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Abramoff Guilty - Up to 20 congressmen will be indicted

Billo_Really said:
The lesser of two evils is still evil.

It is the fault of every American citizen 18 and older. It is the fault of the American voter that puts these people in office. They can't do anything unless we put them in the position to do so.

Umm what's a better alternative? I'd say Libertarian but there's to many nut job anarchists in our party and the socialists would never go for it anyways.

I think that the Republican and Democratic parties are by and large the most representative of their constituencies For example: the Republicans have many anarcho-capitalist tendencies yet they still believe in Social Programs, the Democrats have alot of Socialist tendencies yet they still favor Capitalism at their core.

So basically what I'm trying to say is that when you considered the bigger scheme of things as to the whole array on the political spectrum, socialism on the far left and libertarian on the far right, then the Democrats and the Republicans are right in the middle except the Reps lean slightly to the right and the Dems lean slightly to the left and normally they would do an ok job of balancing eachother out as long as neither one of them leans to far to one side of the spectrum and tips the scale in favor of the other side.

Unfortunately, I think that this is exactly what has happened with the Democrats. They have strayed way to far to the left and that's why they can't win any elections and since they've strayed so far left that through a forced perspective the Republicans only look like they've leaned right by comparison when in actuality it's not the Republicans who have shifted but it is in fact the Democrats.

Socialists-Democrats-Republicans-Libertarians
 
Originally posted by Trajan Octavian Titus:
Umm what's a better alternative? I'd say Libertarian but there's to many nut job anarchists in our party and the socialists would never go for it anyways.

I think that the Republican and Democratic parties are by and large the most representative of their constituencies For example: the Republicans have many anarcho-capitalist tendencies yet they still believe in Social Programs, the Democrats have alot of Socialist tendencies yet they still favor Capitalism at their core.

So basically what I'm trying to say is that when you considered the bigger scheme of things as to the whole array on the political spectrum, socialism on the far left and libertarian on the far right, then the Democrats and the Republicans are right in the middle except the Reps lean slightly to the right and the Dems lean slightly to the left and normally they would do an ok job of balancing eachother out as long as neither one of them leans to far to one side of the spectrum and tips the scale in favor of the other side.

Unfortunately, I think that this is exactly what has happened with the Democrats. They have strayed way to far to the left and that's why they can't win any elections and since they've strayed so far left that through a forced perspective the Republicans only look like they've leaned right by comparison when in actuality it's not the Republicans who have shifted but it is in fact the Democrats.

Socialists-Democrats-Republicans-Libertarians
I wasn't speaking in terms of political parties. I was speaking in terms of the American voter. If we wan't a better govenment, we have to be a better society.
 
Billo_Really said:
I wasn't speaking in terms of political parties. I was speaking in terms of the American voter. If we wan't a better govenment, we have to be a better society.

Exactly. These politicians don't just come out of nowhere, they're representative of the populace as a whole. We can't be a society full of scumbags and expect saints to be elected.
 
Originally posted by RightatNYU:
Exactly. These politicians don't just come out of nowhere, they're representative of the populace as a whole. We can't be a society full of scumbags and expect saints to be elected.
Even though you're from NY, I completely agree.
 
Billo_Really said:
This is the formula. The only way to get a better government, is if we become a better society.

P.S. I like your sig. What is that? Uzi-cat? Machine Gun Kitty?

I believe the 'Kitty' is firing off an AK-47 or Ak-74 assault rifle.
But, it definitely isn't a 'machine gun.'
 
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