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A Read for Thoughtful People: Donald Trump is completely transforming the Democrats

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https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/423178-donald-trump-is-completely-transforming-the-democrats

Washington has long been a stranger to principle other than the principle of self advancement. Yet, something new seems to be emerging across the country. Politicians have long felt the need to disguise raw political agendas in the pretense of principle. That pretense has disappeared.

In this age of rage, voters seem to have no patience, let alone need, for leaders speaking of abstract principles. They want immediate unequivocal action in supporting or opposing President Trump. For Democrats, that all consuming purpose has led to the abandonment of core unifying values, including many that first drew me to the Democratic Party. While they would vehemently deny it, Trump is remaking the party in his inverse image. This past month shows how far that transformation has gone.

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There was a time when a sizable number of Democrats opposed undeclared wars and unending military campaigns. Now, they are appalled that Trump would not continue a war in one of the myriad countries with American troops engaged in combat operations. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called the withdrawal a “Christmas gift to Vladimir Putin,”

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Democrats are now defined by Trump the way that antimatter is defined by matter, with each particle of matter corresponding to an antiparticle. Take the secrecy. Democrats once were the party that fought against the misuse of secret classification laws by the FBI and other agencies. They demanded greater transparency from the executive branch, which is a position that I have readily supported. Yet, when oversight committees sought documents related to the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act investigation of Trump associates, Democrats denounced the very thought that Republicans would question the judgment of the FBI that any such disclosures would be tantamount to jeopardizing national security.

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A party requires more than hatred for an individual. A party has to stand for something that transcends the immediate or the visceral. Yet, in the age of Trump, the public is not interested in nuance or niceties. The watchword is “resist” and that means to push back at all costs, even against our core values. So the question is not what the Democratic Party will do but what it will be after Donald Trump eventually leaves office.


The democrats have lost their minds because in the cable and internet age, time has been sped up and they don't feel they have time to wait for the next election. They want change now! By any means necessary! Now!
So far the "change" in the last thirty years has been more wars, higher prices, more unemployment, more homeless, higher debt, and 47% of the population getting some kind of public assistance:
39 million on food stamps
67 million on Medicaid
9 million on CHIP
Those are just the highlights
https://wellkeptwallet.com/statistics-welfare-america/

So here we are. Nations across the world are worried to death that the democrats are egging on a war with Russia, because they think it won't happen, and ignoring a war with China that might, simply because they hate Trump and what he stands for:

We’ve defended other nations’ borders while refusing to defend our own and spent trillions of dollars overseas while America’s infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay. … One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores, with not even a thought about the millions upon millions of American workers left behind. The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed across the entire world.

Happy f'ing new year. LOL
 
Frequent Fox News contributor, say what?

:roll:
 
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/423178-donald-trump-is-completely-transforming-the-democrats




The democrats have lost their minds because in the cable and internet age, time has been sped up and they don't feel they have time to wait for the next election. They want change now! By any means necessary! Now!
So far the "change" in the last thirty years has been more wars, higher prices, more unemployment, more homeless, higher debt, and 47% of the population getting some kind of public assistance:
39 million on food stamps
67 million on Medicaid
9 million on CHIP
Those are just the highlights
https://wellkeptwallet.com/statistics-welfare-america/

So here we are. Nations across the world are worried to death that the democrats are egging on a war with Russia, because they think it won't happen, and ignoring a war with China that might, simply because they hate Trump and what he stands for:



Happy f'ing new year. LOL

Another exercise in projection. What else is new.
 
I guess I should have labeled the piece "Hater bait".

Didn't you mother ever tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything".

Crap your own tribe's threads, not mine.
 
GOP policymaking is driven by three questions: (1) Will it benefit their benefactors, be it domestic plutocrat or foreign autocrat, (2) Will it protect their corrupt leader, and (3) Will it piss off the left.

The GOP is a primal scream, wrapped in a thin candy shell of corruption, masquerading as a political party.

There's nothing inconsistent about opposing corruption and kakistocracy.
 
The democrats have lost their minds because in the cable and internet age, time has been sped up and they don't feel they have time to wait for the next election. They want change now! By any means necessary! Now!
:roll:


So far the "change" in the last thirty years has been more wars
Incorrect. There was a dramatic drop in warfare after the fall of the USSR in 1991. There aren't even any actual active wars in the entire Western hemisphere. You couldn't say that in 1988.


higher prices
Incorrect. Inflation has been low for decades.


more unemployment
Incorrect. Unemployment rate is at record lows. How did you miss that one?


more homeless
Yeah, not seeing any solid data on that.


higher debt
lol

You do know that debt has been increasing since 1980? That Republicans bear significant responsibility for debt levels?


and 47% of the population getting some kind of public assistance:
39 million on food stamps
67 million on Medicaid
9 million on CHIP
You, uh, do know that the figures you listed are nowhere near 47% of the US population, right?

That "47%" includes retirees, who collect Social Security and Medicare, systems they paid into for decades. Means-tested benefits is around 20% of the US population. That hasn't gone up significantly in recent years.

You also do know that it was Bush 43 who expanded eligibility for SNAP, right? That the number of SNAP recipients started rising in 2000, peaked in 2013, and has fallen since then?

As to Medicaid, that grew because of the ACA. People didn't get poorer, rather we chose to extend some form of health care to more poor people and their kids. How horrendous!!!


So here we are. Nations across the world are worried to death that the democrats are egging on a war with Russia, because they think it won't happen, and ignoring a war with China that might, simply because they hate Trump and what he stands for....
Uh... No.

No one expects any sort of shooting war between the US and either Russia or China. I might add that Trump would not do jack if Russia invaded another ex-Soviet nation.

Nations are worried because the POTUS is an irrational, inconsistent, arrogant autocrat with a fragile ego, who lashes out at allies and gives cover to brutal dictators around the world.

Thanks, but no thanks, for the lies and misdirections.
 
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/423178-donald-trump-is-completely-transforming-the-democrats




The democrats have lost their minds because in the cable and internet age, time has been sped up and they don't feel they have time to wait for the next election. They want change now! By any means necessary! Now!
So far the "change" in the last thirty years has been more wars, higher prices, more unemployment, more homeless, higher debt, and 47% of the population getting some kind of public assistance:
39 million on food stamps
67 million on Medicaid
9 million on CHIP
Those are just the highlights
https://wellkeptwallet.com/statistics-welfare-america/

So here we are. Nations across the world are worried to death that the democrats are egging on a war with Russia, because they think it won't happen, and ignoring a war with China that might, simply because they hate Trump and what he stands for:



Happy f'ing new year. LOL

LOL, classic Trump projection. How does it feel to be redefined by Trump?
 
I guess I should have labeled the piece "Hater bait".

Yeah, that OP is full of a lot of hate. That's OK, I think most liberals just feel sorry for you.


Didn't you mother ever tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything".

Yet here you are saying a bunch of nonsense. Maybe you should listen to your mother more often? I'm betting she wasn't so easily conned by Trump.
 
The hive mind is full of beeswax.
 
This was not meant to be a TDSer's roll call or to trigger your anger therapy.

I even had the courtesy to warn you: "A Read for Thoughtful People"
Thinkers, you ain't.

Teach me, master.
 
Teach me, master.

My teaching years are behind me: "You can't change people. They can only change themselves" coupled with "Teachers only provide the tools".

The point of the article is how the Trump era has caused people to change themselves for the worst. Without the internet people wrote "letters to the editor", now everyone is a pundit.

People can't even read an article they disagree with without popping off. "I just can't let him get away with saying that!" (I doubt they read the actual piece) Silence is not necessarily agreement. We seem to have forgotten that.
 
Frequent Fox News contributor, say what?

:roll:

Known, longtime, unabashed Democrat... putting up a mirror for Democrats to look into.

With many Democrats not liking what they see, and having no response beyond drivel like you posted.

Yet, in the age of Trump... The watchword is “resist” and that means to push back at all costs, even against our core values.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/423178-donald-trump-is-completely-transforming-the-democrats

The title is wrong... Democrats are completely transforming Democrats... which answers the quoted comment above... Democrats have no core values except the pursuit of raw power.

That’s typical... of Socialists.
 
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Known, longtime, unabashed Democrat... putting up a mirror for Democrats to look into.

With many Democrats not liking what they see, and having no response beyond drivel like you posted.



The title is wrong... Democrats are completely transforming Democrats... which answers the quoted comment above... Democrats have no core values except the pursuit of raw power.

That’s typical... of Socialists.

Where did you read the bolded lie?
 
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