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Why do I suspect this was a poll of registered voters? :lol:
Well DUH! If Voter ID laws are passed then thousands of unregistered voters will be disenfranchised!!Why do I suspect this was a poll of registered voters? :lol:
Drive a car? Yep have to have an ID.What's more racist asking for id or assuming some one based on their skin color doesn't have the means or the ability to get an id?
Unregistered voters are already disenfranchised by their own inaction. Should have people go door to door with a voting machine just in case someone there forgot to register and forgot to vote as well to maximize democratic turnout. I am sure the unions would send people to do that in swing states.Well DUH! If Voter ID laws are passed then thousands of unregistered voters will be disenfranchised!!![]()
So on average, 82.5% of everybody supports it?
Have a problem with school Id as we are enrollong illegal immagrants and foreigners into our school system.also the availability of the Id can not come at cost of the integrity of the id.had no idea Voter ID laws were racist in general?
while i think its a complete waste of time and money "I" support Voter ID law and im a non-white as long as it falls under the following.
free and easily accessible like at schools, post offices, where the voting polls are, SS offices, libraries etc
and as long as other IDs are also accepted, drivers licenses, pass ports, weapon permits, photo school IDs, military IDs etc.
if it doesn't follow that or something similar then id never support because it would be discriminatory (anybody honest can see that) mainly to the poorer people and elderly. Now if the majority of the effected people are also minorities i dont know but that doesnt matter to me since unless it fits my criteria its a crock and already discriminatory.
if the person isnt a citizen what would his ID cross reference with?Have a problem with school Id as we are enrollong illegal immagrants and foreigners into our school system.also the availability of the Id can not come at cost of the integrity of the id.
People that aren't citizens actually have been able to registar to vote in some situations so it is a issue.if the person isnt a citizen what would his ID cross reference with?
i dont know maybe its just me and what im exposed to but when i vote they cross reference your id and or name with registered voters list. So if the person isnt a citizen how would they get on that list in the first place.
and if there are cases where this can happen then it can happen for any ID and all the other systems need fixed how do you get any of those things to say you are a citizen without a SSN or other ID and if theres fraud going on then that fraud needs to be attacked and i wouldnt support voter ID until the other systems are fixed.
unregistered voters are already disenfranchised by their own inaction. Should have people go door to door with a voting machine just in case someone there forgot to register and forgot to vote as well to maximize democratic turnout. I am sure the unions would send people to do that in swing states.
How does voting on election day suppress voting? You can always file an absentee ballot if you think you might not be able to make it in on election day.However, early voting, same-day registration, and Sunday-prior-to-election voting are all part and parcel of the voter suppression efforts in several of the states controlled by the GOP...which was all done - in their words - to stop 'unregistered voters' from voting...
an almost non excistant one so the issue is the checks and balances of other documents/IDs and unless thouse are addressed FIRST i dont support voter ID.People that aren't citizens actually have been able to registar to vote in some situations so it is a issue.
But your ok with trying to stop one nut case from getting a gun while making it harder for the millions of law abiding gun owners doesn't that seen to be a little hypocritical.an almost non excistant one so the issue is the checks and balances of other documents/IDs and unless thouse are addressed FIRST i dont support voter ID.
why? because like i already said its a waste of time and money for a fantasy problem and while i totally support making voting more secure i wont support it at the expense of denying scores of legit voters.
Its the same way i feel about gun laws, im totally fine with gun laws as long as they dont punish me the honest citizen and empower the criminals.
so basically what im getting at is im fine with my criteria if its dont they way i stated because denying even 1000 false votes to me isnt worth denying or making it very hard for a million other legit votes.
especially since we have the EC.
WIth that said, if the standard for college IDs is that low, then i may be fine with removing them.
My main motivation for having them there was student voters that cant get back or vote in their home polls
huh? obviously you didnt read my post because it says nothign of the sort, it actually says i dont want to punish the law abdiding gun ownersBut your ok with trying to stop one nut case from getting a gun while making it harder for the millions of law abiding gun owners doesn't that seen to be a little hypocritical.
so no there no hypocrisy at all its actually very consistantits the same way i feel about gun laws, im totally fine with gun laws as long as they dont punish me the honest citizen and empower the criminals.
I think it was Specklebang who said a few days ago, in response to someone who said paying for voter ID was a form of poll tax and thus unconstitional, that by that logic requiring someone to use gas in their car to drive to a polling station is a poll tax and all polling stations should be within easy walking distance even for the elderly and the handicapped. Perhaps you should be able to vote from home, and maybe they could whip up lunch for you too while they're at it.Unregistered voters are already disenfranchised by their own inaction. Should have people go door to door with a voting machine just in case someone there forgot to register and forgot to vote as well to maximize democratic turnout. I am sure the unions would send people to do that in swing states.
Apparently it's a popular practice.Good catch. I was wondering about that myself.