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A New Religion

Elora said:
And only He has the power to give life back...so?
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Aside from the fact that you can't prove that, it changes absolutely NOTHING regarding what I posted.

The biblical god kills regardless of innocence or not.
 
Gordy327 said:
So you're referring to the figure Santa is based on, and not the figure of popular culture and story who rides a flying sled?
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I'm referring to Nicholas Of Myra, the real person. The guy with the flying sled was based on him. You can't make the real person go away by invoking the mythical person.
 
it's just me said:
I'm referring to Nicholas Of Myra, the real person. The guy with the flying sled was based on him. You can't make the real person go away by invoking the mythical person.
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No one is trying to make the real person go away. They are talking about the fictional Santa Claus based on him, just like the fictional bible version of Jesus based on a real person.
 
Dragonfly said:
WHAT????

If the story of Noah and "the great flood" is to be taken literally, then god killed tons of innocent.
Babies still in the womb. Infants. Toddlers. Children. Adolescents.
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The Bible doesn't say that, you made it up, as atheists are wont to do.
Dragonfly said:
Not to mention all the land animals, birds, mammals, reptiles, insects, and most fish, amphibians, and sea life in general since you'd have a ginormous imbalance of salt and fresh water that would effect all the critters who live in those ecosystems.
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it's just me said:
The Bible doesn't say that, you made it up, as atheists are wont to do.
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The Bible does cover its ass quite well. God only kills the wicked, including babies. Those wicked babies sure caused a lot of trouble in biblical stories.
 
devildavid said:
The Bible does cover its ass quite well. God only kills the wicked, including babies. Those wicked babies sure caused a lot of trouble in biblical stories.
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Much more merciful than leaving them as orphans, to die in the elements, don't cha think?
 
it's just me said:
The Bible doesn't say that, you made it up, as atheists are wont to do.
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What humans, other than those on the Ark, survived the "great flood"?

If your answer is "none", then there's only two assumptions one can make:

1) children and fetuses died
2) there were no pregnant ladies, no babies, and no children alive at the time

Which of those two options are you gonna go with?
 
FreedomFromAll said:
AH yes, it's all about politics am I right?

Fact: the left appropriated "woke" from the black community and changed the meaning and usage of the concept of being woke.. Historical usage of woke, wokeness, stay awake, etc whereas if you are dark skinned you need to stay alert to racism in certain places, by certain people, and in certain situations. White people who think that they are woke are in the same boat as other white people who engage in verbally attacking people of color. One can stay aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality even if you are not a person of color. But white people claiming to be woke are on the wrong boat.

White people cannot be woke.

It is a bit more complicated than political rhetoric between the left and right which ignores that racism is not a divisive left-right thing where one side is presumed racist and the other is not. Humans are humans, some learned to be racists and/or bigots and some learned not to be those things. The left version of woke though is just an attack on the right and does more harm than good for racial relations across the board. Your own response above proves that point. You framed racism as a division between left and right.

The theory of left and right is a global belief system, that is too ambiguous to be taken seriously. The left blames Nazism on the right and the right blames Communism on the left. Both of those systems of so-called governance share many aspects. And they go further; the leftist argument is that Nazism and Soviet, Maoist Communism are actually right-wing examples. While the extreme right asserts that not only are those types of Communism are leftist but so is Nazism.

They cannot both be right so logically they are both wrong.

And back to my point: It is in fact an insult to accuse someone of not being aware of racial injustices. Calling someone unwoke is the same as calling someone a racist. Calling someone a racist is a pejorative even if that person is a racist.
Calling racists, racists will never make those idiots not racist. Racists are proud of their racism so telling them that they are not woke is like a badge to them. And if the intent is to think that there are non-racists in 2022 that are not aware of racial injustice is incredibly arrogant lording at best. And add to that the need for non-racists to be on the left, outs the actual intent of division.

So yes saying that someone is not woke is pejorative/political rhetoric that does more harm than good to racial relations and the hope to live in a better world.
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No, the left does not use the word woke, in and of itself, as a pejorative like the right uses it. The right calls someone woke as a flat out insult.
 
Elora said:
Much more merciful than leaving them as orphans, to die in the elements, don't cha think?
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Why not ask Noah to gather them on the Ark as well? It is just as unrealistic as gathering all the animals so it shouldn't have been no problem for god to facilitate. It's just a silly bible myth that has no real lesson to teach, like most silly religious myths.
 
Elora said:
Much more merciful than leaving them as orphans, to die in the elements, don't cha think?
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That sounds like an advocacy for abortion.
 
Gordy327 said:
That sounds like an advocacy for abortion.
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Yeah, it sure does, doesn't it...the only difference is, the Life Giver is the only One who has the right to take that life away...
 
Elora said:
Yeah, it sure does, doesn't it...the only difference is, the Life Giver is the only One who has the right to take that life away...
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Why? Says who?
 
Elora said:
The Life Giver, that's who...

"Thou knowest the commandments, Do not kill..." Mark 10:19
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Funny how God gets s free pass for the very things he tells us not to do. That's quite hypocritical.
 
Patriotic Voter said:
Obviously because nothing can happen without a reason for it.
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The world largely consists of random events, from the atomic level to the galactic - and upwards.
 
Dragonfly said:
What humans, other than those on the Ark, survived the "great flood"?

If your answer is "none", then there's only two assumptions one can make:

1) children and fetuses died
2) there were no pregnant ladies, no babies, and no children alive at the time

Which of those two options are you gonna go with?
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That is where you err, assumption makes an ass out of you and me. Mostly you, in this case.

Again, your presumptions dont match the text.
 
devildavid said:
No, the left does not use the word woke, in and of itself, as a pejorative like the right uses it. The right calls someone woke as a flat out insult.
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Meanwhile, it is not about the left or the right, it's about rights that people of color demand. Grant it we as a people need to address what the Republican party has become, but that really is outside of the subject of wokeness. Wokeness is the vigilance that people of color need to navigate a nation that has a lot of racists, bigots and a bad history starting with slavery. The lefts appropriation of woke is an insult to people of color. And your ignorance on the subject is a problem just as important to address as the Republicans.
 
it's just me said:
That is where you err, assumption makes an ass out of you and me. Mostly you, in this case.

Again, your presumptions dont match the text.
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You failed to answer the question. Not shocked.

What humans (besides the ones on the Ark) survived the "great flood" in the Noah's Ark story?

Can you answer a simple question?
 
it's just me said:
That is where you err, assumption makes an ass out of you and me. Mostly you, in this case.

Again, your presumptions dont match the text.
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Big deal. it's just stupid mythological story that naive adults take way too seriously.
 
Dragonfly said:
You failed to answer the question. Not shocked.

What humans (besides the ones on the Ark) survived the "great flood" in the Noah's Ark story?

Can you answer a simple question?
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The question was stupid. Not surprising. The answer was that you didn't have enough data to answer it. So take the information as given and go with that instead of making up your own story.
 
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