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A Path to Republican Victory in the Shutdown?

jmotivator said:
[...] Under the low deductible plan you pay $4375 + 40% of the remainder = $26,625 out of pocket

Under the high deductible you pay $12,700 +20% of remainder = $22,160 out of pocket

So your "low deductible" plan costs $4000+ more to cover the same catastrophic expense... AND YOU PAY MORE PER MONTH FOR THE PRIVILEDGE. [....]
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You really, really should research the term "Annual Limit on Out-of-Pocket Expenses".

Really.
 
ernst barkmann said:
well I have said it several times the GOP has many factions, it not like the democratic party, It has liberals, conservatives, moderates, and even libertarians.
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It's this inability to face reality, and instead to substitute ideological googly glasses, which will assure that the GOP will sink into electoral irrelevancy in the future.
 
head of joaquin said:
It's this inability to face reality, and instead to substitute ideological googly glasses, which will assure that the GOP will sink into electoral irrelevancy in the future.
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excuse....... susan collins, Olympia Snowe, are not conservatives..they are liberal to moderate, mccain is a neo -con, as is Lindsay Graham......rand paul is a libertarian........its a mixed party.
 
ernst barkmann said:
excuse....... susan collins, Olympia Snowe, are not conservatives..they are liberal to moderate, mccain is a neo -con, as is Lindsay Graham......rand paul is a libertarian........its a mixed party.
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Yep, and so is the Democratic party. You missed the point in your urgency to show you were right about something I wasn't challenging (but probably could)
 
Jack Hays said:
The author outlines a bold strategy that surprisingly shows how Republicans could turn the tables on the Democrats.


  1. The Seinfeld shutdown


    Washington Post ‎- 21 hours ago
    The GOP should transform its impasse over nothing into a battle over spending.
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It didn't work. The GOP was completely humiliated and is in full retreat, lashing out at each other like bordello mistresses in a chick fight.
 
jmotivator said:
Pro-Tip: Those out of pocket caps have been delayed. There is no cap on your OOP in 2014, and possibly 2015. So cross your fingers!
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LOL... you finally did some research and found a loophole. If you read your own story (and your track record is not good on that) you will see that your claims are mostly false. In some circumstances there will be a 1 year delay in the absolute cap. Unfortunately this seems to be another case of private business working the loopholes and strongarming the government (as they did to get the 1 year delay in the employer mandate). However, full implementation will come, despite the current bumps in the road.

Under the policy, many group health plans will be able to maintain separate out-of-pocket limits for benefits in 2014. As a result, a consumer may be required to pay $6,350 for doctors’ services and hospital care, and an additional $6,350 for prescription drugs under a plan administered by a pharmacy benefit manager.

Some consumers may have to pay even more, as some group health plans will not be required to impose any limit on a patient’s out-of-pocket costs for drugs next year. If a drug plan does not currently have a limit on out-of-pocket costs, it will not have to impose one for 2014, federal officials said Monday.
The health law, signed more than three years ago by Mr. Obama, clearly established a single overall limit on out-of-pocket costs for each individual or family. But federal officials said that many insurers and employers needed more time to comply because they used separate companies to help administer major medical coverage and drug benefits, with separate limits on out-of-pocket costs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/us/a-limit-on-consumer-costs-is-delayed-in-health-care-law.html
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head of joaquin said:
[...] lashing out at each other like bordello mistresses in a chick fight.
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