A Turning Point For Democrats?

[Chappy]

Excerpted from “A Turning Point For Democrats? IT'S TOO EARLY TO SAY FOR SURE, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE REPUBLICAN WAVE HAS SUBSIDED.” by Charlie Cook, The National Journal Magazine, Saturday, July 31, 2010
[SIZE="+2"]F[/SIZE]or the weeks of July 12-18 and July 19-25, the Gallup Organization's weekly aggregation of daily tracking polls showed Democrats ahead among all registered voters on the generic congressional ballot test question by 6 points (49 percent to 43 percent) and 4 points (48 percent to 44 percent), respectively. …

Gallup noted that this was the first time that either party has held an advantage of this size for two consecutive weeks. In the 21 weeks that Gallup has asked the generic ballot test question this year, the two parties have averaged a tie. …

What we are looking for is whether either party breaks out of that range [49 percent to 43 percent] and begins to consistently record an advantage, with "consistently" certainly defined as more than two weeks in a row. …

For now, people will have to just sit tight, wait for next week's Gallup release, and watch how other reputable pollsters weigh in.

The headline asks the question, is this a turning point for Democrats? Well, is it, punk? … I mean … What do you think, a turning point?

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Excerpted from “Democrats Maintain Advantage on Generic Ballot, 48% to 44%; Republicans continue to be more enthusiastic about voting” by Frank Newport, GALLUP, July 26, 2010
[SIZE="+2"]D[/SIZE]emocrats have a 48% to 44% advantage for the week of July 19-25 in Gallup tracking of registered voters' preferences for the 2010 congressional elections. This marks the second straight week in which Democrats have held an edge of at least four percentage points.

Although Republicans have moved to a four-point or higher advantage on three separate occasions, this is the first time either party has held an advantage of that size for two consecutive weeks. Republicans and Democrats have been tied on average across the 21 weeks of Gallup's tracking.

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[Chappy]

I think so. Democrats are rolling out their new “The Republican Tea Party Contract on America” reminding Americans about failed Bush-era initiatives (e.g., privatizing Social Security) and radical Tea Party proposals (e.g., ending Medicare). Combined with the Republicans resistance to further government economic stimulation and unemployment compensation extensions while pushing for budget busting tax extenders for the rich, Americans see the Republicans have nothing good to offer.

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Excerpted from “DNC plan tries to tie Republican Party to fringe 'tea party' elements” By Philip Rucker, Washington Post Staff Writer, The Washington Post, Wednesday, July 28, 2010; 6:27 PM
[SIZE="+2"]A[/SIZE]mong the items are some that are supported by the Republican congressional leadership, such as repealing the health-care overhaul and extending Bush-era tax cuts. But many of the items -- including ending Medicare, repealing the 17th Amendment that provides for the direct election of senators, and abolishing the departments of Education and Energy and the Environmental Protection Agency -- have only been endorsed by select candidates or lawmakers not part of the party leadership.

 

[upsideguy]

The headline asks the question, is this a turning point for Democrats? Well, is it, punk? … I mean … What do you think, a turning point?

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Yes. The American people are too smart to buy into a party that has no ideas other than just say "no". Just say "no" can be a winner, but only if you really have a clear and coherent message, which the Republicans lack. Moreover, the Republicans have been substantially taken over by a radical wing, which plays well inside of the party, but will not win the hearts and minds of the independents, who decide elections. That said, the opposition party always gains seats in the off-year elections, as they will this year, but I doubt either house changes is color

 

[apdst]

Yes. The American people are too smart to buy into a party that has no ideas other than just say "no". Just say "no" can be a winner, but only if you really have a clear and coherent message, which the Republicans lack. Moreover, the Republicans have been substantially taken over by a radical wing, which plays well inside of the party, but will not win the hearts and minds of the independents, who decide elections. That said, the opposition party always gains seats in the off-year elections, as they will this year, but I doubt either house changes is color

I think the more likely reality is that the American people are getting tired of a party that says, "yes", to everything, no matter how stupid and counter productive it may be.

 

[Objective Voice]

Politics are cyclical by nature. When the People start losing confidence in one side's ability to govern on their behalf they naturally turn to the other party. While some believe this is the case in the current political atmosphere, the reality is the very problems that Republicans are now claiming are important issues this nation faces, the Democrat party is the party trying to do something about it. Republicans may not like how things are getting done, but they had their chance to do something about health care, Medicare cost, immigration reform, finance reform, campaign finance reform, tax reform, etc., etc., but they did nothing except maintain the status quo.

The People aren't stupid. I'm sure that once folks are able to filter out the "noise" and get the facts for them instead of relying on information exclusively from one side of the political spectrum or the other they'll make the right decision come November.

 

[Conservative]

Dems Face Ethical Trials as November Elections Loom

As Rep. Maxine Waters and Rep. Charlie Rangel face high-profile ethics trials, the midterm election outlook for Democrats becomes bleak as they battle to keep control of the House.


Chappy, please tell us what Obama has done that has made this country better economically and safer because I cannot find anything in 18 months.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25710

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

I think the more likely reality is that the American people are getting tired of a party that says, "yes", to everything, no matter how stupid and counter productive it may be.

That was actually a pretty good counterpoint, apdst.

 

[Conservative]

Chappy, interesting that I have seen nothing from you that offers any reason to re-elect Democrats unless you believe 16 million unemployed Americans, massive growth in the size of the govt, 3 trillion added to the debt, implementation of a healthcare program that does nothing to improve the quality of or increase the quantity of healthcare, and create greater dependence on the govt. is reason to vote Democratic.

Stop buying the rhetoric and actually offer something of substance.

 

[Renae]

A turning point? Are you kidding? One polling source, Gallup, shows a slight up for the Dem's.

HOLY HELLS REPUBLICANS!!! It's ALL OVER!!!

Puh-LEASE. Spare us the DNC Talking point that this article is. I'll tell you what this article was, and is. It was written to try, once again, to raise the spirits of the Dem Voter. There has been no positive momentum for the Dems since their high about 0-3 Months since Obama's election. The Dem's are pushing for higher taxes, cap and trade, greater spending, more regulation as reasons to vote for them. The results of the last, really 4 years of the Dem's holding the House and Senate have been economic stagnation and recession, high unemployment and the passing of unpopular life altering legislation. The FinReg and Obamacare. Both hang as albatross around their necks.

The anti-incumbent sentiment in the country has in no way diminished. There is buyers remorse for many that were so excited to elect a "Black man" President. He has been by all measures, an utter failure as a leader, with the exception that he DID get some big legislation through. That such will sink his part in 2010 and will help kick him out of the WH in 2012 makes one have to alter the term "success". His Administration has been marred by poor judgment, badly selected advisors (Van Jones for example), racial failings, incomeptence and a level of aloofness towards the people that staggers the mind. How many vactions, big parties at the WH, golf outings has he been apart of to this point?

Let's not forget the level of Congressional Approval is at an all time low. Nancy P. will hold that gavel only a short while longer, the Dem's will be out big in 2010, and O goes in 2012.

The turning point for the Dem's came when they elected Obama, it's been downhill fast eversince.

 

[randel]

A turning point? Are you kidding? One polling source, Gallup, shows a slight up for the Dem's.

HOLY HELLS REPUBLICANS!!! It's ALL OVER!!!

Puh-LEASE. Spare us the DNC Talking point that this article is. I'll tell you what this article was, and is. It was written to try, once again, to raise the spirits of the Dem Voter. There has been no positive momentum for the Dems since their high about 0-3 Months since Obama's election. The Dem's are pushing for higher taxes, cap and trade, greater spending, more regulation as reasons to vote for them. The results of the last, really 4 years of the Dem's holding the House and Senate have been economic stagnation and recession, high unemployment and the passing of unpopular life altering legislation. The FinReg and Obamacare. Both hang as albatross around their necks.

The anti-incumbent sentiment in the country has in no way diminished. There is buyers remorse for many that were so excited to elect a "Black man" President. He has been by all measures, an utter failure as a leader, with the exception that he DID get some big legislation through. That such will sink his part in 2010 and will help kick him out of the WH in 2012 makes one have to alter the term "success". His Administration has been marred by poor judgment, badly selected advisors (Van Jones for example), racial failings, incomeptence and a level of aloofness towards the people that staggers the mind. How many vactions, big parties at the WH, golf outings has he been apart of to this point?

Let's not forget the level of Congressional Approval is at an all time low. Nancy P. will hold that gavel only a short while longer, the Dem's will be out big in 2010, and O goes in 2012.

The turning point for the Dem's came when they elected Obama, it's been downhill fast eversince.

better put the kool aid down, and take a step back....your post reeks of wishful thinking at this point....still several months to mid terms, and alot can happen in that time....

 

[Renae]

better put the kool aid down, and take a step back....your post reeks of wishful thinking at this point....still several months to mid terms, and alot can happen in that time....

LOL! I'm the koolaide drinker? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Chappy posts and fantasy opiion piece and you accuse ME of wishful thinking?

 

[randel]

LOL! I'm the koolaide drinker? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Chappy posts and fantasy opiion piece and you accuse ME of wishful thinking?

why do you say what he posted is fantasy?....seems to be the trend from what i'm seeing, the dems are closing the gap, and this election doesnt look like it will be the bloodbath the repubs are hoping for.

 

[Renae]

why do you say what he posted is fantasy?....seems to be the trend from what i'm seeing, the dems are closing the gap, and this election doesnt look like it will be the bloodbath the repubs are hoping for.

Randel, yeah right.

One article, based on one poll...

Real "trend there".
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Generic Congressional Vote

Check it out. ONLY Gallup has the Dem's up

EVERY OTHER POLL has the GOP up from +2 to +11.

You accuse me of wishful thinking why again?

 

[randel]

Randel, yeah right.

One article, based on one poll...

Real "trend there".
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Generic Congressional Vote

Check it out. ONLY Gallup has the Dem's up

EVERY OTHER POLL has the GOP up from +2 to +11.

You accuse me of wishful thinking why again?

like i said, wishful thinking at this point...we still have over 3 months till election time...an eternity.

 

[Chappy]

… http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25710

Who knew Phyllis Schlafly was still alive? Too funny. You didn't even bother to quote anything from her opinion hit job. It's pathetic.

 

[FilmFestGuy]

LOL! I'm the koolaide drinker? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Chappy posts and fantasy opiion piece and you accuse ME of wishful thinking?

Chappy posted the opinion of one of the most respected election prognosticators in the business who says the Republican wave is subsiding.

You merely rant and rave.

Maybe THIS is why people don't like the Tea Party? Perhaps a group of people who can't tell a joke from reality have no place leading our "revolution"?

 

[Conservative]

better put the kool aid down, and take a step back....your post reeks of wishful thinking at this point....still several months to mid terms, and alot can happen in that time....

Randel, back at it, I see, one line comments that actually say nothing. All I ever see from you are diversions from the Obama agenda. Tell us what Obama has done that has made this country economically better and also safer. As pointed out on other threads we have 16 million unemployed Americans, declining GDP, 3 trillion added to the debt and yet you are the one continuing to drink the kool-aid. Appears you are the typical obama cult follower

 

[MSgt]

Conservatives put us in a hole. Liberals employed a construction digger to make it deepe. Where do you turn in a two party system of idiots? Maybe we should all just pray and go radical.

 

[FilmFestGuy]

Randel, back at it, I see, one line comments that actually say nothing. All I ever see from you are diversions from the Obama agenda. Tell us what Obama has done that has made this country economically better and also safer. As pointed out on other threads we have 16 million unemployed Americans, declining GDP, 3 trillion added to the debt and yet you are the one continuing to drink the kool-aid. Appears you are the typical obama cult follower

Let's see - since his inauguration, the stock market is up from 7929 to 10,465 or an increase of nearly 32%.

The job creation index is at 11 now - it was at -1 when Obama took office: Gallup Daily: Economic Indexes

Things are far from perfect; but everyone who is reasonable knows that the recovery from this collapse is going to take quite some time - years to get anywhere near normal. In fact, odds are "Normal" is never coming back.

The only way to spark the economy is to start thinking dynamically. That's where Obama has slipped up, I think.

The stimulus should have been spent on building new and improved infrastructure upon which private industry could thrive and grow. For instance, the government invented ARPAnet, which eventually became the internet, which eventually led to hugely successful industries that employ millions of Americans. We should be creating a new power grid that supports both old energy and new energy. We should be spending out way out of this in a much smarter manner than we are. On that, I agree.

But things are better now than they were in 2008, it's just going to take several more years for them to get better. Company profits are up and they're hoarding cash. We must incentivise them into spending it in ways that create job growth and spur demand. All I see from Republicans are policies that will continue to support them hoarding their cash and continuing the constant cycle of money spiraling ever upward to the top 1-10% wealthiest Americans that began in earnest in the early 2000s. Hoarding harms the nation. I'm not against the wealthy being wealthy - but tax policy should reward hiring and investment and should punish hoarding by taxing interest on cash holdings at a rate that basically makes the interest near negative. This will force the "trickle down" that Conservatives seem to so adore.

 

[LizardofOz]

Here is the thing about this, Mitch McConell the senator from my home state can't even keep his own party in check, instead of getting the golden boy he wanted, he was handed Rand Paul, a total nut who hasn't even been in the state for over 5 years. His competitor, and ultimately who will likely take Jim Bunning's seat is current Attorney General of Kentucky Jack Conway (D).

Then you have that crazy lady in Nevada going up against Reid. Then you have the fact that anybody that Half-Term Palin promotes will immediately polarize themselves even amongst other conservative voters. The hilarious part about this is, Republicans conveniently have a plan later this year when (they think) they will win some more seats.

How could anyone vote for these people when they intentionally sit around with their thumbs in their ass until they get their way? If more Democrats get rough and angry like Anthony Wiener, they should have no problems at all.

 

[Conservative]

FilmFestGuy;1058891017]Let's see - since his inauguration, the stock market is up from 7929 to 10,465 or an increase of nearly 32%.

So, let's see, when it suits you the stock market is a barometer of how good the economy is? What affect do you believe 16 million unemployed Americans has on corporate expenses thus profits?Where you equally as excited when Bush had a 14000 stock market?

The job creation index is at 11 now - it was at -1 when Obama took office: Gallup Daily: Economic Indexes

There are 7 million less employed today than when Obama took office, bls.gov and you think that is a success? 16 million unemployed or an increase of over 4 million since the stimulus plan took effect and that is a success to you?

Things are far from perfect; but everyone who is reasonable knows that the recovery from this collapse is going to take quite some time - years to get anywhere near normal. In fact, odds are "Normal" is never coming back.

A collapse that apparently Bush created all by himself? Tell us why taxpayers fund Congressional Representatives if it is the President that creates all legislation and unilaterally implements economic policy? Do you realize, probably don't care, but the Democrats controlled Congress and helped get us into this recession. Now with the same Congress and a Democrat empty suit in the WH they have made things worse, higher debt and higher unemployment. Where is your outrage?

The only way to spark the economy is to start thinking dynamically. That's where Obama has slipped up, I think.

Obama doesn't understand the economy nor do his book smart, street stupid Ivy League educated advisors. We have a public sector economy that is being destroyed and the results speak volumes, but Obama supporters never really cared about results.

The stimulus should have been spent on building new and improved infrastructure upon which private industry could thrive and grow. For instance, the government invented ARPAnet, which eventually became the internet, which eventually led to hugely successful industries that employ millions of Americans. We should be creating a new power grid that supports both old energy and new energy. We should be spending out way out of this in a much smarter manner than we are. On that, I agree.

The stimulus plan was designed to be spent on shovel ready projects but instead has been spent to bail out unions and other Democrat constituent groups. Jobs saved or created cannot be quantified but unemployment can.

But things are better now than they were in 2008, it's just going to take several more years for them to get better. Company profits are up and they're hoarding cash. We must incentivise them into spending it in ways that create job growth and spur demand. All I see from Republicans are policies that will continue to support them hoarding their cash and continuing the constant cycle of money spiraling ever upward to the top 1-10% wealthiest Americans that began in earnest in the early 2000s. Hoarding harms the nation. I'm not against the wealthy being wealthy - but tax policy should reward hiring and investment and should punish hoarding by taxing interest on cash holdings at a rate that basically makes the interest near negative. This will force the "trickle down" that Conservatives seem to so adore.

After spending over a trillion dollars, taking over GM/Chrysler shouldn't things be better. Companies are hoarding cash because they have lower expenses now due to fewer workers thus higher profits and a fear of higher corporate taxes as well as healthcare costs.

We live in a free enterprise, capitalistic economy that Obama doesn't understand. The results speak for themselves.

 

[Conservative]

Who knew Phyllis Schlafly was still alive? Too funny. You didn't even bother to quote anything from her opinion hit job. It's pathetic.

Why don't you check out the other sites that was posted on. I picked the first one. Like all liberals you ignore the content to attack the messenger. Unfortunately for you there are too many messengers to attack.

 

[Conservative]

Here is the thing about this, Mitch McConell the senator from my home state can't even keep his own party in check, instead of getting the golden boy he wanted, he was handed Rand Paul, a total nut who hasn't even been in the state for over 5 years. His competitor, and ultimately who will likely take Jim Bunning's seat is current Attorney General of Kentucky Jack Conway (D).

Then you have that crazy lady in Nevada going up against Reid. Then you have the fact that anybody that Half-Term Palin promotes will immediately polarize themselves even amongst other conservative voters. The hilarious part about this is, Republicans conveniently have a plan later this year when (they think) they will win some more seats.

How could anyone vote for these people when they intentionally sit around with their thumbs in their ass until they get their way? If more Democrats get rough and angry like Anthony Wiener, they should have no problems at all.

Anthony Wiener? LOL, that guy is one of the biggest socialists in the country and a true nutjob yet he is a hero to you? Think that gives you credibility? stop buying the rhetoric, the House of Representatives has a huge advantage to the Democrats yet Wiener attacks Republicans. Democrats can pass whatever they want and don't need a single Republican vote yet you buy what Wiener says. That just goes to show how out of touch with reality Obama supporters are. Some people should really be disqualified from voting.

 

[LizardofOz]

Well this is a perfect example of why Congress has such a low approval rating. They did the 2/3s thing because Republicans were just going to keep stalling, Wiener believed the King guy would actually have been able to convince his Republican buddies to vote on helping people that helped in 9/11, instead they didn't because it would have probably cut into their pals profits.

Republicans did what Republicans will constantly do; they overcomplicated a very straight forward vote for their own party, and if you really think that Republicans come out looking like they are on top on this one then well, wow.

 

[randel]

Randel, back at it, I see, one line comments that actually say nothing. All I ever see from you are diversions from the Obama agenda. Tell us what Obama has done that has made this country economically better and also safer. As pointed out on other threads we have 16 million unemployed Americans, declining GDP, 3 trillion added to the debt and yet you are the one continuing to drink the kool-aid. Appears you are the typical obama cult follower

ah conservative....i see you have had a relapse since our last encounter.....this thread isnt about obama, its about the midterms...get with the program!!