You know, there's a fair amount of pro-choice libertarians out there.
ABSOLUTELY.
There's not one single true libertarian who is against women having the freedom to control their own bodies.
There's not one single true libertarian out there who supports any woman's decision to murder their babies.
The official Libertarian Party platform is even pro-choice.
I'll let you in on a little secret soooo many people can't figure out on their own.
The Democrats don't actually support democracy.
The Republicans don't give a crap about the republic.
The Constitution Party doesn't actually understand what the Constitution is for.
And the Libertarian Party is trolling for votes, not promoting real libertarianism.
Women who don't want to get pregnant have the freedom to choose to not engage in those activities that lead to pregnancy.
It's not complicated.
Women who are pregnant? Don't have a special right bestowed them to murder babies inside them.
As you might want to check out for yourself, the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees equal protection under the law for all persons in the United States, and the law doesn't define what a "person"...but Scott Peterson is on death row for a double homicide.
These people are hardly fake libertarians or anything.
No. They're genuine fake libertarians.
Of did you not see the clown they put up in front as their presidential candidate this year?
A Republican.
They just disagree on the basics from you.
Because I'm a real libertarian, unlike them, I do not attempt to deny them their strenuous efforts to be wrong.
I'm not sure why you think you have the right to speak for all libertarians...
You could try starting with the First Amendment.
Then you could realize that I don't speak for all libertarians, only the real ones, the ones that don't accept the murder of babies as some woman's choice of convenience.
It isn't a dogmatic viewpoint, there are disagreements. People aren't evil or malicious if they disagree with you.
No, they're evil and malicious if they want to pretend women have some mysterious right to murder babies.
What has that baby done to them?
Here's the wiki page on the issue, in case you want to expand your horizon. I'm not neccesarily saying Abortion should be treated one way or another, I'm just saying that you shouldn't be so confident you know exactly what THE libertarian position is.
Libertarian perspectives on abortion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wow.
You can spell "wiki".
I'm impressed....?
The Real America? And what exactly is the "real" America? I'm from California, am I a Real American? If not, am I a "fake" American?
Real Americans ... you know, non-socialists? The independent self-reliant cusses that built this country, not the pants wetting whiners that support the nonsense the Republicans and Democrats put out after scaring the weak-sisters half-to-death because they're stupid?
Me.
Others, like me.
People who don't like seeing babies murdered because some woman who had the chance to say "no" said "yes yes yes ohmygodYES!!!", and then said a week later..."but I'll get fat and have to buy those maternity clothes".
Americans.
To put it more simply...not one single American voted for Obama.
Didn't happen.
Yes, the Republicans are nothing but Democrat pawns. That's just rich. That's why the GOP has been filibustering almost every bill passing through congress... and all of those things they argue about, and that posters argue about on this board... no difference at all, right?
Nothing significant.
I ain't wasting time listing the similarities. Anyone that watched this last election with open eyes saw them.
It's the same thing seen in all elections since 1988.
The Americans are confronted with two blithering socialist idiots promising to move the nation farther away from the founding ideals expressed in the Constitution, the ideals that made this nation what it used to be. Since you people wanted a socialist island paradise like Cuba, you're going to get one.
Happy?
Since you know all the answer, what are "American values", and if they're so widespread, why did the majority of the country elect someone which, under your views, doesn't have them?
They're not widespread.
Only real men and real women can be Americans. You people have had a mental infection that worked something like the mumps, and you're no longer eligible for club membership.
Obama didn't win because Republicans didn't come out.
No. Obama has amazing teleprompter reading skills that I most certainly hope he can use to their fullest advantage to restore the authority of the Constitution to this former republic. It's the only road that doesn't lead downwards.
McCain didn't have that problem.
No. McCain lost because the Democrats have been dying to face McCain since 2000, at least. You don't wonder why?
Because McCain's a liberal. Amnesty on the mexican invasion, anti-border security, sounds like a Democrat (or a Bush, not much difference all around there), and has the speaking skills of Albore.
Teleprompter reading skills, the Democrat secret weapon!!!
Obama won because people came out to vote that had never voted before.
Glad you said "people", not Americans.
People are pretty damn stupid. Didn't "people" put Clinton in office, twice? All you have to do is take "people" by the nose and run around in circles, and they follow and have fun. "People" aren't very bright. You can tell. They elected Obama.
I think you're a bit mistaken on everything.
I know you're mistaken. You support Obama.
What specifically do you think McCain should have done differently, proposed policy wise?
Not a god damned thing. He's a socialist. No one would have believed him if he'd said anything useful. The mob of "people" are indoctrinated now that only socialism will rescue them, the few men that don't want "rescuing", that prefer freedom to socialist slavery, there's not enough of us left to turn an election when you people have the mob in it's perpetual stationary panic, which is nowhere near as much fun as the Modified Stationary Panic, if that reference means anything to you non-Americans.
Ever occur to you that the Democratic Party has America's best interest at heart too, they just disagree on how to best run this country?
You mean the Democrat Party that fought tooth and nail to stop Reagan from winning the Cold War, the Democratic Party that has as it's drunken elder statesman Teddy Drown'em and Rape'em Kennedy?
Ted Kennedy, the KBG, and Liberal Bias
When Boris Yeltsin came to power in Russia in 1991, he opened the Soviet archives. Tim Sebastian of the BBC and the London Times found a stunning document about Ted Kennedy. Sebastian published "Teddy, the KBG and the top secret file" in the London Times on February 2,1992. The liberal news media in the US never reported this story.
Paul Kendor, an author and professor of political science at Grove City College, was alerted by Marko Suprun about the Kennedy document. Suprun's father had survived Stalin's Russia (Ukraine) in the 1930's. Marko had been trying to get the American media to cover the Kennedy story without success. Marko knew that Paul Kendor had been researching Ronald Reagan and the Cold War, so he sent Kendor a copy.
Paul Kendor checked out the Kennedy document with Herb Romerstein, a respected Venona researcher and Communist Party expert. Also Harvard's Richard Pipes, along with other scholars read both the translations and the original.
In May 14,1983 Viktor Chebrikov , head of the KBG, wrote to Yuri Andropov about an offer from Sen. Ted Kennedy. Kennedy's friend, John Tunney, presented the letter. Kennedy blamed President Ronald Reagan for the bad relationship between the US and the USSR. Kennedy didn't like Star Wars, the MX, and the Pershing II's rockets. Kennedy wanted Ronald Reagan's re election bid stopped; so Kennedy offered a number of PR moves to counter Reagan's propaganda. He wanted to hook up the Soviets with the American media, like Walter Cronkite and Barbra Walters, to present the USSR's case to the American public.
Don't bother blathering about how I just linked a blog, one of the contemporaries covering that story was the American Spectator.
NEITHER the Democratic nor the Republican wings of the US Socialist Party has done a thing to stop the invasion of the United States by Mexico.
Nor have they worked effectively to end the welfare state causing all the deficit spending.
No. I can say categorically the Democrats are not working to preserve this country nor are they working in this nation's interests.
I'ts not hard to figure out. The deliberate courses of action taken, always in the wrong direction, always in against the Constitution, can't be due to accident or obtuseness (not even the Republicans can be that stupid). No. The party leaders aren't stupid people, they know what they're doing to us and for themselves.
Princess Pelosi needed her own jet transport because....?
She wanted one. And to think the idiots kept babbling about "King George Bush".
Isuldur? You may be the one poster here even nerdier than me. :mrgreen:
DAMN FEW people can create LOTR references and mention Modified Stationary Panic. Fewer can name the inventor of the MSP and where it was published without the internet.