Navy Pride said:Have you ever heard a woman when she found out she was pregnant tell people: I am so happy I am going to have a fetus?
Actually, at birth it would be a baby. And hopefully she finds out BEFORE there is a fetus.Navy Pride said:Have you ever heard a woman when she found out she was pregnant tell people: I am so happy I am going to have a fetus?
Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:Hey Navy, she would be accurrate if she said that. Fetus is the latin word for Baby or offspring or young one. Have you noticed if a woman decides to have a Baby she says so and is proud of the event. Baby showers and well wishes. She deserves it. As I can not think of a greater honor than give someone the gift of Life. She becomes a Hero. A special Hero that not only saves a Life but someone that gives life. Oh how special.
Now lets see what the woman who decides to have an abortion goes through She is not proud she tells no one. No party just sneaking off to a clinic to pay a hired assasin to kill someone who is half you. She calls the Baby "it " thus not recognizing she is killing another human being. Afterwards she might feel guilty and sorry but it is to late that life will never be. I can pray she askes for forgiveness and prays that she will hold her baby in heaven. For anyone going through the guilt I suggest reading "I'll Hold you in heaven" by Jack Hayford. But if anyone is trying to decide I beg you don't have an abortion. Life is so prescios don't waste it.
tecoyah said:Why would she say that?
She is not going to have a fetus....it will be a baby if she goes full term.
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Navy Pride said:Its a baby when its conceived.......I know it makes you sleep better at night to deny that though......:roll:
tecoyah said:Actually....if you ignore (as you do) every single bit of scientific literature authored in the last 50 yrs....then you are correct, it is a baby when concieved. Thing is....theres these people, who is all learned and stuff. and they make up fancy wordin' to explain these things.
* sarcasm needed...so not removed*
Well, you keep claiming that. Here is what I have found on the subject:Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:Hey Navy, she would be accurrate if she said that. Fetus is the latin word for Baby or offspring or young one.
Yes, what she is GOING TO HAVE.Have you noticed if a woman decides to have a Baby she says so and is proud of the event.
Yes, that pacifier or swing set is not for the fetus, after all.Baby showers and well wishes. She deserves it.
Well, isn't that special :roll: She doesn't really care what you think. It is her life not yours. If you want a baby go have one of your own. Don't use that as an excuse to enslave her.As I can not think of a greater honor than give someone the gift of Life. She becomes a Hero. A special Hero that not only saves a Life but someone that gives life. Oh how special.
care to evidence that subjective, unsubstantiated claim?Now lets see what the woman who decides to have an abortion goes through She is not proud she tells no one.
More stupid hyperbole and nonsense. You know, when I had surgery I didn't have a party either. Was I ashamed of the surgery? Or are you just spewing incredibly stupid prolife hysterical rhetoric? Well, it is the latter, of course.No party just sneaking off to a clinic
Ah, you are really ramping up the emotional outright lies here. yes, we already have the impression that prolife are unable to make comments without outright lying and spewing emotional hysterics in place of facts. You are merely confirming this impression with your stupid theatrics.to pay a hired assasin to kill someone who is half you.
There is no baby until birth, your emotionally laden, revisionist linguistic hyperbole none withstanding. Yes, once again you evidence the prolifers scorn for facts and accuracy in favor of hysterics.She calls the Baby "it "
But then she aren't to begin with, so that is very realistic.thus not recognizing she is killing another human being.
But most likely not, prolife dishonest implications and lies none withstanding.Afterwards she might feel guilty and sorry
isn't that special. Don't you think that when liars pray to God, it actually harms what they are praying for? She might be better off without your prayers.but it is to late that life will never be. I can pray she askes for forgiveness and prays that she will hold her baby in heaven.
Yadda, yadda, yadda. Emotional appeal through hysterics and deception. YAWN!:roll:For anyone going through the guilt I suggest reading "I'll Hold you in heaven" by Jack Hayford. But if anyone is trying to decide I beg you don't have an abortion. Life is so prescios don't waste it.
Amazing how much emotional hysterics and histrionic "just because I say so" silly postulations prolifers have to spew in the place of the facts they don't have.Navy Pride said:Sleep well tonight, 3,500 babies were murdered in the womb todays....:roll:
Just like when we look at literal expressions of “prolife." Are you REALLY going down the silly road of trying for the misrepresentation of others here?Some_Guy said:You claim that you are "pro-choice". That is kind of hypocritical and contradictive in my opinion.
There is no baby and no sentience which is necessary to make a "choice."Does the baby have the choice to live or die?
Really? Why are you sitting here, then? If you have knowledge of babies being killed, you need to call the police and report it. After all, if you have knowledge of such a crime and don't report it, you could be considered an accomplice and participating in cover-up.Also, I have read an article about an abortion doctor who has killed 20,000 babies.
Hmm, killing babies and children. Now, what does that have to do with abortions of embryos and fetuses, anyway? Would you mind not running off on such silly and irrelevant tangents?He has a family too, mind you. He has killed an entire city worth of innocent children. How do you picture this?
Yes, sure sounds like an ad hominem here. How lame."Daddy! What did you do at work today?"
"Oh, hi, little Billy! I killed 27 babies."
Oh, back to that idea? Well, prolifers want to enslave women. They are like the plantation owners of the 1800's."Yay, I want be like you when I grow up!"
Personally, I picture it slightly like Hitler. Completely devoid of conscience, pity, sorrow, remorse, and emotion.
But it IS just emotional crap. Why shouldn't I point out what it is? Are you saying that I shouldn't expose prolife emotional crap for what it is, just because I might hurt the feeling of the one posting the emotional crap?Also, Steen. All you do is just call his posts emotional crap.
I don't need to. But I have done so elsewhere. The woman doesn't want her bodily resources used by the embryo or fetus. There! That is all the justification needed. Case closed. Now let’s move on.You never actually justify abortion.
Nope. When do you guys figure out that it is silly to make claims about what I think, believe or assume. Trying to attribute such to me merely ends up you being shown that you are wrong. No, I don't assume what you claim I assume. Your claim is false.All you do is assume that emotion and morals are wrong.
No.Do you honestly believe that we should have absolutely no emotion whatsoever
No.and should streamline everything in order to achieve maximum efficiency?
Ah, more irrelevant, revisionist linguistic, prolife emotional claptrap.Oh wait! Murdering babies does not make anything more efficient!
Because the woman is not a slave and has the right to control her bodily resources. Didn't you know this? After all, that is the main issue for pro-choice. Are you THAT ignorant of what you are arguing against? Are you that much focused only on emotions and never even bothered with facts?Why exactly is it that you support abortion in the first place?
Navy Pride said:I have a question for my liberal friends.................If the baby in the womb is not life then why is it a federal crime when someones murders a pregnant woman why is he or she charged with a double murder?