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About Trump's Parade

The military parade scheduled for June 14th is.....


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The Constitution is ineffective if the Chief Executive fails to enforce/follow laws and judicial rulings.
Then Trump should be sued and the Supreme Court should get involved. That's how a Constitutional Democracy works.
 
If there was a crime committed by the Trump Administration when funding the parade, then someone should file a lawsuit. You know the Dems are not shy about filing a suit through one of the slanted Federal judges ready to attack Trump.
You didn't read the excerpt I copied and pasted, did you?

...Federal regulations prohibit the use of public office for the private gain of officeholders or their friends, relatives or nongovernmental affiliates, said Richard W. Painter, who served as the chief ethics lawyer in the White House Counsel’s Office under President George W. Bush.

“The parade is being used for advertising by these entities with close business ties to the president,” Mr. Painter said in an interview. “You’re in a situation where the U.S. government has been used to endorse a product.”

If he had been Mr. Trump’s chief ethics lawyer, he added, he would have not wanted the sponsorships at all. Such an arrangement would be acceptable only if the companies were to pay for the entire event, Mr. Painter said, allowing the government to host the celebration without paying any tax dollars. The military parade was estimated to cost up to $45 million...

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If you're comfortable with the Chief Executive's apparent violation of "Federal regulations", all you have to do is say so.
 
Pyrite said:
The Constitution is ineffective if the Chief Executive fails to enforce/follow laws and judicial rulings.

Then Trump should be sued and the Supreme Court should get involved. That's how a Constitutional Democracy works.
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Right here you tacitly acknowledge you are comfortable with the President's failure to enforce/follow laws and judicial rulings.


AND you've conveniently ignored the critical bit about the President's ignoring judicial rulings.
 
If the Opposition believes Trump violated "federal regulations" then we should be seeing another lawsuit filed, right?
We are a nation of laws. If Trump broke a law, he can be sued.
 
So you are concluding that all is lost because you believe "the Chief Executive is failing to enforce/follow laws and judicial rulings."
What do we do now? Impeach Trump? Vote him out of office?
 
If the Opposition believes Trump violated "federal regulations" then we should be seeing another lawsuit filed, right?
We are a nation of laws. If Trump broke a law, he can be sued.
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I repeat:

You tacitly acknowledge you are comfortable with the President's failure to enforce/follow laws and judicial rulings.


AND you've conveniently ignored the critical bit about the President's ignoring judicial rulings.


Pyrite said:
The Constitution is ineffective if the Chief Executive fails to enforce/follow laws and judicial rulings.
 
Not many showed up to do so...
I'm not disputing the comment. I do have a related comment someone may be able to clear up for me.

My understanding is that the parade route was declared a secure area. Admission was by tickets acquired prior to the start of the parade. True or not?

Those wanting to attend the Army's 250th birthday parade can register for tickets now, although they are limited. A week-long celebration will culminate on Saturday, June 14 with a two-hour "Army Birthday Parade," which coincides with Trump's birthday. -- Northjersey.com
 
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The better question is, why aren't you doing something about it? Why do you defend a man who would subvert the Constitution, something he swore to uphold, if only he could get away with it?
 
The better question is, why aren't you doing something about it? Why do you defend a man who would subvert the Constitution, something he swore to uphold, if only he could get away with it?

When Trump does something good, like stop illegal immigration at the southern border which Biden was incapable of doing, then I will acknowledge that.
I think you are admitting Trump would subvert the Constitution "if only he could get away with it".

SO, based on what you wrote, he hasn't subverted anything yet. He is pushing the envelope of presidential power. Everyone knows that. All you're doing is simply stating the obvious.

It is sad there are so many anti-Trumpers who want the duly elected president to fail while we are faced with a number of foreign threats from powerful foreign adversaries. But that appears to be par for the course with so many ankle biters who swarm here wanting to see the president demeaned and heckled as he tries to do his job.
 
He would subvert the Constitution if he could.

You are okay with that.
 
He would subvert the Constitution if he could.

You are okay with that.
And I would win the state lottery If I could.
Give us more hypotheticals showing us what Trump would do if he could.
That's an appropriate waste of time for anti-Trumpers who have nothing better to do than throw rocks at the duly elected president.
 
And I would win the state lottery If I could.
Give us more hypotheticals showing us what Trump would do if he could.
That's an appropriate waste of time for anti-Trumpers who have nothing better to do than throw rocks at the duly elected president.
So now you're saying you would cheat to win the lottery if you could get away with it?

Did you swear an oath to protect the lottery? Donald swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.

You have conceded Donald has tried to subvert the Constitution. And here you are defending him with "BUH BUH BUH HE DIDN'T GET AWAY WITH IT SO IT'S ALL GOOD!"

In all seriousness - WTH has Trump done to American conservatives that they meekly shrug at that?
 
I thought king taco preferred McD's.
He is not picky about his choice of "great American food."



 
Nothing I wrote indicated I would or could cheat to win the lottery. Just like Trump becoming president, I would win the lottery fair and square if I picked the right numbers.

I swore an oath decades ago to defend the Constitution and obey military law. Has Trump been convicted of violating the Constitution? Or have you already convened your kangaroo court and declared him guilty because you said so?
 
Did you, or did you not concede that Donald made an attempt to violate the Constitution?

Forget your talismans of "he didn't get away with it," and "he was duly elected." Did he attempt to break his oath?
 
Did you, or did you not concede that Donald made an attempt to violate the Constitution?

Forget your talismans of "he didn't get away with it," and "he was duly elected." Did he attempt to break his oath?
You think it's my call to determine if Trump violated the Constitution? Don't we have various levels of jurisdiction to determine that?
I'm not like the majority of posters here who rant and rail against Trump because they are frustrated with last year's election results.
DO you concede Biden (and idiot Mayorkas) violated the Constitution by choosing not to enforce federal immigration laws by allowing millions of illegal aliens into our country?
 
Has Trump been convicted of violating the Constitution? Or have you already convened your kangaroo court and declared him guilty because you said so?

FFS, yes!

When SCOTUS rules he has violated the constitution, that's what that means.

There's no trial or conviction, there are rulings and court orders.
 
FFS, yes!

When SCOTUS rules he has violated the constitution, that's what that means.

There's no trial or conviction, there are rulings and court orders.
Which SCOTUS ruling was that?
And did Trump defy that ruling?
 
Which SCOTUS ruling was that?
And did Trump defy that ruling?

Keep those goal post warmed up, you might need to move them again. He's NOT ALLOWED to defy court order, is he?

There are plenty of examples, but here's one that's pretty straight-forward.

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Keep those goal post warmed up, you might need to move them again. He's NOT ALLOWED to defy court order, is he?

There are plenty of examples, but here's one that's pretty straight-forward.

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The Trump Administration did "facilitate" Garcia's release from El Salvador. He is back in the U.S.now.
What's your problem with that?
There was no violation of the Constitution.
Go bark up another tree.
Did you ever watch Wylie Coyote chase the Road Runner?
You need to get smarter.


The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate”
Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to
ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had
he not been improperly sent to El Salvador. The intended
scope of the term “effectuate” in the District Court’s order
is, however, unclear, and may exceed the District Court’s
authority.
 
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