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A solution to the Russia threat

Moderate71

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We should encourage Germany to build up their military. If they would simply come to understand that it is all right to have pride in your nation and people, they could serve as a solution to any supposed Russian threat and protect Western Civilization. If Germany could rally around their nation and people, they could annex Austria, the Czech Republic, Poland, Belarus, the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, and they could build a military and nuclear arsenal that would be considerably more powerful than Russia's. The United States could help them if they would get their heads out of their asses.
 

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We should encourage Germany to build up their military. If they would simply come to understand that it is all right to have pride in your nation and people, they could serve as a solution to any supposed Russian threat and protect Western Civilization. If Germany could rally around their nation and people, they could annex Austria, the Czech Republic, Poland, Belarus, the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, and they could build a military and nuclear arsenal that would be considerably more powerful than Russia's. The United States could help them if they would get their heads out of their asses.

??? Annex all those countries?

Not a good idea.
 

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The threat is not from Russia, it is from The New Chinese Empire of which Russia is a part.
 

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We should encourage Germany to build up their military. If they would simply come to understand that it is all right to have pride in your nation and people, they could serve as a solution to any supposed Russian threat and protect Western Civilization. If Germany could rally around their nation and people, they could annex Austria, the Czech Republic, Poland, Belarus, the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, and they could build a military and nuclear arsenal that would be considerably more powerful than Russia's. The United States could help them if they would get their heads out of their asses.

Oh good, your thinking is not that far removed from the thinking that started two world wars.
 

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We should encourage Germany to build up their military. If they would simply come to understand that it is all right to have pride in your nation and people, they could serve as a solution to any supposed Russian threat and protect Western Civilization. If Germany could rally around their nation and people, they could annex Austria, the Czech Republic, Poland, Belarus, the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, and they could build a military and nuclear arsenal that would be considerably more powerful than Russia's. The United States could help them if they would get their heads out of their asses.

Where you been?

Germany is busy INCREASING ITS DEPENDENCE on RUSSIAN NATURAL GAS.

Red China is a far greater threat to us than is Russia.
 

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We should encourage Germany to build up their military. If they would simply come to understand that it is all right to have pride in your nation and people, they could serve as a solution to any supposed Russian threat and protect Western Civilization. If Germany could rally around their nation and people, they could annex Austria, the Czech Republic, Poland, Belarus, the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, and they could build a military and nuclear arsenal that would be considerably more powerful than Russia's. The United States could help them if they would get their heads out of their asses.

Moderate71:

Sometimes the solution for a problem is worse than the problem itself. Creating a Western European endorsed Grossedeutschland would be nigh on impossible. Not only would the Czechs, Balts, Ukrainians, White Russians and Poles oppose such a move with military force, but France and the U.K./Britain would oppose it too. Finally, the Russians would go to war if such a prospect emerged in their western near-abroad and that could easily escalate from a conventional war into a global thermonuclear exchange.

A far better idea, which runs parallel to your idea, is to create a Central European Treaty Organisation (CETO) which would replace NATO with regards to the first line of defence from an eastern attack against Europe. Germany would be the only country allowed membership in both the CETO and NATO alliances. NATO would be in charge of defending Western Europe, Scandinavia, the Altantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea. CETO would be in charge of defending Eastern Europe up to the Russian border, the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea. This would strengthen the ability of Central European states to defend themselves through collective action while keeping most Western European states, Canada and especially America far from the Russian near-abroad.

Eventually, if border disputes could be settled between Ukraine and Russia bilaterally, then even Russia could be considered for membership in CETO if a Eurasian military threat emerged from further east to threaten Russia.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 

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Moderate71:

Sometimes the solution for a problem is worse than the problem itself. Creating a Western European endorsed Grossedeutschland would be nigh on impossible. Not only would the Czechs, Balts, Ukrainians, White Russians and Poles oppose such a move with military force, but France and the U.K./Britain would oppose it too. Finally, the Russians would go to war if such a prospect emerged in their western near-abroad and that could easily escalate from a conventional war into a global thermonuclear exchange.

A far better idea, which runs parallel to your idea, is to create a Central European Treaty Organisation (CETO) which would replace NATO with regards to the first line of defence from an eastern attack against Europe. Germany would be the only country allowed membership in both the CETO and NATO alliances. NATO would be in charge of defending Western Europe, Scandinavia, the Altantic Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea. CETO would be in charge of defending Eastern Europe up to the Russian border, the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea. This would strengthen the ability of Central European states to defend themselves through collective action while keeping most Western European states, Canada and especially America far from the Russian near-abroad.

Eventually, if border disputes could be settled between Ukraine and Russia bilaterally, then even Russia could be considered for membership in CETO if a Eurasian military threat emerged from further east to threaten Russia.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.

They need an enthusiastic, nationalistic leader to rally them together and fire them up. They need to beat it into their heads that they have been the victims of Russian oppression and they need a common enemy to hate.
 
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