63 Republicans vote against resolution expressing support for NATO

[jpn]

More than 60 Republicans [nearly a third of the Republican caucus] today voted against a resolution expressing support for NATO and calling on President Joe Biden to strengthen the organization's committement to defending democracy.​

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Republicans who voted against Tuesday's resolution included most of Trump's most loyal defenders in Congress, among them: Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado; Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina; Matt Gaetz of Florida; Paul Gosar of Arizona; Marjorie Taylor-Greene of Georgia; and Jim Jordan of Ohio.​

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The "House Republicans for Authoritarians" caucus.

Wasn't that long ago Republicans were personally kissing Putin's ass. Now they do it with their votes.

 

[Phys251]

More than 60 Republicans [nearly a third of the Republican caucus] today voted against a resolution expressing support for NATO and calling on President Joe Biden to strengthen the organization's committement to defending democracy.​

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Republicans who voted against Tuesday's resolution included most of Trump's most loyal defenders in Congress, among them: Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado; Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina; Matt Gaetz of Florida; Paul Gosar of Arizona; Marjorie Taylor-Greene of Georgia; and Jim Jordan of Ohio.​

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The "House Republicans for Authoritarians" caucus.

Wasn't that long ago Republicans were personally kissing Putin's ass. Now they do it with their votes.

Those GQP'ers hate democracy and love Putin.

 

[Tigerace117]

More than 60 Republicans [nearly a third of the Republican caucus] today voted against a resolution expressing support for NATO and calling on President Joe Biden to strengthen the organization's committement to defending democracy.​

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Republicans who voted against Tuesday's resolution included most of Trump's most loyal defenders in Congress, among them: Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado; Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina; Matt Gaetz of Florida; Paul Gosar of Arizona; Marjorie Taylor-Greene of Georgia; and Jim Jordan of Ohio.​

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The "House Republicans for Authoritarians" caucus.

Wasn't that long ago Republicans were personally kissing Putin's ass. Now they do it with their votes.

As I said on the other thread, isolationism is stupid, but declaring it “treasonous” is equally stupid. America is diving headlong back into McCarthyism.

 

[noonereal]

More than 60 Republicans [nearly a third of the Republican caucus] today voted against a resolution expressing support for NATO and calling on President Joe Biden to strengthen the organization's committement to defending democracy.​

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Republicans who voted against Tuesday's resolution included most of Trump's most loyal defenders in Congress, among them: Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado; Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina; Matt Gaetz of Florida; Paul Gosar of Arizona; Marjorie Taylor-Greene of Georgia; and Jim Jordan of Ohio.​

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The "House Republicans for Authoritarians" caucus.

Wasn't that long ago Republicans were personally kissing Putin's ass. Now they do it with their votes.

Eisenhower, Ford, Nixon, Ronnie and Bush would be horrified.
Bush Jr is horrified.

This is not the GOP, this is vulgar.

 

[RAMOSS]

Those GQP'ers hate democracy and love Putin.

What do you expect, CPAC is meeting in Hungary, and is having Orban as a key note speaker

 

[CaughtInThe]

here's the full list of the 63 asses. i've highlighted a few of the asses...

 

[RAMOSS]

here's the full list of the 63 asses. i've highlighted a few of the asses...



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Well, I consider those the 7 worse people in congress.

 

[ttwtt78640]

More than 60 Republicans [nearly a third of the Republican caucus] today voted against a resolution expressing support for NATO and calling on President Joe Biden to strengthen the organization's committement to defending democracy.​

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Republicans who voted against Tuesday's resolution included most of Trump's most loyal defenders in Congress, among them: Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado; Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina; Matt Gaetz of Florida; Paul Gosar of Arizona; Marjorie Taylor-Greene of Georgia; and Jim Jordan of Ohio.​

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The "House Republicans for Authoritarians" caucus.

Wasn't that long ago Republicans were personally kissing Putin's ass. Now they do it with their votes.

The objection was likely to the proposed expansion of NATO into new political missions. It seems very odd that the OP linked article contained absolutely no comments from those who *gasp* voted against the measure. International interference with the ‘democratic institutions’ within NATO member nations (e.g. the USA) should not become a NATO mission.

It also advocates the creation of a "Center for Democratic Resilience" within NATO's headquarters in Brussels, with the center providing member states assistance to strengthen their own democratic institutions.

Turner and Connolly Introduce Resolution in Support of Establishing a NATO Center for Democratic Resilience

turner.house.gov

WELCOME - The Case for a Centre for Democratic Resilience in NATO

nato-pa.foleon.com

 

[TomFitz]

As I said on the other thread, isolationism is stupid, but declaring it “treasonous” is equally stupid. America is diving headlong back into McCarthyism.

Yes, that is a product of the growing parochialism and reactionary politics of the far right wing.

Isolationism never really went away. The John Birchers were all about it.

But increasingly, right wing media has catered to isolationism. The strains of it run throughout what is now red state America.

You could overlay a map of KKK clavens across the US, with the current red state map, and they will largely overlap.

Lately, they’ve tried to intellectualize themselves by calling themselves “realists”.

Trump spoke right to this neo nationalism.

And the clown right wing is embracing it too.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes, that is a product of the growing parochialism and reactionary politics of the far right wing.

Isolationism never really went away. The John Birchers were all about it.

But increasingly, right wing media has catered to isolationism. The strains of it run throughout what is now red state America.

You could overlay a map of KKK clavens across the US, with the current red state map, and they will largely overlap.

Lately, they’ve tried to intellectualize themselves by calling themselves “realists”.

Trump spoke right to this neo nationalism.

And the clown right wing is embracing it too.

But at the same time, McCarthyism is equally dangerous. Isolationism has been around since the dawn of the country. You can think it’s stupid all you want— I certainly do— but the constant stream of accusations of “treason” without the slightest shred of evidence is a dangerous game to be playing.

Isolationist sentiment waxes and wanes over time. After 9/11 it declined for a while, but I think people are just tired. America can help others, but it’s become blindingly obvious we can’t solve all the world’s problems, and interjecting ourselves into them has left many exhausted.

As for the John Birch Society, I think it was Barry Goldwater who said that the actual Birch would be appalled at the kind of crap that gets spouted in his name.

 

[yankintx]

The GOP is pushing themselves to the fringe. You guys need some serious reflection.

 

[jpn]

What do you expect, CPAC is meeting in Hungary, and is having Orban as a key note speaker

Orban's election campaign is right out of the GOP playbook:

While Poland has been plastered in recent weeks with Ukrainian flags and other signs of solidarity with its eastern neighbor, streets across Hungary have been decked with placards trumpeting the need to “protect our children.” Alongside a vote on Sunday for Parliament, Hungarians are also being asked to vote on a series of inflammatory questions, like, “Do you support the promotion of sex reassignment therapy for underage children?”​

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Employing dishonest smear tactics like on Fox "News" is so transparent, and yet so effective. Amazing.

 

[highroller]

At least we know who the potential traitors are

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

More than 60 Republicans [nearly a third of the Republican caucus] today voted against a resolution expressing support for NATO and calling on President Joe Biden to strengthen the organization's committement to defending democracy.​

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Republicans who voted against Tuesday's resolution included most of Trump's most loyal defenders in Congress, among them: Reps. Lauren Boebert of Colorado; Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina; Matt Gaetz of Florida; Paul Gosar of Arizona; Marjorie Taylor-Greene of Georgia; and Jim Jordan of Ohio.​

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The "House Republicans for Authoritarians" caucus.

Wasn't that long ago Republicans were personally kissing Putin's ass. Now they do it with their votes.

Once again, it has become almost impossible to have an honest conversation about these people because in order to actually to so would immediately violate forum Rules.
That's how bad it has become, that's how dire it is, that's how crazy these people really are.
There is no real "discussion" to be had anymore, beyond "These [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] "

Because short of [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored], we're going to wind up watching them commit atrocities like we've never seen before here in America.

 

[Tigerace117]

At least we know who the potential traitors are

Again, there’s nothing inherently “treasonous” about isolationism. Yeah, it’s not a workable ideology, but America has had isolationists for as long as there’s been an America. To declare people “traitorous” for subscribing to it is not a good thing.

 

[jpn]

Isolationist sentiment waxes and wanes over time. After 9/11 it declined for a while, but I think people are just tired. America can help others, but it’s become blindingly obvious we can’t solve all the world’s problems, and interjecting ourselves into them has left many exhausted.
As for the John Birch Society, I think it was Barry Goldwater who said that the actual Birch would be appalled at the kind of crap that gets spouted in his name.

Goldwater also infamously said, "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!"

I agree that isolationism waxes and wanes. It was very powerful in the 1930s, all the way up to Pearl Harbor. Then it was pushed into the background as the US fought WWII and set about arranging a world order designed to avoid another catastrophic war. NATO was one of those arrangements.

Just like democracy itself, some people (see the list above) can be lulled into thinking that peace is something that just happens naturally and doesn't need constant vigilance and sacrifice.

 

[craig]

Yes, that is a product of the growing parochialism and reactionary politics of the far right wing.

Isolationism never really went away. The John Birchers were all about it.

But increasingly, right wing media has catered to isolationism. The strains of it run throughout what is now red state America.

You could overlay a map of KKK clavens across the US, with the current red state map, and they will largely overlap.

Lately, they’ve tried to intellectualize themselves by calling themselves “realists”.

Trump spoke right to this neo nationalism.

And the clown right wing is embracing it too.

Do you have a map of KKK clavens? Hyperbole is not helpful.

 

[Mr. Invisible]

It's perfectly okay to not want to support NATO. Personally, I think it should have disbanded long ago. We already have mutual defense pacts with many NATO member nations and it isn't as if NATO is particularly useful or doesn't approach situations that we've already come at via other avenues.

 

[jpn]

Once again, it has become almost impossible to have an honest conversation about these people because in order to actually to so would immediately violate forum Rules.
That's how bad it has become, that's how dire it is, that's how crazy these people really are.
There is no real "discussion" to be had anymore, beyond "These [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] "

Because short of [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored], we're going to wind up watching them commit atrocities like we've never seen before here in America.

I know! For example, today Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted the following regarding soon-to-be Justice Jackson:

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene @RepMTG

Murkowski, Collins, and Romney are pro-pedophile. They just voted for #KBJ.

April 5th 2022
4,596 Retweets15,954 Likes​

Tell me these people aren't seriously sick.

 

[Parrish]

Just a thought. Those Republicans object to a woman's right to choose yet back those who bomb maternity hospitals, rape and murder children, rape women in front of their spouses and children and then murder them all. So much for family values. If they don't support the principles of NATO and those our own country, they won't represent those values here and will condone it here to meet their objectives.

 

[jpn]

It's perfectly okay to not want to support NATO. Personally, I think it should have disbanded long ago. We already have mutual defense pacts with many NATO member nations and it isn't as if NATO is particularly useful or doesn't approach situations that we've already come at via other avenues.

Tell that to the Poles.
Tell it to the Latvians. They'll laugh in your face.
Tell it to the Ukrainians.

 

[jpn]

Just a thought. Those Republicans object to a woman's right to choose yet back those who bomb maternity hospitals, rape and murder children, rape women in front of their spouses and children and then murder them all. So much for family values. If they don't support the principles of NATO and those our own country, they won't represent those values here and will condone it here to meet their objectives.

Well, they clearly don't support democracy.

 

[Tigerace117]

Goldwater also infamously said, "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice!"

I agree that isolationism waxes and wanes. It was very powerful in the 1930s, all the way up to Pearl Harbor. Then it was pushed into the background as the US fought WWII and set about arranging a world order designed to avoid another catastrophic war. NATO was one of those arrangements.

Just like democracy itself, some people (see the list above) can be lulled into thinking that peace is something that just happens naturally and doesn't need constant vigilance and sacrifice.

And it cost him the presidency, because people thought he was a nut and would launch at the Soviets.

We’ve also been at war for the better part of twenty years. True, it’s been brushfire wars where the average American has had the luxury of conveniently ignoring them, but it just got hammered home that we didn’t actually win those brushfire wars, not really, and Americans don’t handle losing well.

 

[jpn]

We’ve also been at war for the better part of twenty years. True, it’s been brushfire wars where the average American has had the luxury of conveniently ignoring them, but it just got hammered home that we didn’t actually win those brushfire wars, not really, and Americans don’t handle losing well.

No one does. It's devastating. That's why we can't use nukes or openly confront Russia militarily one-on-one. Neither side would back down, which would inexerably lead to mutual nuclear annihilation.

I write that as someone who lives within 20 miles of more nuclear warheads than any nation but China or Russia.