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The idea that it's a separate human isn't a "belief" - it's fact.
Good. Yank it out and let it be a separate human.
The idea that it's a separate human isn't a "belief" - it's fact.
That is twisted logicAccording to my logic, the rapist.
What's so awful about defending legal abortion against conservative males whose religious bias makes them insists that women use abortion instead of using birth control, get abortions for convenience alone, are selfish, immoral, uncaring and wrong: to whom statistics, studies, research, and science are nothing more than lying propaganda.Awful thread. Not even going to read beyond the OP.
Actually, it's not.ok well, your post is ridiculous because
that's exactly what that means. I don't know if you know this, but it takes a medical professional to do an abortion to begin with. Even in a case where a woman's life is at risk, and the doctor is either playing video games or who knows what, an abortion isn't going to help because said medical professional is too "busy" to get to her in any case.
unless, of course, there is a rash of women just shoving coat hangars up theirs in the middle of labor. As someone who's been to some pretty poor hospitals, that ain't happening.
Therefore, the rest of your post is pure nonsense.
Liberal is correct. If the embryo is separate, then get it out of her because she didn't consent to have it inside her body. That's a perfectly reasonable demand.The idea that it's a separate human isn't a "belief" - it's fact.
This question, @Liberal7360 ...
Interesting how you change the question and subject.
You asked who's body.
I clearly said the woman's.
Now you're talking about weapons. Which has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.
I point out how ridiculous your claim that a zygote is a separate human from the woman and you go off on weapons.
You know your claim is ridiculous so you change the subject.
That is very cowardly.
i think it's twisted to rape a woman, but that's just me i guess.That is twisted logic
Literally it is a doctor
Nobody here thinks it is not twisted that people rape, it is the nonsense you add to that is twisted logic.i think it's twisted to rape a woman, but that's just me i guess.
he should take full responsibility for everything that happens afterwords.
He should take responsibility for the doctor killing the baby??? That is twisted logici think it's twisted to rape a woman, but that's just me i guess.
he should take full responsibility for everything that happens afterwords.
Is it more twisted than holding 1 drunk driver responsible when a line of 4 cars get into a wreck?He should take responsibility for the doctor killing the baby??? That is twisted logic
because that requires the rape victim to carry and give birth to the child. A child that she never consented to make.Why not adoption? The mothers feelings come before the life of the baby????
I already responded to the question and subject. You have yet to respond to something that was asked of you days ago. Isn't that cowardly?
So her feelings come above the life of the baby?Is it more twisted than holding 1 drunk driver responsible when a line of 4 cars get into a wreck?
The rapist set the chain of events into motion, so he is responsible in such a case.
because that requires the rape victim to carry and give birth to the child. A child that she never consented to make.
I only saw one question from you.
I replied to you asking who's body.
You want to go off on weapons go for it. I'm just not going to participate.
You made an extremely ridiculous statement that a zygote is a separate human from the woman and I pointed out how ridiculous that is.
If you want to change the subject because I got the best of you with your ridiculous statement go for it but I'm done with you.
If you want to be a coward fine. Go for it. Have a great time.
Meanwhile I'm done with you, you aren't honest and you make very ridiculous statements expecting people to just buy anything you post.
Intelligent people laugh at you and your ridiculous statements.
It depends, did the drunk driver cause the accident? Then it is completely logical to hold them responsible.Is it more twisted than holding 1 drunk driver responsible when a line of 4 cars get into a wreck?
The rapist set the chain of events into motion, so he is responsible in such a case.
because that requires the rape victim to carry and give birth to the child. A child that she never consented to make.
her feelings are put above the conditions of rape, yes.So her feelings come above the life of the baby?
I don't hold it equal to a born life, no. unborn, It has value, and must be protected, but not in all circumstances.Man you dont hold that babys life in very high regard
well, in the case above, the rapist was the one who caused the pregnancy. It is therefore, logical, to hold them responsible for anything that may come of it, including an abortion.It depends, did the drunk driver cause the accident? Then it is completely logical to hold them responsible.
it's a metaphor. put it together.And as a woman is not a car in a car wreck, that means your comparison is illogical.
Abortion should not be legal in all circumstances, no.And no rape victim should ever be required to carry the child of a rapist to term, hence one of the great reasons abortion should remain legal.
nopewell, in the case above, the rapist was the one who caused the pregnancy. It is therefore, logical, to hold them responsible for anything that may come of it, including an abortion.
who are you to think you get to decide if a woman can have an abortion or not?it's a metaphor. put it together.
Abortion should not be legal in all circumstances, no.
so the rapist causes this whole wreck against the woman and her whole life, and he shouldn't be held responsible?nope
A voter, that's who I am, and that's all I need.who are you to think you get to decide if a woman can have an abortion or not?
Who said anything to that effect? Why the lies?so the rapist causes this whole wreck against the woman and her whole life, and he shouldn't be held responsible?
A real scumbag view.A voter, that's who I am, and that's all I need.
Why do you keep posting this kind of nonsense? The rapist is being held responsible for the rape and will have to sit in jail for a nice long time.so the rapist causes this whole wreck against the woman and her whole life, and he shouldn't be held responsible?
Roe v. Wade is not on the ballot last time I checked because it is a constitutional right.A voter, that's who I am, and that's all I need.
and if she gets an abortion, he should be held responsible for that. I don't know of any prolifer who wouldn't hold him responsible.Why do you keep posting this kind of nonsense? The rapist is being held responsible for the rape and will have to sit in jail for a nice long time.
Tell that to all the states that have regulated abortion the last 40 years. Elections have consequences, shall i remind you?Roe v. Wade is not on the ballot last time I checked because it is a constitutional right.
Where in law do we kill a child for the actions of another?and if she gets an abortion, he should be held responsible for that. I don't know of any prolifer who wouldn't hold him responsible.
Tell that to all the states that have regulated abortion the last 40 years. Elections have consequences, shall i remind you?
no law says anyone has to do that.Where in law do we kill a child for the actions of another?