ptsdkid said:
I see that I’ll have to go back to basic ‘politics 101’ in order to properly debunk your illogical and damning rhetoric.
Keep in mind Ptsd that not all of us are as gullible and stupid as you.
I’ll start with liberal interference to this war:
First, ‘either your with us or your against us’. I have seen nothing to suggest that a liberal (any liberal) is on America’s side with our fight with terrorism. They are what I would call AINO (American in name only) especially with our war on terrorism. We are at war, so any comments, plans, ideas or military acumen to help us win the war should come from those in the administration together with our military troops and brass. These are the people giving the orders, planning the military strategies, i.e. fighting terrorism on ‘their’ terms.
Well since we're all Americans we obviously on America's side. Having known a few people in those towers I think I'd rather we don't get attacked. However we do no believe in this fascism that cons have adopted. 'either your with us or against us' is just another example of how We are called unpatriotic terrorists for speaking our minds and thinking for ourselves and for our country. The idea of not challenging the government is fascist and nothing you say about it can change it.
Most people disagree with Iraq because it had stupid reasons it had no connection with Osama and WMDs. It was however, in the heart of Islam and had tons of oil. Although it's great that we now have a nice supply of oil that can easily be accessed there, I don't think it's worth 2,083 dollars per American and 2500 American casualties.
These fine committed people do not need a Cookie Parker, Michael Moore, or a Cindy Sheehan spreading propaganda and detrimental rhetoric while our committed troops fight a war. Plenty of time for negative nabobs of gloom and doom once the war is over.
Oh yes those people who believe in democracy are not needed. They're just lying about the 2500 casualties right? And the fact that there are no WMDs and 2 trillion dollars invested in this war.
Cookie, everything you said in response to me had come from a negative point of view or perspective. Granted, there isn’t much to cheer about during wartime, and there certainly is plenty to grieve about, but I have always looked at the bigger picture that almost always shines a brighter light by having long term insight and viable strategic planning. You will not hear about all the good things that have and are happening with the people of Iraq, because a liberal will not dig to find those stories; that would go directly against the liberal’s agenda to lose the war i.e. so as to bring Bush down, and to make it look like another Vietnam.
Things must be really good when the military has to plant news into the IRaqi newspapers right? THis war has no upside for us. We're paying more, and more for a war that was based on a lie and has an unclear cause in a time when the money being used to wage war could feed the poor and starving or fix our SS problem.
About your Haliburton comments:
There is nothing to suggest that America is fighting in the MidEast so as to take over the oil fields. Wouldn’t we have taken over the oil fields by now if that was our objective? You seem to have contempt for Haliburton because of Cheney’s former ties to it. Do you also have contempt for the Texas Rangers baseball team because George Bush once owned it? My point here is Haliburton is an American corporation. They have a contract to do work in the MidEast. Would you prefer a foreign country like China, Cuba, or Venezuela get the contract over an American company? America’s success in business is a liberal’s nightmare. America’s success in war is also a liberal’s nightmare.
success in what? in establishing a theocracy? We haven't seized their oil rigs because people would notice and what the hell would the prez say then? Besides, who do you thinks going to be their best customer once they have a stable gov't, Saddam?
Keeping the overall picture in mind, America hasn’t been attacked by terrorists for 4 ½ years thanks to Bush bringing the fight to Islamic Fascists on their land. You and others of your ilk keep making snide remarks that we haven’t captured Bin Laden. Rather than expend our resources to search for a coward in some spider hole through thousands of miles of rough terrain--Bush has decided to fight visible terrorism throughout the entire MidEast. Bin Laden has been rendered to non-entity status. Again, you do not see terrorist boot camp training facilities on TV anymore. This is because of our widespread (in your face) presence all over rag-head nation (thanks to George Bush).
Oh yes 4 and a half years, big accomplishment! We're actually safe! When there is a murderer who killed 2000 people do we just let him run loose, or do we have the police catch him? It's sick that you can just say oh, he's not attacking us right now so let's leavve him alone.
rag-head nation just shows how ****ing ignorant you are. There were no terrorists in Iraq that posed a threat to us. Face the facts, that fox news is propaganda. Stop watching it, it's hurting your brain!
[/QUOTE]I look at the progress America is making with the reduction in terrorism, and with the free elections and outing of a murdering tyrant in Iraq as positive accomplishments. You look at successful American businesses (Haliburton) with contempt, and at America’s resolve to fight terrorism with a contemptible eye and with a dangerous alternative.
Proud American…Tim[/QUOTE]
Yay! We established a theocracy at the cost of 2 trillion dollars. We're in the largest deficiet and debt ever, and have SS and healthcare in a complete mess. Osama is still out there. Great! dude just great. We got Saddam but who ****ing cares? he had no WMDs and was no threat to us. This is just fantastic.