Pretender said:
Asking me how many children I have adopted is of no real relavence the abortion issue. I do think if you pregnaunt you should have the baby and give it for adoption if necessary. However, because I say this, am I required to abopt one? No.
That is an INCREDIBLY hypocritical position. YOU want to put more kids into the system already overburdened with kids waiting for adoptions, yet you refuse to do anything to alleviate that burden. That is a shameful position.
There are several families who can't have children who should look into adoption.
"Should" they? So once again, the burdens of your wishes fall on others? The woman "should" carry to term, and others "should" adopt the kids. What SHOULD you do? Nothing other than push your unique brand of morality on everybody else? Why must everybody else bear the cost of your policies and you shouldn't?
Also, in order to prevent over crowding...
It already IS overcrowded. There were as recently as 5 years ago more than 100,000 kids awaiting adoption, with about 20-40,000 added every year and about 35,000 adopted every year. I don't know if you can do the math, but it should be clear to you that there are lots of kids that NEVER get adopted even under our current level of over-crowding.
And now you propose to add another 800,000 +/- kids to the list and pretend that they will get adopted? That is an insane argument. The number of families seeking to adopt is minimal compared to the number of abortions you want to change into adoptions.
.. in orphanages we need to educate people on sex, and how to have it safely. They need to know the consequences.
Absolutely. We need MUCH BETTER sex ed at a much more timely schedule, a process unfortunately, that many prolifers object to, thus further hypocritically adding to the problem.
And we need much greater support for the women who are pregnant, so they may see a way to manage going through the pregnancy without seeing a need to abort. Unfortunately, those programs are being cut by the conservative fundie politicians, the same ones who oppose abortion, a clear demonstration of how thoroughly hypocritical they are, seeing the woman as nothing but "welfare queens" while denying them access to an abortion, thus further binding them in poverty and bondage.
And then when the kid is born, and the woman seeks help, she once again is being denied the help buy the same politicians who now also see the kid as a "welfare leech." The hypocrisy, the double standard is astonishing. It shows what true scumbags so many of these prolife policy makers truly are.
It shows that their main goal is NOT to reduce the number of abortions, but rather to oppress the woman.
YES, the women know the consequenses of pregnancy. They know it makes them a target for conservative, fundie theocratic oppression and misogyny.
Until you change that, women will abort. They will not voluntarily submit to your prolife slavery.