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A Socialist in his own words.

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From a hilarious thread, and seemingly typical of the socialist mentality.

This bit caught my eye:

Doesn't work, your not going to get anywhere in a debate with the commie attack when you have absolutely no idea what communism or socialist is and anyone who works for the big 40 hours deserve a wage they can live on. Instead of me having to use my tax dollars to feed and house them so some bloodsucking business can make a bigger profit.

What is a “bloodsucking business”? Examples?

Most do not have monopolies, like government. Virtually all have to compete.

Profits provide secure jobs and allows development of new and better products.

If a company is pricing its products too high, the market shifts, and a window is opened for competitors. It’s how we get such awesome products, such an awesome variety of products and great service at low prices.

“...bloodsucking business...” ROTFLOL... only in the minds of economic illiterates.

PS. Government shouldn’t subsidize businesses... once again... the failure of government over-taxation, and their trying to right a wrong. But bloodsucking... ROTFLOL...
 
Most do not have monopolies, like government. Virtually all have to compete.

Profits provide secure jobs and allows development of new and better products.

If a company is pricing its products too high, the market shifts, and a window is opened for competitors. It’s how we get such awesome products, such an awesome variety of products and great service at low prices.

Nice in theory, except that doesn't happen. Companies price their products so high that people can't afford them (or rather, people are paid so little that they can't afford reasonably priced products) and then they get into financial trouble putting jobs at risk and driving wages down further. So the government supplements the rest of their profits in order to 'create jobs.' So they hire more workers without raising wages. Of course, when the government money runs out they still shut down, lay off all their workers and the government complains that the company 'made them look bad.'
 
An example of a bloodsucking business is for-profit health care. Another is the military industrial complex. How can you not see that neither of these GIANT industries fits your model and are overwhelmingly have cons on the payroll?

If the right really believed their own rhetoric, they wouldn't support politician's who are bought off by these subsidized industries, who threaten democracy and human well being.
 
From a hilarious thread, and seemingly typical of the socialist mentality.

This bit caught my eye:



What is a “bloodsucking business”? Examples?

Most do not have monopolies, like government. Virtually all have to compete.

Profits provide secure jobs and allows development of new and better products.

If a company is pricing its products too high, the market shifts, and a window is opened for competitors. It’s how we get such awesome products, such an awesome variety of products and great service at low prices.

“...bloodsucking business...” ROTFLOL... only in the minds of economic illiterates.

PS. Government shouldn’t subsidize businesses... once again... the failure of government over-taxation, and their trying to right a wrong. But bloodsucking... ROTFLOL...

jb is so far left he makes AOC look like a white nationalist. Not even lefties take him seriously.
 
Nice in theory, except that doesn't happen. Companies price their products so high that people can't afford them (or rather, people are paid so little that they can't afford reasonably priced products) and then they get into financial trouble putting jobs at risk and driving wages down further.

That is so silly it’s hilarious. Nobody goes into business looking to price their products out of reach of the masses.

So the government supplements the rest of their profits in order to 'create jobs.' So they hire more workers without raising wages. Of course, when the government money runs out they still shut down, lay off all their workers and the government complains that the company 'made them look bad.'

Government subsidies are market corrections for their absurd taxes that drive businesses away.

Businesses pay employees what they are worth in the market. They pay people more when they’re worth it. A great example of this is any professional sports league. Journeymen with modest skills are paid modestly. Superstars are paid much more.
 
From a hilarious thread, and seemingly typical of the socialist mentality.

This bit caught my eye:



What is a “bloodsucking business”? Examples?

Most do not have monopolies, like government. Virtually all have to compete.

Profits provide secure jobs and allows development of new and better products.

If a company is pricing its products too high, the market shifts, and a window is opened for competitors. It’s how we get such awesome products, such an awesome variety of products and great service at low prices.

“...bloodsucking business...” ROTFLOL... only in the minds of economic illiterates.

PS. Government shouldn’t subsidize businesses... once again... the failure of government over-taxation, and their trying to right a wrong. But bloodsucking... ROTFLOL...

That's an odd thing for an admitted Marxist like you to complain about.
 
An example of a bloodsucking business is for-profit health care. Another is the military industrial complex. How can you not see that neither of these GIANT industries fits your model and are overwhelmingly have cons on the payroll?

If the right really believed their own rhetoric, they wouldn't support politician's who are bought off by these subsidized industries, who threaten democracy and human well being.

Government intervention (ObamaCare) got prices to rise by multiples, and service to be limited.

If government did that with cell phones, we’d be paying $2000 for a 1996 Nokia.

The military created technology that brought down the USSR. The government paid for their technological leaps.

For example, smart bombs were once mightily expensive. Boeing created JDAMs which are cost effective.
JDAM: How Boeing's Low-Cost Smart Bomb Revolutionized Strike Warfare
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lorent...ost-smart-bomb-revolutionized-strike-warfare/

Our military might, the free market which created the technology has freed hundreds of millions from totalitarian misery. These companies compete with one another... which does what? Drive down costs.

Of course, Leftists seemed to have a love affair with Communists.

PS. British Columbia and their socialist government (NDP) thought they would cut out the greedy private companies when building ferries. They came up with the Fast Cat concept. It was massively over budget, and it failed in every test.

1. Way over budget.

2. Did not fulfill the goal of transporting cars and trucks.

3. Was not fast.

The ships were sold at a loss... and the taxpayer took it in the neck.

Had they hired a private company, they would have fulfilled their wishes. Government is a model of inefficiencies... not the free market.
 
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What is a “bloodsucking business”? Examples?
For example, there is a staggeringly high number of Walmart employees that require foot stamps or some other form of government assistance despite the fact that they're working full time at Walmart. So Walmart pays these people to jack **** to get low prices and attract customers, but then takes advantage of corporate tax breaks to barely pay any tax and so it's the rest of us whose tax cuts are going to help subsidize Walmart for being cheap asses. Meanwhile, Costco pays the average worker something like $17/hour and still turns a significant profit while offering similar prices. Costco's employees don't need food stamps, but Walmarts do. We are essentially subsidizing Walmart's greed.

Most do not have monopolies, like government. Virtually all have to compete.
Yet clearly Costco has no major issues competing with Walmart despite paying livable wages.

Profits provide secure jobs and allows development of new and better products.
Garbage nonsense. All these corporations factor in large R&D budgets before their massive profits. Furthermore, Walmart isn't developing new products. They're ripping off other companies products and producing generics the hurt the companies who actually do most of the development.

If a company is pricing its products too high, the market shifts and a window is opened for competitors.
Except as pointed out to you before. Costco is offering roughly the same prices that Walmart does while paying their workers in some cases close to double the wages.

It’s how we get such awesome products, such an awesome variety of products and great service at low prices.
Variety? HAHAHA!!! If Walmart had its way we'd all be forced to buy one of about 5 different types of sofas that they and only they sell. Mega-corporations like Walmart and McDonald's don't increase variety they shut down the competition by offering cheap cookie cutter crap.
 
What is a “bloodsucking business”? Examples?...

Every company in existence usually has a goal of a making as much money as humanly possible while paying their employees as little possible (as long as the work gets done).

That's not necessarily blood sucking but it's doing what's best for the business and not the people.

There is no other way to have capitalism.
 
That is so silly it’s hilarious. Nobody goes into business looking to price their products out of reach of the masses.

Of course they don't. But the higher the cost of living gets for consumers, the lower the demand becomes. Businesses start having to cut corners and lay off workers in order to continue make a profit. Once it becomes unprofitable, they can either fold and put their entire workforce on unemployment, or the government can step in to subsidize their profits to prevent layoffs from occurring during the present administration. This is a temporary and non-sustainable fix. Market regulation is required to prevent bubbles and recessions in the market. Leaving the market to its own devices is great for wise investors to accumulate wealth during the bubbles, but is bad for the country on the whole.
 
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