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Here is a fun clip from the Lone-Gunmen "pilot" TV show. (X-Files spin off)

Obviously I am not posting this as "evidence," rather as an astronomically strange coincidence.

The only explanantion I can think of is that the writer could have consulted a friend or friends in the CIA/FBI which offered "ideas" which they were privy to that would serve as a good story line for a TV show.

After all truth seems to be much stranger than fiction.

Can you imagine having watched this episode on March 4, and then seen a nearly identical event unfold in real life on Sept 11?

Talk about getting "freaked out!"

This "pilot" aired on March 4, 2001 (six months before 9-11)

It is astonishing how much the "Hollywood" writers appear to know about the motivations of the Trade Tower Conspiracy; compared to how little Ms. Rice claims anyone could have possibly known about "planes slamming into the world trade center."

I find this quite remarkable.....I hope you do to: enjoy!

http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/Lone%20Gunmen/lonegunmanpilot.wmv

Enjoy!
 
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Re: A FUN VIDEO CLIP; for conspiracy theorists.

I thought about that episode several times
 

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Re: A FUN VIDEO CLIP; for conspiracy theorists.

i've heard about that, but hadnt seen it till now. thanks for the link, appreciate it.
 

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Re: A FUN VIDEO CLIP; for conspiracy theorists.

I am not sure that I buy the conspiacy part of it. But in July of 2000 I was in Chicago for the "Taste of Chicago" and as we were walking I looked up at Sears Tower and asked, "What keeps an aiplane from hitting that building?". The people I was with laughed at me and said that would never happen. I Then said that a terrorist could do it. Now how the president's henchmen say that they could have never forseen this, I don't know. Either they are incredibly stupid, or your conspiracy has legs. I am thinking the former.
 

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Re: A FUN VIDEO CLIP; for conspiracy theorists.

independent_thinker2002 said:
....as we were walking I looked up at Sears Tower and asked, "What keeps an aiplane from hitting that building?". The people I was with laughed at me and said that would never happen. I Then said that a terrorist could do it. Now how the president's henchmen say that they could have never forseen this, I don't know. Either they are incredibly stupid, or your conspiracy has legs. I am thinking the former.
Larry Silverstein, WTC Leaseholder and assoc.; are in the process of purchasing the Sears Tower.

http://www.realestatejournal.com/propertyreport/newsandtrends/20040312-starkman.html
 

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Re: Short Video : Secret Evil of 911

Well, I know this is the conspiracy theory forum, so I don't want to blast anyone for being a conspiracy theorist - but here are some bad things about the movie.

1) Why all of the horrible music? It make the movie unbearable to watch. Why do the words dramatically have to appear on the screen instead of a narrator telling us what;s going on. That's just poor production.

2) There is no justification for taking the WTC7 developer's words out of context. If the best conspiracy theorists have to offer is the "pull-it" quote, they have nothing.

3) Alex Jones is crazy and paranoid. I heard him on the Art Bell show last year saying that nuclear war is imminent within the next couple of weeks.
 

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Merged the three threads having to do with 911 into one...

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9/11 conspiracy on Fox Binghampton

Here is a couple Fox news broadcasts that seem to be promoting the 9/11 conspiracy documentary Loosechange. This is very bizzare as they have been instramental in covering up the conspiracy from day one. Anyone who knows anything that is really happeneing in the world known that the corporate media is controlled by the same interests as those behind these attacks. Apperantly they know the lid is about to blow. Watch 'em and weep fellas..

http://www.wicz.com/fox40/video.asp?video=/12-02+Terror+Conspiracy.wmv

http://www.wicz.com/fox40/video.asp?video=/12-01+Trade+Center+Attack.wmv
 

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How could anyone not through 9/11

It really is beyond me that there are still people out there that do not see through the lies of 9/11 and know it was perpetrated by rouge factions of the US government and military industrial complex. My guess is that they simply have not done the research, and have relied exclusively on the corporate controlled main stream media. There is such a enormous amount of evidence one could spend week researching it and still discover new things they were not aware of before. For those who still do not see through the deception here is an extensive but not all inclusive archive of news reports that cleary show premeditated involvenmnet. Many will try to dismiss the subject all together perhaps with personal attacks on the person who runs the website. That sort of ignorance will not get you anywhere except deeper in ignorance. The majority of these articles are from main stream news sources. Read the article and look at the source before blatanly discrediting all of it based on a dislike of the particular website they are linked from. Read through all these articles giving them honest consideration then come back and give your opinion.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html
 

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Why did you merge these threads into one? These were on totally different aspects of 9/11 and were new topics themselves having nothing to do with the origional post. This thread was about a TV show. If someone is not interested in the first post of the thread they wont even read my topics. I don't see why there should only be one thread on 9/11 unless they are discussing the same aspect of it. Is your Iraq war forum just one thread long? I am totally confused. One thing for sure is this is going to be one hellava long thread by the time I am done with it.
 

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RealityCheck said:
Why did you merge these threads into one? These were on totally different aspects of 9/11 and were new topics themselves having nothing to do with the origional post. This thread was about a TV show. If someone is not interested in the first post of the thread they wont even read my topics. I don't see why there should only be one thread on 9/11 unless they are discussing the same aspect of it. Is your Iraq war forum just one thread long? I am totally confused. One thing for sure is this is going to be one hellava long thread by the time I am done with it.
If there was a need to create a whole 911 Conspracy Forum, it would have been done by now...

There's no need when a minimal amount of forum members decide through their starting of threads that this would be warranted...One person starting multiple threads dealing with the same topic from several angles won't change that...
 

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Alex Jones is crazy and paranoid. I heard him on the Art Bell show last year saying that nuclear war is imminent within the next couple of weeks
No you didn't. For one thing, he's never been on with 'Art Bell', he's been on with George Noory. And he's never stated that nuclear war was imminent in the 'next couple weeks'. I'm not trying to defend Alex Jones, but this statement is false..


Larry Silverstein

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

- World Trade Center lease holder, Larry Silverstein, commenting on the collapse of Building 7 in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds" that aired in September of 2002

You can listen to Silverstein's comments here:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/PULLIT.mp3

Or watch a video clip of them here:
http://pfabf.com/uploads/larrysayspulli.wmv

In the same documentary a cleanup worker refers to the demolition of WTC 6 which occurred months after 9/11:

"... we're getting ready to pull building six."

Listen here: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pull-it2.mp3

Here are some quick facts concerning Mr. Silverstein:

FACT: Larry Silverstein purchased the property rights of all 7 buildings of the WTC six weeks before September 11, 2001 with a single down payment of $100 million, despite high vacancy rates of offices at the WTC.

FACT: This was the first time that the WTC had changed hands in its thirty year history.

FACT: The WTC complex was not insured against an act of war, but new policies were added prior to 9/11 that insured against terrorist damage.

FACT: Silverstein sought to double his insurance payout to 7 billion dollars claiming the 2 planes were 2 separate attacks.

The decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have made a lot of people happy:

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"From my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site, is the actual side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse."

Live CNN report from Jamie McIntyre at the Pentagon on 9/11
Video excerpt:
http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/27_1-mcintyre.swf

Entire Jamie McIntyre Live Report from the Pentagon:
http://terrorize.dk/911/pentagon1/911.pentagon.jamie.mcintyre.wmv

This is the only footage of the Pentagon attack that has been released to the public. It was captured by a camera mounted near a security gate on Pentagon grounds:



CNN - 'Images show September 11 Pentagon crash'
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07/gen.pentagon.pictures/

USA Today - NORAD had drills of jets as weapons
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htm

CBS - Prior Knowledge (1 minute video clip) http://terrorize.dk/911/news/911.cbs.cia.knew.too.wmv

Report: FBI Informant Knew 9/11 Hijackers - The Associated Press:
http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11/questions/fbi-informant-knew-911-hijackers.txt

"A Closer Look" - Ignored Warnings (3 minute video clip):
http://terrorize.dk/911/news/911.news.ignored.warnings.rm

USA TODAY - 9/11 panel blasts CIA, FBI's lapses in coming report
http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11/questions/fbi-informant-had-numerous-contacts-with-hijackers.txt

Who Knew? The unanswered questions of 9/11, By Seth Ackerman, 9.3.03: http://newsmine.org/archive/9-11/questions/who-knew-911.txt


"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."
-Condoleezza Rice, May 16, 2002

Even though the United States government denies that they did not know that an attack such as 9/11 was coming, U.S. officials and the media magically announced within hours of the attacks that it was 19 Muslim "terrorists" (along with their names and pictures) that 'hijacked' the doomed flights and were also agents of Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda "network".

'99 Report Warned Of Suicide Hijacking
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/05/17/attack/main509471.shtml
 

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Pg 6: 4. We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.

Pg 8: 3. A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged in several forms:
a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba.

Pg 10: 8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner...

Pg 10: 8a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

Pg 10: 8b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled,to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to " sell" the incident.

- Excerpts from the Official Northwoods Documents, 1962

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And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word "terrorized" is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be.

-Donald Rumsfeld, surprise Christmas Eve visit to Iraq, 2004
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"We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate
outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th, malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty."

-GW Bush speaking before the UN GeGeneral Assembly 11/10/2001


 

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I guess i dont understand how this forum is run than. In every other forum I have participated in the last 10 years, it was always expected and enforced that the replies stay on topic to the thread. It is noramlly considered rude to "highjack a thread" . Thats when someone is trying to debate or discuss a particular event, then someone else buts in with a comment unrelated and the thread veers off on a tangent. The origional poster does not get to discuss his point, instead others take over discussing something else. I guess thats what you want to happen to the origional poster. Now we can ignore what he had to say, and have a confusing thread, with some repliying to the TV show, some people talking about the bizzare Fox news cast, and than some discussing certain pieces of evidence that questions there opinions on the events of 9/11. Like 10 people all talking over one another. This is a totally scatter brained disorganized and frankly moronic way to run a forum. Apparently this is done to squash the threads the moderators do not agree with. Its a childish form of censorship.
 
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