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8-year-old boy dies in US custody on Christmas

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So, it looks like the nation has reached a cross-roads. Will we be Trumpian scrooges or humanitarians who actually give a rat's ass about what happens to tiny Tim? It's time to decide between the two on this holiday which is supposed to remind us all that people like Trump are not who we are.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/guatemalan-boy-dies-in-us-custody/index.html

An 8-year-old Guatemalan boy has died in the custody of US Customs and Border Protection, the agency said Tuesday. The boy, who was the detained with his father, started showing signs of illness Monday and died in a New Mexico hospital on Christmas Day. The Guatemalan government has been notified and is in touch with the father and any family members in Guatemala, CBP said.

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started showing signs of illness Monday and died in a New Mexico hospital
So he got sick on Monday, was obviously brought to a hospital,which most would see as a rational course of action, but Trump.....omg, but Trump.
 

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So he got sick on Monday, was obviously brought to a hospital,which most would see as a rational course of action, but Trump.....omg, but Trump.

Glad to see you made your choice.
 

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Glad to see you made your choice.

Do you know more than the article reveals? Based on the info available,
Trumpian scrooges or humanitarians who actually give a rat's ass about what happens
is jumping to conclusion?
 

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So, it looks like the nation has reached a cross-roads. Will we be Trumpian scrooges or humanitarians who actually give a rat's ass about what happens to tiny Tim? It's time to decide between the two on this holiday which is supposed to remind us all that people like Trump are not who we are.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/guatemalan-boy-dies-in-us-custody/index.html



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So they notice he is sick but do not understand that he has some undetectable Guatamalen disease... they rush him to hospital, treat him with anti-biotics and then he suddenly starts vomitting and dies IN ONE HOUR and you think that this is somehow Trumps fault? How about we look at this impartially and understand that this is the very reason that we do not want these people in the country in the first place... imagine this ****head parent enrolling his little kid into 3rd Grade and infecting dozens of innocent children... killing them.
 

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So, it looks like the nation has reached a cross-roads. Will we be Trumpian scrooges or humanitarians who actually give a rat's ass about what happens to tiny Tim? It's time to decide between the two on this holiday which is supposed to remind us all that people like Trump are not who we are.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/guatemalan-boy-dies-in-us-custody/index.html



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What, specifically, do you think Trump and his "scrooges" did to this little boy?
 

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How is Trump supposed to stop the Obama death panels from doing their jobs like in this kids case?

/sarcasm

We should wait and see what the illness was that resulted on this kids death before we start pointing fingers
 

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It's nice to see that i was right.
 

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The diagnosis at the hospital was a common cold and the boy was released. The boy was given prescriptions for amoxicillin (an antibiotic) and the painkiller ibuprofen, but it is unknown if these prescriptions were filled and administered. After experiencing nausea and vomiting that night, the boy was taken back to the hospital where he died an hour later. The cause of death remains unknown.

Guatemalan boy, 8, dies in immigration custody after being diagnosed with a cold
 

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What, specifically, do you think Trump and his "scrooges" did to this little boy?

The hospital was staffed with Trump scrooges upon the boy's arrival. Can't you see that?
 

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So, it looks like the nation has reached a cross-roads. Will we be Trumpian scrooges or humanitarians who actually give a rat's ass about what happens to tiny Tim? It's time to decide between the two on this holiday which is supposed to remind us all that people like Trump are not who we are.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/guatemalan-boy-dies-in-us-custody/index.html



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You should be ashamed of your self turning a tragic death of a child into yet another "I hate Trump" POS post.
 

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So he got sick on Monday, was obviously brought to a hospital,which most would see as a rational course of action, but Trump.....omg, but Trump.
And, of course, no illegal EVER died under His Holiness Barack I. :roll:
 

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So, it looks like the nation has reached a cross-roads. Will we be Trumpian scrooges or humanitarians who actually give a rat's ass about what happens to tiny Tim? It's time to decide between the two on this holiday which is supposed to remind us all that people like Trump are not who we are.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/guatemalan-boy-dies-in-us-custody/index.html



The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

Well, this is one of those situations where there isn't really enough information available to draw reasonble inferences. But yeah, it's a safe bet that the "Trumpian scrooges" you refer to wouldn't give a **** even if it was tied directly to some policy change Trump imposed. Each such policy change with regard to immigration has involved deliberately cruelty.

We already saw them in action when the seven year old girl died of dehydration and shock 8 hours after being taken into custody: some were content to savage her death for purposes of attacking the asylum seekers while ignoring the fact that we take responsibility for someone when we take custody of them, and yet others decided to found a lower road (using the death to attack liberals for having cared).


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When the boy was evaluated for release, hospital staff found a fever and he was held for an additional 90 minutes before being released on Monday afternoon, CBP said. The boy was given prescriptions for amoxicillin, an antibiotic, and the painkiller ibuprofen. On Monday night, the boy was nauseous and began vomiting and was sent back to the same hospital but died shortly after midnight on Tuesday, the agency said. The official cause of the child's death is still unknown and CBP's Office of Professional Responsibility will conduct a review, consistent with policy, according to the statement.

I have to wonder:

1. Was/is there any pressure on medical staff treating any of these asylum-seekers to hurry it up and save on costs;

2. What happened in the interim. I have little faith that people who would let a girl die of dehydration and shock many hours after being taken into custody bother to check up on any sick ones to make sure they're not getting worse.
 

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You should be ashamed of your self turning a tragic death of a child into yet another "I hate Trump" POS post.

You should be ashamed of yourself for using a tragic death to attack him.




And, of course, no illegal EVER died under His Holiness Barack I. :roll:

Because someone who finds a dead (Illegal Alien) child tragic expresses their sorry by posting a whattaboutism

:roll:
 

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So, it looks like the nation has reached a cross-roads. Will we be Trumpian scrooges or humanitarians who actually give a rat's ass about what happens to tiny Tim? It's time to decide between the two on this holiday which is supposed to remind us all that people like Trump are not who we are.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/guatemalan-boy-dies-in-us-custody/index.html

The choice is yours. Choose wisely.


Why blame others when there is a lot you can do yourself for illegal immigrants:

Go to the border and become a 5-year sponsor for a single illegal or a whole family.

Don't be a scrooge this Christmas ... show that you have a heart.
 

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Well, this is one of those situations where there isn't really enough information available to draw reasonble inferences. But yeah, it's a safe bet that the "Trumpian scrooges" you refer to wouldn't give a **** even if it was tied directly to some policy change Trump imposed. Each such policy change with regard to immigration has involved deliberately cruelty.

We already saw them in action when the seven year old girl died of dehydration and shock 8 hours after being taken into custody: some were content to savage her death for purposes of attacking the asylum seekers while ignoring the fact that we take responsibility for someone when we take custody of them, and yet others decided to found a lower road (using the death to attack liberals for having cared).




I have to wonder:

1. Was/is there any pressure on medical staff treating any of these asylum-seekers to hurry it up and save on costs;

2. What happened in the interim. I have little faith that people who would let a girl die of dehydration and shock many hours after being taken into custody bother to check up on any sick ones to make sure they're not getting worse.

And then there's those like you and the OP who will use this...without, as you say, enough information...to make implications and assume there should be questions about the Border Patrol.

How about you dial it back and wait for enough information?
 

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I hope we soon reach an agreement with Mexico that families awaiting asylum processing will reside in Mexico during the process. We can't take responsibility for children and fail. If we don't have the facilities, personnel or resources (which appears to be the case), a stipend and residing in Mexico is not a bad alternative.
 

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You should be ashamed of yourself for using a tragic death to attack him.






Because someone who finds a dead (Illegal Alien) child tragic expresses their sorry by posting a whattaboutism

:roll:
Intellectual honesty isn't high on your priority list, is it?
 

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So they notice he is sick but do not understand that he has some undetectable Guatamalen disease... they rush him to hospital, treat him with anti-biotics and then he suddenly starts vomitting and dies IN ONE HOUR and you think that this is somehow Trumps fault? How about we look at this impartially and understand that this is the very reason that we do not want these people in the country in the first place... imagine this ****head parent enrolling his little kid into 3rd Grade and infecting dozens of innocent children... killing them.
Well, of course in Calamity's world view Trump is on the phone to every Border Patrol office in the country telling them "let him/her die" whenever they encounter a sick illegal.
 

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The diagnosis at the hospital was a common cold and the boy was released. The boy was given prescriptions for amoxicillin (an antibiotic) and the painkiller ibuprofen, but it is unknown if these prescriptions were filled and administered. After experiencing nausea and vomiting that night, the boy was taken back to the hospital where he died an hour later. The cause of death remains unknown.

Guatemalan boy, 8, dies in immigration custody after being diagnosed with a cold
So, apparently Trump was on the phone to the ER doctors as well. :roll:
 

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I join other members and guests in expressing my deepest condolences to the parents of that boy.


Of course, no rational person would blame anyone in particular for the boy's death, unless it were proved that an incompetent doctor did not follow the correct protocol.


In other words, this death of a little boy had nothing to do directly with the immigration policies of the United States of America.
 

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Well, this is one of those situations where there isn't really enough information available to draw reasonble inferences. But yeah, it's a safe bet that the "Trumpian scrooges" you refer to wouldn't give a **** even if it was tied directly to some policy change Trump imposed. Each such policy change with regard to immigration has involved deliberately cruelty.
Bull****.

Mr Person said:
We already saw them in action when the seven year old girl died of dehydration and shock 8 hours after being taken into custody: some were content to savage her death for purposes of attacking the asylum seekers while ignoring the fact that we take responsibility for someone when we take custody of them, and yet others decided to found a lower road (using the death to attack liberals for having cared).
LOL, oh, poor baby, did someone ruin your irrational blather by pointing out the little girl got the best care available and even her father said it wasn't the Trumpian, jackbooted stormtrooper who were responsible for her death? Seems like you're more upset that libs took a little heat than that a little girl died.


Mr Person said:
I have to wonder:

1. Was/is there any pressure on medical staff treating any of these asylum-seekers to hurry it up and save on costs;

2. What happened in the interim. I have little faith that people who would let a girl die of dehydration and shock many hours after being taken into custody bother to check up on any sick ones to make sure they're not getting worse.
LOL, just keep hoping that somehow you can find a way to blame Trump for it. You guys are deranged.
 

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Well, this is one of those situations where there isn't really enough information available to draw reasonble inferences. But yeah, it's a safe bet that the "Trumpian scrooges" you refer to wouldn't give a **** even if it was tied directly to some policy change Trump imposed. Each such policy change with regard to immigration has involved deliberately cruelty.

We already saw them in action when the seven year old girl died of dehydration and shock 8 hours after being taken into custody: some were content to savage her death for purposes of attacking the asylum seekers while ignoring the fact that we take responsibility for someone when we take custody of them, and yet others decided to found a lower road (using the death to attack liberals for having cared).


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When the boy was evaluated for release, hospital staff found a fever and he was held for an additional 90 minutes before being released on Monday afternoon, CBP said. The boy was given prescriptions for amoxicillin, an antibiotic, and the painkiller ibuprofen. On Monday night, the boy was nauseous and began vomiting and was sent back to the same hospital but died shortly after midnight on Tuesday, the agency said. The official cause of the child's death is still unknown and CBP's Office of Professional Responsibility will conduct a review, consistent with policy, according to the statement.
I have to wonder:

1. Was/is there any pressure on medical staff treating any of these asylum-seekers to hurry it up and save on costs;

2. What happened in the interim. I have little faith that people who would let a girl die of dehydration and shock many hours after being taken into custody bother to check up on any sick ones to make sure they're not getting worse.

And then there's those like you and the OP who will use this...without, as you say, enough information...to make implications and assume there should be questions about the Border Patrol.

How about you dial it back and wait for enough information?


Oh, there shouldn't be "questions" for border control? Well, if you think that, you just proved that I was too kind in describing Trump supporters.

:lamo





PS: Guess what "investigation" requires.

Go on, guess.

It requires ASKING QUESTIONS. And answering them, too! There, you've learned something for the day.





You responded to a post that says we do not have enough information to even draw reasonable inferences - that would be my post, which again said we do not have enough information to even draw reasonable inferences - and you choose to attack the person who made it for not waiting for information.

Just....ugh...

:doh
 
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