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So then this poll has no validity to you?Trajan Octavian Titus said:I did read the link and I stopped after I saw this:
according to a poll by Rasmussen Reports for AfterDowningStreet.org. 32 per cent of
so it's you who looks the fool if you believe a word off of that sight or any group associated with it;
Polling Data
If the 2008 election for president were being held today, and the candidates were Hillary Rodham Clinton the Democrat and John McCain the Republican for whom would you vote?
Dec. 2005 Mar. 2005
John McCain (R) 44% 43%
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 40% 41%
Source: Quinnipiac University Polling Institute
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,230 registered American voters, conducted from Nov. 28 to Dec. 4, 2005. Margin of error is 3.2 per cent
BTW - Here's a link to the Rasmussen website page that reported the actual findings of the poll.
Source: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Impeachment.htm
Trajan Octavian Titus said:furthermore, by scientifically accurate perhaps they asked the questions similar along the lines of the continuosly biased polls that ask misdirecting and two pronged questions and then try to claim they say something that they don't I don't trust any poll unless I see the exact questions being asked and not what the poll takers say the results mean . . .
You asked to see the exact question from the poll, no problem, here it is:
Seems like a pretty straight forward question IMHO. Does it sound manipulated by you?Should President Bush be Impeached and Removed from Office?
Plus, if you read the page from the link provided you will note the demographic (I like that word, much better than repubographic :smile: ) breakdown by party affiliation AND how people would be swayed by a candidate who runs vowing to vote to have Bush indicted. Nothing that I read sounds bogus, prejudiced or biased in any way. Actually, it seems spot on to me.
The science of polling is quite well established as is the methodology. Rasmussen is as respected as any other organization. Do you know what their final poll looked for the 2004 presidential election? Here's a reminder:Trajan Octavian Titus said:oh and look at the bottom of this page not only is it a poll conducted by AfterDowningStreet it is a telephone poll with a research group of only 1,000 people that is nowhere near enough for an accurate polling sample what was the methodolgy in selecting said people did they call up a thousand people in Boston Mass.? Where's the link to the research methodology involvede? Seriously dude don't believe everything you read.
Source: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htmPresidential Tracking Poll: Bush-Kerry
Election 2004
Final Projection
Bush 50.2%
Kerry 48.5%
Other 1.3%
President George W. Bush won the popular vote on November 2 by a 50.7% to 48.2% margin over Senator John Kerry. The final Rasmussen Reports projection had shown the President winning 50.2% to 48.5%.
Our final polling state-by-state polling results were also validated by actual election returns. We correctly showed Florida and Ohio breaking for the President while Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota were heading for the Kerry column.
The Wall Street Journal named Rasmussen Reports one of the "big winners" of Election 2004. Later this month, we will release a special report on Election 2004 and what it means for the country over the next four years
Polling, to me, can be extremely accurate (hence the "margin of error") when conducted using 1000 people can be right on. If you read the bottom of the page of the last link I provided it says:
The final Rasmussen Reports Electoral College projection showed Bush with 222 Electoral Votes and Kerry with 186. For the second straight Presidential Election, every state that we projected for a candidate was won by that candidate. Additionally, each of the Toss-Up states was won by the person leading in our final poll.
That's one valid point of view. Another valid point of view, one that I subscribe to is that each time after an election in Iraq Bush's numbers have temporarily spiked up only to fall again 30-60 days later as the fighting and dead increased and after the actual results of the election became clear.Trajan Octavian Titus said:Oh and P.S. Bush has gone up in the Polls because the people are not swayed by the liberal media
The next important poll is in November 2006 and no one knows at this time what the results will be. Shall we take a poll?