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A noose was found in Bubba Wallace's garage stall, NASCAR says

ecofarm said:
Your post in question was racist garbage. It's bottom of the barrel racist scum fed as slop to intellectual pigs. Suggesting that Wallace is another "Smollett" is flat kkk bs.

No one called you a racist. So don't snowflake victim on us. We called your post racist trash.

And, in fact, is was a ****ing noose and you denying that is racist garbage as well.

In summary, your post was racist trash in a number of ways.
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You saw a photo of this 'noose'? Where is it?
 
Diesel said:
That isn't what happened.

Bubba Wallace, NASCAR and investigating a hate crime - What we know and don't know after the FBI's findings
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That is exactly what happened, no matter how obtusely you read a weak ESPN narrative attempt to make an obvious and undisputed debacle palatable.

The facts:

- Wallace was not targeted. The so-called "noose" was fashioned 8 or more months before he was assigned the garage bay.

- The "noose" was not likely that of a classic hangman's noose, it was (by all appearances) one of the basic knots, loops, and slip knots taught to boy scouts, boaters, climbers, truckers and others used as gripping for hands and objects.

- More importantly there is no evidence it was used for any other purpose than a hand sized pull, and accordingly was attached to the pull down door (that should have given the alarmists a hint, ya think?).

- There is no evidence that some unknown "anti-racist" makes door hand loops just to provoke an unknown black person some 8 months hence.

- There is no evidence that NASCAR or Wallace had the slightest good sense to even look (let alone use) the hand sized pull before leaping to hysterical conclusions, and approaching the media to start a circus and new false national outpouring of gushing tears over Bubba Wallace being the victim of some bodyman inspired racial threat.

Now, I imagine that you see some kind of small "loophole" (pun intended) in the FBI's insistent use of the term "noose" or that "for some reason" this garage had one unlike other garages. Dropping unstated nefarious and conspiratorial hints known only to you - something that neither the FBI, NASCAR, or you are willing to openly assert as a theory (most likely because it would only make them more foolish). So there is no need to explain two irrelevancies that don't change the fact that Wallace, NASCAR, and the rest of their supporters made false assumptions and look like gullible idiots.

So instead of imagining sinister and profane intent into utility knots and loops used as an an everyday garage pull, I suggest you get a "grip" (pun not intended) - begin by:

"The Seven Knots you need to know...or you're a sissy"

YouTube

Pay close attention to:

The Bowline
The Figure 8 loop
The Taunt Line Hitch

Now move on.
 
maxparrish said:
That is exactly what happened, no matter how obtusely you read a weak ESPN narrative attempt to make an obvious and undisputed debacle palatable.

The facts:

- Wallace was not targeted. The so-called "noose" was fashioned 8 or more months before he was assigned the garage bay.

- The "noose" was not likely that of a classic hangman's noose, it was (by all appearances) one of the basic knots, loops, and slip knots taught to boy scouts, boaters, climbers, truckers and others used as gripping for hands and objects.

- More importantly there is no evidence it was used for any other purpose than a hand sized pull, and accordingly was attached to the pull down door (that should have given the alarmists a hint, ya think?).

- There is no evidence that some unknown "anti-racist" makes door hand loops just to provoke an unknown black person some 8 months hence.

- There is no evidence that NASCAR or Wallace had the slightest good sense to even look (let alone use) the hand sized pull before leaping to hysterical conclusions, and approaching the media to start a circus and new false national outpouring of gushing tears over Bubba Wallace being the victim of some bodyman inspired racial threat.

Now, I imagine that you see some kind of small "loophole" (pun intended) in the FBI's insistent use of the term "noose" or that "for some reason" this garage had one unlike other garages. Dropping unstated nefarious and conspiratorial hints known only to you - something that neither the FBI, NASCAR, or you are willing to openly assert as a theory (most likely because it would only make them more foolish). So there is no need to explain two irrelevancies that don't change the fact that Wallace, NASCAR, and the rest of their supporters made false assumptions and look like gullible idiots.
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You appear to have gotten confused about what post you're responding to because you clearly aren't talking to me. I haven't dropped any "nefarious and conspiratorial hints" of any kind. You could always try reading, but that would take time away from your incessant rants that have little or no grounding in reality.


So instead of imagining sinister and profane intent into utility knots and loops used as an an everyday garage pull, I suggest you get a "grip" (pun not intended) - begin by:

"The Seven Knots you need to know...or you're a sissy"

YouTube

Pay close attention to:

The Bowline
The Figure 8 loop
The Taunt Line Hitch

Now move on.
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Diesel said:
You appear to have gotten confused about what post you're responding to because you clearly aren't talking to me. I haven't dropped any "nefarious and conspiratorial hints" of any kind. You could always try reading, but that would take time away from your incessant rants that have little or no grounding in reality.
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Do you have a problem with actually answering the points made, or retracting your tripe over people being bad if they don't see the horrible "thing" directed at Wallace?

And you haven't dropped any hints, but given your inexplicable use of an article that YOU THOUGHT refuted my characterization I assumed you agreed with its "hints" as being important. Now that you run from that, may we assume you now retract your unsupported assertions?
 
maxparrish said:
Do you have a problem with actually answering the points made, or retracting your tripe over people being bad if they don't see the horrible "thing" directed at Wallace?

And you haven't dropped any hints, but given your inexplicable use of an article that YOU THOUGHT refuted my characterization I assumed you agreed with its "hints" as being important. Now that you run from that, may we assume you now retract your unsupported assertions?
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Nope, you may not. And you also may not imagine things that never happened and things I never said. That is often a symptom of more concerning problems.
 
Diesel said:
Nope, you may not. And you also may not imagine things that never happened and things I never said. That is often a symptom of more concerning problems.
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Dodging isn't an argument. Try again.
 
maxparrish said:
Dodging isn't an argument. Try again.
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I didn't dodge anything. You want to attribute to me things I never said. I don't care what you think you can infer from reading an article that I posted that didn't even infer the things you think it did.
 
Diesel said:
By being a racist.
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Joe Biden, your hero eulogized a KKK exalted cyclops. The same man who who referred to blacks as Mongrels. The same man who said in 2001, 9 years before his death "There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time."
The man who euologized that man is the guy you are voting for, the same man who looks at african Americans and sorts them as being "clean" or not. He was surprised that Obama was clean AND articulate.

You all keep calling us the racists but from my chair the only racists that the facts keep pointing to are leftists. Your torn and tattered race cards are a mask used to hide the lefts stone cold history of actual racism.

I'm not the one cheering as primarily black neighborhoods are being looted and burned to the ground. Could you tell us why you are?
 
Fred C Dobbs II said:
The backward members of the KKK were the militant wing of the Democratic Party and now the Left is using the same tactic with the looters, rioters and the those defacing and destroying statues. They want control and will physically or otherwise intimidate anyone who dares disagree with their demands.

The link between the KKK of yesterday and the vandals we see today, apart from the Democratic Party connection, is not racism but is instead their raw ignorance and blatant stupidity.
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Oh please....get a brain.
 
AlphaOmega said:
Joe Biden, your hero eulogized a KKK exalted cyclops. The same man who who referred to blacks as Mongrels. The same man who said in 2001, 9 years before his death "There are white niggers. I've seen a lot of white niggers in my time."
The man who euologized that man is the guy you are voting for, the same man who looks at african Americans and sorts them as being "clean" or not. He was surprised that Obama was clean AND articulate.

You all keep calling us the racists but from my chair the only racists that the facts keep pointing to are leftists. Your torn and tattered race cards are a mask used to hide the lefts stone cold history of actual racism.

I'm not the one cheering as primarily black neighborhoods are being looted and burned to the ground. Could you tell us why you are?
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Biden's not anyone's hero, he just the vastly lesser evil.
 
Diesel said:
This news broke my heart when I heard it the other day. I don't know why there are 97 pages to this thread, but anyone who in any way, shape, or form tries to explain, minimize, justify, or deny this is simply a bad person. There's no way around it.
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You probably should have read some recent material before posting on this thread. Would have saved you some embarrassment.
 
For anyone wondering, this appears to possibly be the knot in question.

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I just think people need to stop overreacting. This was an overreaction. Nooses are types of knots. Yes, they have been used in the past to kill people. But it is also just a knot used for other purposes. If you look for racism or bias, you will find it, but that doesnt mean that is really what it is.

(Honestly it is very hard to tell if that is a noose or another knot from the photo, but it is much too small to reasonably be intimidating.)



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avatar said:
Best explanation yet. Still, to the average non knot specialist, it appears to be a noose. At least that's what the FBI and NASCAR thought. So you can understand that to all but the most expert knotty knot people it's a noose. Full points however for making a reasonable explanation and for not just being an asshole and screaming "knot a noose".
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What nonsense. A pull loop on a garage door only looks like a noose to those who see racism everywhere and anywhere, even where it does not exist. Those loops had hung in those garages for years and no one saw them as a hangmans noose. Put a black man in the vicinity and suddenly we have a hangmans noose.
 
avatar said:
And you're the one denying a picture of it and an FBI report. Enjoy your fantasy, this is getting booring.
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The picture doesn't show a noose. And its stupid for the FBI to refer to it as a noose if it does not function as a noose or a slip knot.
 
calamity said:
And...drink
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What else can lefty do, its not like you can defend your candidates history or racism and support of exalted cyclopses in the KKK.
Get hangover medicine because I am going to shove Byrd squarely up the proverbial forum asses of every leftist here crying about racism. I enjoy telling lefties what hypocrites they are. Their anger amuses me.
Now you play your drinking game for me. I want to watch you run from defending biden and his factual racism.

bu bu bu.....Robert E Lee statue....what idiots.
 
rocket88 said:
Oh please....get a brain.
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You don't see the parallels?

The KKK were all Democrats and the rioters, looters and arsonists would be Democrats also, which is why Democrats won't condemn them.. Instead these vandals and rapists were "Summer Of Love" characters.
 
dixon01767 said:
The picture doesn't show a noose. And its stupid for the FBI to refer to it as a noose if it does not function as a noose or a slip knot.
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Interesting the FBI showed it to no one, and returned it to NASCAR who also won't show it to the public.

What are they hiding? Anyone want to state the obvious?
 
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