A Study into the Mind Expanding Qualities of 'Magic Mushrooms' (1 Viewer)

[Libertine]

Some of those who have study Psychology or are old enough to remember him, will be familiar with the work of a Psychologist named Dr Timothy Leary. For those who are not aware of him, Timothy Leary was a psychologist who experimented extensively with the active ingredient in LSD and Magic Mushrooms to explore alternative states of consciousness and to probe the human Psyche to quite extrodenary effect. In his own words Leary describes his studies thus…

“A psychedelic experience is a journey to new realms of consciousness. The scope and content of the experience is limitless, but its characteristic features are the transcendence of verbal concepts, of space-time dimensions, and of the ego or identity. Such experiences of enlarged consciousness can occur in a variety of ways: sensory deprivation, yoga exercises, disciplined meditation, religious or aesthetic ecstasies, or spontaneously. Most recently they have become available to anyone through the ingestion of psychedelic drugs such as LSD, psilocybin, mescaline, DMT, etc. Of course, the drug does not produce the transcendent experience. It merely acts as a chemical key - it opens the mind, frees the nervous system of its ordinary patterns and structures.” - Timothy Leary 1964

In honour of the ground braking (and now illegal) work of Leary I will be conducting my own qualitative study into the potentially mind expanding qualities of Magic Mushrooms. As part of the experiment I will enter into an alternative state of consciousness by taking a large quantity of magic mushrooms (or the legal equivalent Iblogaine if the site moderators do not wish members of the site to be involved in an illegal study) whilst listening to classic rock such as Zeppelin and Hendrix. Once an alternative state of consciousness is entered I will then answer questions asked by members of this site on any subject of their choosing. This will be done via MSN instant messenger. A transcript of the session will then be posted on line for discussion and debate.

The experiment will not take place for at least two weeks so in the mean time please feel free to ask any questions or make any comments you may have regarding this study…

Thanx for your time and support, Libertine

 

[ngdawg]

Once in an 'alternative state of consciousness', you won't remember to go to your IM services.:mrgreen: And if you do, the keys will most likely do really strange things.

 

[Libertine]

@ngdawg
until quite recently Magic Mushrooms were legal in and were freely available to purchase at a market near where i live. As such I have extensive experience in entering alternative states of consciousness and can confidently predict i will be able to answer your questions via MSN...However! wether or not the answers i provide will make any sense is an antirely different matter.

thanx for your input, Libertine

 

[taxedout]

Neurotransmitter antagonists are mind expanding ?

Alzheimers patients have trouble with insufficient neurotransmission too.

 

[alphieb]

Your experiment will probably result in chemically induced, self inflicted schizophrenia. I wouldn't try that at home.

 

[ngdawg]

Methinks that if you have done mushrooms before (extensive experience? dude, you're a stoner), this is just a self-legitimizing excuse to get stoned again. "Officer, I swear, it's a scientific experiment!!":roll:

 

[americanwoman]

One question only- Are you looking for any volunteers to help with this? I volunteer myself for any and all expirements on 'magical mushrooms'. :mrgreen:

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Moving this for now


SWM

 

[Jay R]

I trust this will be taking place during the generous summer holiday period that school teachers enjoy and is unrelated to your position at an educational establishment? What you do in your own time is your own business, just remember the seperation of work and play.

Why the Zeppelin and Hendrix? Shouldn't you sit alone on a futon in a soundproofed room to get a genuine control test before then introducing other stimulus on subsequent trips to assess the variance in effects? This doesn't sound like a professionally handled experiment.

Good luck for your trip! :mrgreen:

 

[Libertine]

@Ngdawg

this is just a self-legitimizing excuse to get stoned again. "Officer, I swear, it's a scientific experiment!!":roll:

LoL I realize this may have the appearance of a simple exercise in having a good time on recreational drugs. But research with the active ingredient in 'Magic Mushrooms' has been the basis for much ground braking psychological research.
Just to give you one example, Dr Timothy Leary (who I mentioned in my original post) conducted a study in which convicted felons were given therapy whilst in a lucid dream like state induced by the active ingredient in Magic Mushrooms. Whilst in this state the felons were able to access their subconscious mind and confront many deeply berried issues that gave them greater insight as to why they offend.
As a result of this the felons treated with therapy and magic mushrooms were significantly less likely to re-offend than felons who had been given therapy without magic mushrooms and as much as three times less likely to re-offend as felons who had received no therapy and no ‘shrooms

@alphieb

Your experiment will probably result in chemically induced, self inflicted schizophrenia

hmmm I’m not sure where you are getting this from, but I have a psychology degree and have worked for over a year a leading mental health charity in the UK. As such I can confirm for you that there is absolutely no evidence or research linking Magic Mushrooms with Schizophrenia (althogh shrooms can compicate the symtoms for those with existing schizophrenia)…. Please compare and contrast theses encyclopedia articles on Magic Mushrooms and cannabis. You will note that the former of the articles makes no mention of any form of mental illness while that latter implies a tenuous link at least with mental illness.

Magic Mushrooms

Cannabis

But thanx for your concern,

 

[alphieb]

You obviously are not a shrink, because there is a link between schizophrenia and acid abuse.

www.mayoclinic.com/health/schizophrenia/AN00160

 

[Captain America]

The first thing I think you will discover is that Pink Floyd goes a lot better with 'shrooms than Hindrix or Zepp. Hendix works better with windowpane and blotter. Zepplin is a pot band.

But hey, what the heck? If you're zoomin' and 'shroomin', the Morman Tabernacle choir will rock your socks off. But stay away from Brry Manilow. The queasy feeling you get during the offset of the 'shrooms can be fought off. But if Manilow is on the jukebox....you're gonna puke for sure.:mrgreen:

 

[zymurgy]

You obviously are not a shrink, because there is a link between schizophrenia and acid abuse.

www.mayoclinic.com/health/schizophrenia/AN00160

And you are clearly not a chemist as LSD and psilocybine are not the same.

 

[taxedout]

And you are clearly not a chemist as LSD and psilocybine are not the same.

Psylocybine is a sulfated derivitive of tryptamine, the precursor of dopamine, epinephrine and norepinephrine. It acts as an antagonist at neurotransmitter receptors channels on synapses in the central nervous system, that is, it blocks the activation of channels, and subsequent neurotransmission. Lysergic acid works by a similar mechanism. Dopaimine and norepinephrine are key neurotransmitters in the CNS. Dopamine is a key neurotransmitter, intimately involved in schizophrenia. Hallucinations both auditory and visual, as well as delusions are key components of schizophrenia. It can be said that tripping is an acute schizophrenic state.

Alphieb could no doubt show the structures, pathways, key enzymes, intermediates and final products involved. You may be barking up the wrong tree.

Libertine
Incidently, King Krimson's "Three of a Perfect Pair" would be the ideal soundtrack to this experiment. Please, however, give it up with the mind expansion nonsense and just accept it for what it is, a really good high.

 

[Libertine]

You obviously are not a shrink, because there is a link between schizophrenia and acid abuse.
www.mayoclinic.com/health/schizophrenia/AN00160

LoL this is priceless... I once again thank you for what is clearly heart felt concern for my safety but i must once again re iterate my original statement that there is no link between magic mushrooms and schizophrenia here it is again....

As such I can confirm for you that there is absolutely no evidence or research linking Magic Mushrooms with Schizophrenia

quite what LSD/Acid has to do with this I am not quite sure. The only way in which Magic Mushrooms could put me at risk with regard to developing a mental health conditin is if I already had an existing but latent mental health condition.

...oh... and no i am not a 'shrink' (as you put it) and i never said i was....presumably you have confused Psychiatry and Psychology in a similar manner to which you confused LSD and Magic Mushrooms

But thanx once again for your concern, Libertine xXx

 

[Captain America]

Still.....acid, 'shroom's, whatever.....:roll:

Stick with the Floyd. I ain't gonna lie to ya.

Darkside of the Moon for 'shroom's. You will actually "feel" the music.

Trust me on this one.

 

[alphieb]

Libertine--

psilocybine is an amino acid derivative and virtually has the same effect of LSD. Yes, it can induce schizophrenia.

 

[Libertine]

Libertine--

psilocybine is an amino acid derivative and virtually has the same effect of LSD. Yes, it can induce schizophrenia.

Well were all capable of making sweeping unqualified statements aren't we luv:roll: But how about just for a change you back up your views with an actual study. You have the whole internet at your disposal so please find me a study demonstrating up your original statement that Magic Mushrooms cause Schizophrenia.

...oh...and Captain America may I recommend watching The Wizard of Ozz synchronized with the Dark Side of the Moon whilst on 'shrooms....just trust me on this one

 

[americanwoman]

Hey man you never answered my question, are you looking for any volunteers?

 

[Libertine]

Hey man you never answered my question, are you looking for any volunteers?

Yeah thanx for the offer hun. i'll probably be conducting the experiment a week on Saturday, you are more than welcome to participate either by...

A) Asking me questions via MSN

B) Taking some 'shrooms and joining me in the question and answer setion on MSN.

 

[americanwoman]

Yeah thanx for the offer hun. i'll probably be conducting the experiment a week on Saturday, you are more than welcome to participate either by...

A) Asking me questions via MSN

B) Taking some 'shrooms and joining me in the question and answer setion on MSN.

sounds cool except........I can't find no mushrooms around here!!

 

[alphieb]

sounds cool except........I can't find no mushrooms around here!!

Look under cow sh!t.......

 

[alphieb]

Well were all capable of making sweeping unqualified statements aren't we luv:roll: But how about just for a change you back up your views with an actual study. You have the whole internet at your disposal so please find me a study demonstrating up your original statement that Magic Mushrooms cause Schizophrenia.

...oh...and Captain America may I recommend watching The Wizard of Ozz synchronized with the Dark Side of the Moon whilst on 'shrooms....just trust me on this one

LSD/shrooms and the acids and/or acid derivatives when consumed can cause hallucinations, thus mimicing schizophrenia. Furthermore, any chemical when consumed on a regular basis changes your brain chemistry. Altered brain chemistry can lead to psychosis. Here is a little site for you to observe.

www.clubdrugs-lsd.com

 

[::Major_Baker::]

this is so 1992.
Wizard of oz and dark side for crap's sakes?
At least go enjoy nature and walk around in the woods. Sitting inside in front of a tv sounds like a real mental drag.

 

[Libertine]

LSD/shrooms and the acids and/or acid derivatives when consumed can cause hallucinations, thus mimicing schizophrenia. Furthermore, any chemical when consumed on a regular basis changes your brain chemistry. Altered brain chemistry can lead to psychosis. Here is a little site for you to observe.
www.clubdrugs-lsd.com

…erm… I genuinely don’t want to seem overly rude or anything luv but can you please hurry up and produce me a study demonstrating my study with Magic Mushrooms (Please note: Magic Mushrooms NOT LSD) will as you have put it…

result in chemically induced, self inflicted schizophrenia.

I have requested that you find me a study to back up your above sweeping and unqualified statement that my study with Magic Mushrooms will result in schizophrenia, but yet so far you have so far only produce two studies linking LSD (not Magic Mushrooms) with schizophrenia, indeed the later of the links even has LSD in the title.

Please tell me you know the difference between Magic Mushrooms and LSD… oh and don’t bother saying that... "they are both haloclines as the and therefore the same thing" as then you would have to conclude Nicotine and LSD are the same thing as they are both hallucagenic here is a link…

Nictotine cause hallucinations

...oh and yes I can back views up with an actual links…. It’s a novel concept isn’t it. Perhaps you would like to give it a go some time and try providing a link to anything to do with Magic Mushrooms. Or you could just carry on providing me with links to do with LSD…. Its up to you.