/Bushes
debt was $455 billion the first year Obama had a budget. His spending is minute compared to both Reagan and the Bushes:

Yep, there you go again.

You've posted that stupid lie of a chart before.

And again, in the end in 4 and a halfbyears Obama has increased our debt by 7 TRILLION.

But whats worse is the fact that his entire economy is a house of cards thats propped up with Fed printing.

He can't actually run a economy so he'll perpetuate a lie.

Typical Liberal scum. Am I right ?!?!

So post the chart again with stimulus " re-assigned" to Obama, the same chart that lumps his massive spending in 2009 on Bush's 2009 budget and then attributes that spending to Bush.

Is it that hard for you to be honest ?

 

[Campbell]

Yep, there you go again.

You've posted that stupid lie of a chart before.

And again, in the end in 4 and a halfbyears Obama has increased our debt by 7 TRILLION.
But whats worse is the fact that his entire economy is a house of cards thats propped up with Fed printing.

He can't actually run a economy so he'll perpetuate a lie.

Typical Liberal scum. Am I right ?!?!

So post the chart again with stimulus " re-assigned" to Obama, the same chart that lumps his massive spending in 2009 on Bush's 2009 budget and then attributes that spending to Bush.

Is it that hard for you to be honest ?

That's a goddamned Fox News bare faced lie. The debt was $11,909,829,003,511.75 when Bush's last budget ended and if you subtract the annual interest Obama's budgets had to include which were due on the Reagan/Bushes debt his spending is almost insignificant compared to his Republican predecessors. You people live in an isolated bubble and tell each other the same stories, none of which contain the truth. Do you think that Obama ending one Bush war and throttling down the other didn't cut spending? Take your head out of your ass and get a breath of fresh air and a little truth:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Tax Rates Slashed To Depression Levels) Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

 

[Fenton]

That's a goddamned Fox News bare faced lie. The debt was $11,909,829,003,511.75 when Bush's last budget ended and if you subtract the annual interest Obama's budgets had to include which were due on the Reagan/Bushes debt his spending is almost insignificant compared to his Republican predecessors. You people live in an isolated bubble and tell each other the same stories, none of which contain the truth. Do you think that Obama ending one Bush war and throttling down the other didn't cut spending? Take your head out of your ass and get a breath of fresh air and a little truth:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Tax Rates Slashed To Depression Levels) Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

You're the only one in here lying Campbell.

What's wrong, you cant support your twosted world view without being honest ?

I mean look at what you wrote, " when Bush's 2009 Budget ended". You're using that as a starting point for Obama's spending.

Even though Obama added a MASSIVE amount of spending to Bush's 2009 Budget.

You

 

[Fenton]

That's a goddamned Fox News bare faced lie. The debt was $11,909,829,003,511.75 when Bush's last budget ended and if you subtract the annual interest Obama's budgets had to include which were due on the Reagan/Bushes debt his spending is almost insignificant compared to his Republican predecessors. You people live in an isolated bubble and tell each other the same stories, none of which contain the truth. Do you think that Obama ending one Bush war and throttling down the other didn't cut spending? Take your head out of your ass and get a breath of fresh air and a little truth:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Tax Rates Slashed To Depression Levels) Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

You're the only one in here lying Campbell.

What's wrong, you cant support your twosted world view without being dishonest ?

I mean look at what you wrote, " when Bush's 2009 Budget ended". You're using that as a starting point for Obama's spending.

Even though Obama added a MASSIVE amount of spending to Bush's 2009 Budget.

Including over 400 million in Omnibus AND Stimulus, which your idiotic chart fails to add to Obama's tally.
What's wrong ? Can't defend your President without posting Bull sh** wrapped in lies ?

I have another idea.

You can post thar same dipsh** list and chart again. It wont convince anyone but yourself.

 

[Campbell]

You're the only one in here lying Campbell.

What's wrong, you cant support your twosted world view without being dishonest ?

I mean look at what you wrote, " when Bush's 2009 Budget ended". You're using that as a starting point for Obama's spending.

Even though Obama added a MASSIVE amount of spending to Bush's 2009 Budget.

Including over 400 million in Omnibus AND Stimulus, which your idiotic chart fails to add to Obama's tally.
What's wrong ? Can't defend your President without posting Bull sh** wrapped in lies ?

I have another idea.

You can post thar same dipsh** list and chart again. It wont convince anyone but yourself.

Keep it up...you've lost the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections.

I can prove my position with facts and you people say **** that only a fool would believe. Explain to me how Obama's spending is supposed to be so much worse than the warmongering Republicans. He completely shut down one unfunded war and has already throttled another. I know it's a special problem for you because you immediately ignore facts and move on to your next spouting of rank manure. That's all the nation hears from Fox News and the Republicans these days...a spouting of rank manure.

 

[sawyerloggingon]

There comes a point when automobiles have to be replaced, it is cheaper to buy a new one than maintain an old one, especially in fleets.

 

[Campbell]

There comes a point when automobiles have to be replaced, it is cheaper to buy a new one than maintain an old one, especially in fleets.

Damn shame we can't bring back the 4500 young Americans who were killed in Bush's unnecessary war in Iraq. There were also about 35,000 seriously wounded. I might also mention that he was the first U S president in our history to borrow from Communist Chinese banks. He doubled the national debt after assuming a balanced budget with surpluses projected to the out years. Absolutely the worst president I've seen in my lifetime but of course I'm just 79.

 

[Fenton]

Keep it up...you've lost the popular vote in
five of the last six presidential elections.

I can prove my position with facts and you people say **** that only a fool would believe. Explain to me how Obama's spending is supposed to be so much worse than the warmongering Republicans. He completely shut down one unfunded war and has already throttled another. I know it's a special problem for you because you immediately ignore facts and move on to your next spouting of rank manure. That's all the nation hears from Fox News and the Republicans these days...a spouting of rank manure.

And you elected a incompetent narcisist who's made the lives of the American middle class exponentially worse .

And you're proud of that...LOL !! Ok.

 

[Campbell]

And you elected a incompetent narcisist who's made the lives of the American middle class exponentially worse .

And you're proud of that...LOL !! Ok.

You can laugh out loud all you want to but I have a question for you. If the president was so bad for America why couldn't you find anybody who could even stay close to him when he was re-elected big time in the middle of the Bush recession.....which happens to be the worst in 60 years?

OBAMA.....332
ROMNEY...206

 

[KLATTU]

. That's what it's all about. Rich people know they need to keep the masses out of college because most of their kids couldn't compete if everyone was entitled to a college education. .

So everybody is 'entitled' to a colleg education?
Well, I guess that's actually he situation we're in now.
And when everybody has a degree nobody has degree. You know what a college degree gets you in Obamaworld? The air conditioned pizza delivery truck!

Heckuva job libs!!!

 

[Campbell]

So everybody is 'entitled' to a colleg education?
Well, I guess that's actually he situation we're in now.
And when everybody has a degree nobody has degree. You know what a college degree gets you in Obamaworld? The air conditioned pizza delivery truck!

Heckuva job libs!!!

LOL....I got my education at a nuclear weapons facility and a two year course in electronics. After 25 years with the company I was serving as project manager coordinating the activities of numerous maintenance personnel and all disciplines of engineering while completing 8-14 month long projects which cost from $5 million to $11 million. I was involved in everything from the original procurement bid processes(RFP) to final testing for acceptance using DOE standard procedures.

Just think what I might have done with a real education.