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A very informative lecture of Rabbi Kahane

Isn't Kahane one of those racists? Kind of like the Jewish equivalent of S t o r m f r o n t?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Isn't Kahane one of those racists? Kind of like the Jewish equivalent of S t o r m f r o n t?
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Find a racist comment of him regarding Arabs and let us all know.

Does he express racist comments against Arabs in this video?
 
I guess you were unaware of this information.

The face of Jacob said:
Find a racist comment of him regarding Arabs and let us all know.
Does he express racist comments against Arabs in this video?
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I guess you were unaware of this information.

MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base
Kach is a Jewish nationalist extremist group in Israel founded by the late Rabbi Meir Kahane.

Rooted in extremist Jewish ideology, Kach sought to restore the Biblical land of Israel by annexing all the disputed territories of Israel and forcibly removing all Arabs. Preaching the motto of "terror against terror," Kach openly espoused violence against Arabs and actively participated in anti-Arab activities in Israel. As part of its extremist ideology, the group also espoused violence against the Israeli government. In the mid 1970s, Kahane sought to transform Kach into an organized political party, running twice unsuccessfully for the Israeli Knesset. In 1984, Kahane was successfully elected to the Knesset. However, in 1988, Israeli law was amended to forbid racist groups from participating elections, effectively barring Kach from the political scene.

Current Goals: Despite the assassination of Rabbi Kahane in 1990, the Kach movement, and its closely affiliated splinter group, Kahane Chai, remained active in Israel. Kach has vehemently opposed the peace process, threatening and using violence against both Arabs and Israeli government officials. Following the signing of the Oslo peace accords between Israel and the PLO in 1994, a Kach supporter killed 29 people in a mosque in Hebron. As a result of this attack, Israel formally outlawed Kach and designated it as a terrorist organization. Despite its being outlawed, Kach continues its anti-Arab activities within Israel. While the group has not officially claimed many attacks since being outlawed, Kach praises and supports any violence against Arabs.
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AFAICT, the main difference between Kach and Aryan Nation et al is who their mothers were. If the moms were Jewish, then they joined Kach, if they were 'white' they joined Aryan Nation.
 
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Simon W. Moon said:
I guess you were unaware of this information.

MIPT Terrorism Knowledge Base
Kach is a Jewish nationalist extremist group in Israel founded by the late Rabbi Meir Kahane.

Rooted in extremist Jewish ideology, Kach sought to restore the Biblical land of Israel by annexing all the disputed territories of Israel and forcibly removing all Arabs. Preaching the motto of "terror against terror," Kach openly espoused violence against Arabs and actively participated in anti-Arab activities in Israel. As part of its extremist ideology, the group also espoused violence against the Israeli government. In the mid 1970s, Kahane sought to transform Kach into an organized political party, running twice unsuccessfully for the Israeli Knesset. In 1984, Kahane was successfully elected to the Knesset. However, in 1988, Israeli law was amended to forbid racist groups from participating elections, effectively barring Kach from the political scene.

Current Goals: Despite the assassination of Rabbi Kahane in 1990, the Kach movement, and its closely affiliated splinter group, Kahane Chai, remained active in Israel. Kach has vehemently opposed the peace process, threatening and using violence against both Arabs and Israeli government officials. Following the signing of the Oslo peace accords between Israel and the PLO in 1994, a Kach supporter killed 29 people in a mosque in Hebron. As a result of this attack, Israel formally outlawed Kach and designated it as a terrorist organization. Despite its being outlawed, Kach continues its anti-Arab activities within Israel. While the group has not officially claimed many attacks since being outlawed, Kach praises and supports any violence against Arabs.
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AFAICT, the main difference between Kach and Aryan Nation et al is who their mothers were. If the moms were Jewish, then they joined Kach, if they were 'white' they joined Aryan Nation.
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You didn't answer my request:

Find a racist comment of him regarding Arabs and let us all know.
Does he express racist comments against Arabs in this video?

A Kach supporter didn't kill 29 people. Nobody was in the place where the killing was. The one who been ascribed as the killer never expressed thoughts to do the killing. He was a doctor and prayed at Mearat Hamachpela, and also Muslims pray in this place (in a different room there).

It could be that they tried to take his weapon or to kill him.
 
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The face of Jacob said:
You didn't answer my request:

Find a racist comment of him regarding Arabs and let us all know.
Does he express racist comments against Arabs in this video?
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You didn't answer my request:

Isn't Kahane one of those racists? Kind of like the Jewish equivalent of S t o r m f r o n t?
 
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Simon W. Moon said:
You didn't answer my request:

Isn't Kahane one of those racists? Kind of like the Jewish equivalent of S t o r m f r o n t?
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I eddited my post above and answered you COUPLE OF TIMES.

I don't know what stormfront is. I guess it's a Nazi organization. Do you compare Nazis who want to kill innocent people like Jews to people who don't want to give up to our enemies?

The organization of Kahane NEVER called for killing of Arabs.
 
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The face of Jacob said:
I eddited my post above and answered you COUPLE OF TIMES.

I don't know what stormfront is. I guess it's a Nazi organization. Do you compare Nazis who want to kill innocent people like Jews to people who don't want to give up to our enemies?

The organization of Kahane NEVER called for killing of Arabs.
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Though in the video he did call for an ethnic cleansing campain against them. Im surprised the hate speah rule doesnt apply to this. Even so it proves my point that extremism, bigotry and fundamentalism exist on BOTH sides of the arab-isreali conflict.
 
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Red_Dave said:
Though in the video he did call for an ethnic cleansing campain against them. Im surprised the hate speah rule doesnt apply to this. Even so it proves my point that extremism, bigotry and fundamentalism exist on BOTH sides of the arab-isreali conflict.
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Where in the movie did he said that?

BTW, most of Israelis call for the explusion of Arabs (who are our ENEMIES) from the one small only Jewish state.
 
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The face of Jacob said:
I don't know what stormfront is.
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A racist organization.

The face of Jacob said:
Do you compare Nazis who want to kill innocent people like Jews to people who don't want to give up to our enemies?
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Comparing racists to racists.

The face of Jacob said:
The organization of Kahane NEVER called for killing of Arabs.
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There's just a conspiracy in the Israeli govt to frame the group as a terrorist organization? (Because the Israeli govt are anti-semites too?)
Is that it?
 
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Red_Dave said:
Flipping heck are you deaf? he said the arabs should be made to leave on several ocasions throughout the video.
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First you said that he call for an ethnic cleansing campain (which is a genocide) and now you say that he said that Arabs should be made to leave.

I see you are a very fixed person.

I ask you again: where did he call for an ethnic cleansing?
 
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The face of Jacob said:
First you said that he call for an ethnic cleansing campain (which is a genocide) and now you say that he said that Arabs should be made to leave.

I see you are a very fixed person.

I ask you again: where did he call for an ethnic cleansing?
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So we,re agreed that he said that the arabs should be forced to leave? that by definition is ethnic cleansing.
 
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Simon W. Moon said:
There's just a conspiracy in the Israeli govt to frame the group as a terrorist organization? (Because the Israeli govt are anti-semites too?)
Is that it?
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You are wrong. The Israeli government NEVER framed that group as a terrorist organization.
 
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Red_Dave said:
So we,re agreed that he said that the arabs should be forced to leave? that by definition is ethnic cleansing.
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You didn't answer my question.

That is another proof that I won every debate that I had with you.

You are the weakest link.

Goodbye.
 
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The face of Jacob said:
You are wrong. The Israeli government NEVER framed that group as a terrorist organization.
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Since they werenm't framed, they actually ARE terrorists then, is that what you're saying?
 
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The face of Jacob said:
You didn't answer my question.

That is another proof that I won every debate that I had with you.

You are the weakest link.

Goodbye.
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Well if his constant claims the arabs should be kicked out of isreal are not enough around 44.33/105:38 he says "im constantly impressed by a palestinian who speaks of the observance of law, international law". He is blatently insulting that guy on THE BASIS of his race.
 
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Red_Dave said:
So we,re agreed that he said that the arabs should be forced to leave? that by definition is ethnic cleansing.
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First I ask you to find me where he said that.

Secondly, this is not ethnic cleansing at all, and it's clear that you don't understand what an ethnic cleansing is.

The Arabs in Israel are not innocent, they are not the Jews in UK 300 years ago that your former king exiled.

The Arabs in Israel are our enemy, they support our enemies, they identify with them, THEY HELP THEM, they are an enemy to the state.

We have all the right to call for them to get out of our country.

And most of the Israelis support that move as I showed in a poll in my former posts.

But I guess your dream is that Israel will be full with Arabs, am I correct?
 
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The face of Jacob said:
How come you think that I say that they are terrorists?
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Because you say they were not framed.
If they weren't framed, then it must be a true charge.

"Western Democracy and Zionism are at odds."
--Kahane


Yet another source for the claim that the Israeli govt declared them to be terrorists

Background Information on Foreign Terrorist Organizations
Kahane Chai a.k.a. Kahane Lives, the Kfar Tapuah Fund, The Judean Voice, The Judean Legion, The Way of the Torah, The Yeshiva of the Jewish Idea, KOACH

Description: Stated goal is to restore the biblical state of Israel. Kach (founded by radical Israeli-American rabbi Meir Kahane) and its offshoot Kahane Chai, which means "Kahane Lives," (founded by Meir Kahane's son Binyamin following his father's assassination in the United States) were declared to be terrorist organizations in March 1994 by the Israeli Cabinet under the 1948 Terrorism Law. This followed the groups' statements in support of Dr. Baruch Goldstein's attack in February 1994 on the al-Ibrahimi Mosque--Goldstein was affiliated with Kach--and their verbal attacks on the Israeli Government.
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Around 18:30 he says that no regard should be shown for the lives of civilians.
What schmutz! That's one of THE defining characteristics of terrorist.
 
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Red_Dave said:
Well if his constant claims the arabs should be kicked out of isreal are not enough around 44.33/105:38 he says "im constantly impressed by a palestinian who speaks of the observance of law, international law". He is blatently insulting that guy on THE BASIS of his race.
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No, you continue not to answer my questions.

105:38 is the end of the movie, I didn't hear him saying that but I believe you regarding the quote that you gave (I'm gonna check it later on cause usually I don't believe a word of yours).

What he said about Palestinians and the law is not a racist comment (only morons may think it is, or anti-semite Europeans who feel balme for the holocaust and now they try to blame the Jews for being Nazis to the Arabs) and it's not insulting at all. The Palestinians, as a society, wish that all Jews would be destroyed, he was completely correct.

The only insulting in all of that are the Palestinians themselves that as a society they support the murder of Jews.

Another insulting thing is people like you who distort the history on the back of the Jews.

And I want to remind you that you didn't answer my questions!
 
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