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Abortion - is it about Murder or Slavery? (1 Viewer)

How can it be slavery if you are killing the slave? Doesn't seem too productive if you ask me.

Anyway, your link is bad.

p.s. I can think of a third possibility of what abortion is. Can you?
 
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A child developing in your womb is yours to do with what you will up right up to the point where courts have decided it suddenly becomes more than property.
 
Well, whether you consider abortion murder or not, how do you arrive at "slavery?" How does that even make sense?
 
Navy Pride said:
Abortion is legal murder.
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Dude...how many times do we have to go over this?
'Murder' is the unlawful taking of a person's life. You can't have a 'legal unlawful'.
It's also a group of crows, which are not illegals, just crows...(heh, ill eagles, get it?):mrgreen:
 
ngdawg said:
Dude...how many times do we have to go over this?
'Murder' is the unlawful taking of a person's life. You can't have a 'legal unlawful'.
It's also a group of crows, which are not illegals, just crows...(heh, ill eagles, get it?):mrgreen:
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I call it government authorized or legal murder......
 
Navy Pride said:
I call it government authorized or legal murder......
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Then....if by some miracle you get knocked up....dont have an abortion....problem solved.
 
tecoyah said:
Then....if by some miracle you get knocked up....dont have an abortion....problem solved.
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Come on my liberal buddy, I thought I was on your ignore list.........Damn!!!!

Oh nad unlike you I have some compassion for the innocent, defenseless, baby in the womb that only wants the same chance at life you got.......
 
Navy Pride said:
I call it government authorized or legal murder......
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You can call it Timex but that wouldn't make any more sense that what you're saying now. There can't be 'legal murder'. Now, say something new, please...your repetitious one-noted statements are nowhere near debate. We got it...you're mistaken in your use of words, but we got it...
 
ngdawg said:
You can call it Timex but that wouldn't make any more sense that what you're saying now. There can't be 'legal murder'. Now, say something new, please...your repetitious one-noted statements are nowhere near debate. We got it...you're mistaken in your use of words, but we got it...
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Well I am glad you finally got it because to me it is Legal Murder..........
 
It's about killing in order to prevent slavery. It can't be considered murder because the victim isn't a person under our laws. It is killing, and the deaths are worth it to preserve freedom. If you don't believe that life must sometimes be sacrificed to preserve freedom, then you should be arguing that this country never should have fought the American Revolution; abortion is a minor issue compared to all the crap that has come about because of that decision.
 
CoffeeSaint said:
If you don't believe that life must sometimes be sacrificed to preserve freedom, then you should be arguing that this country never should have fought the American Revolution; abortion is a minor issue compared to all the crap that has come about because of that decision.
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It's not about not believing that life must sometimes be sacrificed. It's about questioning whether or not "I don't want a baby" and the inconvenience of 9 months out of a womens life qualifies for one of those times when life must be sacrificed.

War has nothing to with abortion but whatever.....

Slavery also has nothing to do with abortion. No one is suggesting that the fetus should own the mother but whatever......
 
talloulou said:
It's not about not believing that life must sometimes be sacrificed. It's about questioning whether or not "I don't want a baby" and the inconvenience of 9 months out of a womens life qualifies for one of those times when life must be sacrificed.
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It is exactly about that: should a child's life be more important than a woman's freedom? That is the question at the heart of the debate. It isn't a matter of how hard a woman's life might be during pregnancy; many house slaves had very easy lives. But they were not free, and when slavery was eliminated, the issue was not whether a slave's life was convenient or inconvenient; the issue was whether the slave could choose his or her own path in life. A ban on abortion would remove a woman's ability to choose her own path in life, and that makes it equivalent to slavery. Not chattel slavery, certainly, since she does not become a commodity that could be bought or sold, but slavery in that she does not have control over her own body. Perhaps "imprisonment" would be a better term than slavery.

talloulou said:
War has nothing to with abortion but whatever.....
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Murder has nothing to do with it either, so make sure you throw one of those "whatever's" Navy Pride's way.

talloulou said:
Slavery also has nothing to do with abortion. No one is suggesting that the fetus should own the mother but whatever......
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Ooh! TWO whatever's? Now I done got served, yo.

The fetus doesn't own the mother, the fetus controls the mother. It requires that she live her life for it, rather than for herself; if she chooses to make that sacrifice, all well and good. If she does not choose to make that sacrifice, forcing it on her is equivalent to slavery -- or imprisonment, forced labor, indentured servitude; pick a different term, I'm easy. But whatever term you pick needs to reflect the fact that she loses control over her own body and over her own life; so "inconvenience" simply won't cut it.

Maybe we should go with "Whatever." Abortion is just an issue of whatever.
 
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