400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly people

[trfjr]

Joe DiGenova, a former U.S. attorney who now represents Mark Thompson, one of the so-called "Benghazi whistleblowers" who testified before Congress last spring, says he's been told that some "very ugly people" had stolen the missiles, and that the Benghazi annex played a key role in the theft.

"I do not know whether [the missiles] were at the annex, but it is clear the annex was somehow involved in the process of the distribution of those missiles," said DiGenova in an interview Monday with WMAL's Mornings On The Mall.

How did DiGenova get this information? He told WMAL that ever since he and his wife and law partner, Victoria Toensing, began representing the Benghazi whistleblowers last spring, they have been contacted by several people eager to share information about what really happened the night of September 11, 2012, when four Americans were killed in the Consulate attack, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens.

"This information comes from a former intelligence official who stayed in constant contact with people in the special ops and intelligence community," said DiGenova, "and it is pretty clear that the biggest concern right now is that 400 missiles, which have been diverted in Libya and have gotten into the hands of some very ugly people. And they are worried, specifically according to these sources, about an attempt to shoot down an airliner," he added.

you need to listen to this vid






I reported this about a month ago about surface to air missiles from Libya getting into the hands of terrorist, Missiles that can be used to take down a Airliner

The pieces are beginning to fall into place about Benghazi.
No wonder why no air support was sent.
No wonder why Obama blamed the attack on a video. Trying disparately to hide the truth
No wonder why there has not been any arrest so the suspects can reveal the truth about the missiles
No wonder why the CIA made the Benghazi attack survivals sign a nondisclosure agreement, has been hidden from any investigation, and threatened if they talk

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Shh, you're not supposed to post items like this, they show Obama and his cronies for what they truly are. Sure they'll bring up Oliver North, President Reagan and others in the Iran-Contra but that was peanuts compared to this. BTW, did you hear about the break in at DiGenova's offices where only whistleblower information on the IRS and Benghazi scandal was taken. Hey, the Obama administration had NOTHING, Nothing to do with that black bag job.. Nudge, nudge, nod, nod. smirk.

 

[rocket88]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Sure they'll bring up Oliver North, President Reagan and others in the Iran-Contra but that was peanuts compared to this.

Selling arms to the Iranians is peanuts? :shock:

Where do you think they got half of the knowledge they needed to build a nuclear misslie?

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Selling arms to the Iranians is peanuts? :shock:

Where do you think they got half of the knowledge they needed to build a nuclear misslie?

How do you equate the sale of 1,000 TOW missiles to knowledge to build nuclear missiles? We all know that the knowledge came from Pakistan, Communist China and North Korea. Nice try, but like most of the dreck coming from the Progressive Left it's a blatant lie.

BTW we all know that Bubba Clinton traded missile technology for dollars during the China-Gate scandal.

 

[specklebang]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

In just 5 posts, we've gone from 400 missiles to 1000 missiles. I predict we'll be in the hundreds of thousand before the day is done.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

In just 5 posts, we've gone from 400 missiles to 1000 missiles. I predict we'll be in the hundreds of thousand before the day is done.

Well there you go, some people don't know what they're talking about. I normally check the information before I post.

The following arms were supplied to Iran:[29][30]
August 20, 1985 – 96 TOW anti-tank missiles
September 14, 1985 – 408 more TOWs
November 24, 1985 – 18 Hawk anti-aircraft missiles
February 17, 1986 – 500 TOWs
February 27, 1986 – 500 TOWs
May 24, 1986 – 508 TOWs, 240 Hawk spare parts
August 4, 1986 – More Hawk spares
October 28, 1986 – 500 TOWs

First arms sale[edit source]

On August 20, 1985, Israel sent 96 American-made BGM-71 TOW antitank missiles to Iran through an arms dealer named Manucher Ghorbanifar. Hours after receiving the weapons, the Islamic fundamentalist group Islamic Jihad released one hostage they had been holding in Lebanon, the Reverend Benjamin Weir.[19]

[Excerpt]

Read more:
Iran

 

[Thrilla]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

In just 5 posts, we've gone from 400 missiles to 1000 missiles. I predict we'll be in the hundreds of thousand before the day is done.

the different numbers are because he's talking about different missiles in different eras.

400 SAMs ( not sure what kind yet) are in question today... the 1000 TOWs ( anti-tank missiles) were back under Reagan


it's incredibly doubtful that Iran gained any nuclear knowledge from any arms deals back then.... all of the arms sales then were of the conventional sort

interesting Notes... we were selling TOWs to Iran as early as 1971 and stopped in '79 ( after their revolution)
while it's untrue they gleaned any nuclear knowledge from the missiles, they were able to reverse engineer the TOWs (BGM-71B) and manufacture their own variant.. the Toophan 1)
TOW stand for Tube-launched Optically tracked, Wire guided.

we did share nuclear knowledge with Iran.. from the 50's until the Ayatollah cancelled after the revolution.. Russia has been their primarily nuclear supporter since then.

 

[rocket88]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

How do you equate the sale of 1,000 TOW missiles to knowledge to build nuclear missiles? We all know that the knowledge came from Pakistan, Communist China and North Korea. Nice try, but like most of the dreck coming from the Progressive Left it's a blatant lie.

Please, if they got missile technology from North Korea, it wouldn't work. Missiles = missiles, get it? All they need now is the nuclear capability.

Despite your desperate attempt to say this is "dreck coming from the Progressive Left," Reagan sold weapons to an avowed enemy of the United States. How that's the Left's fault, I have no idea.

 

[Thrilla]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Please, if they got missile technology from North Korea, it wouldn't work. Missiles = missiles, get it? All they need now is the nuclear capability.

Despite your desperate attempt to say this is "dreck coming from the Progressive Left," Reagan sold weapons to an avowed enemy of the United States. How that's the Left's fault, I have no idea.

there is a vast difference between anti-armor missiles and anti-aircraft missiles... both are also very different than ICBMs or other nuclear delivery missiles.

missiles are something i know quite a bit about... especially SAMs.... i'm all geeky over SAMs

 

[specklebang]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

the different numbers are because he's talking about different missiles in different eras.

400 SAMs ( not sure what kind yet) are in question today... the 1000 TOWs ( anti-tank missiles) were back under Reagan


it's incredibly doubtful that Iran gained any nuclear knowledge from any arms deals back then.... all of the arms sales then were of the conventional sort

interesting Notes... we were selling TOWs to Iran as early as 1971 and stopped in '79 ( after their revolution)
while it's untrue they gleaned any nuclear knowledge from the missiles, they were able to reverse engineer the TOWs (BGM-71B) and manufacture their own variant.. the Toophan 1)
TOW stand for Tube-launched Optically tracked, Wire guided.

we did share nuclear knowledge with Iran.. from the 50's until the Ayatollah cancelled after the revolution.. Russia has been their primarily nuclear supporter since then.

Well there you go, some people don't know what they're talking about. I normally check the information before I post.

The following arms were supplied to Iran:[29][30]
August 20, 1985 – 96 TOW anti-tank missiles
September 14, 1985 – 408 more TOWs
November 24, 1985 – 18 Hawk anti-aircraft missiles
February 17, 1986 – 500 TOWs
February 27, 1986 – 500 TOWs
May 24, 1986 – 508 TOWs, 240 Hawk spare parts
August 4, 1986 – More Hawk spares
October 28, 1986 – 500 TOWs

First arms sale[edit source]

On August 20, 1985, Israel sent 96 American-made BGM-71 TOW antitank missiles to Iran through an arms dealer named Manucher Ghorbanifar. Hours after receiving the weapons, the Islamic fundamentalist group Islamic Jihad released one hostage they had been holding in Lebanon, the Reverend Benjamin Weir.[19]

[Excerpt]

Read more:
Iran

Ah, thanks. Doesn't take much to confuse me. I was in Libya, not Iran.

Ok, so I'm confused. Is the story now that there were 400 missiles at the Consulate and they were stolen? I better figure out what we're all talking about so I don't embarrass myself any further.:3oops:

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Please, if they got missile technology from North Korea, it wouldn't work. Missiles = missiles, get it? All they need now is the nuclear capability.

Despite your desperate attempt to say this is "dreck coming from the Progressive Left," Reagan sold weapons to an avowed enemy of the United States. How that's the Left's fault, I have no idea.

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Missile Collaboration: Iran Has the Technology, N. Korea Has the ...

cnsnews.com/.../missile-collaboration-iran-has-technology-n-korea...

‘Iran, North Korea already have ICBM technology ... Another recent warning about the threat posed by both rogue states came from a top Russian missile technology ...
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North Korea’s Lesson - Nukes for Sale - NYTimes.com

www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/opinion/north-koreas-lesson-nukes-for...

Feb 12, 2013 · Technology; Science; Health; Sports; ... North Korea is known as “Missiles ‘R’ Us,” having sold and delivered missiles to Iran, ...


Hmm...., Even the New York Slimes contradicts you. I never denied that Reagan was involved in the sale of TOW or Hawke missiles. Your claim was that he also gave Iran nuclear missile technology. That was a Blatant lie. Case closed.

 

[Thrilla]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

I'm an old HAWker (5923) ( it's HAWK, not HAWKE)..MIM-23 Homing All the Way Killer


kinda funny thing about selling them to Iran back then... we didn't sell them the illuminator radar that's required to fire them (AN/MPQ-46 HPI , AN/MPQ-57)
they were sold a obsolete variant of a missile they couldn't fire.. for big bucks


they finally got one to fire off though.... last year
2012 was their first successful live fire.... the US scrapped the system back in the early 90's

 

[rocket88]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

​

Missile Collaboration: Iran Has the Technology, N. Korea Has the ...

cnsnews.com/.../missile-collaboration-iran-has-technology-n-korea...

‘Iran, North Korea already have ICBM technology ... Another recent warning about the threat posed by both rogue states came from a top Russian missile technology ...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



North Korea’s Lesson - Nukes for Sale - NYTimes.com

www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/opinion/north-koreas-lesson-nukes-for...

Feb 12, 2013 · Technology; Science; Health; Sports; ... North Korea is known as “Missiles ‘R’ Us,” having sold and delivered missiles to Iran, ...


Hmm...., Even the New York Slimes contradicts you. I never denied that Reagan was involved in the sale of TOW or Hawke missiles. Your claim was that he also gave Iran nuclear missile technology. That was a Blatant lie. Case closed.

I said he gave them missile technology. Missiles that they didn't have before. I didn't say they were nuclear.

Still waiting for why we should celebrate selling weapons systems to our enemy and one that wants to wipe one of our allies off the map. Or how that's "no big deal" compared to Benghazi.

 

[rocket88]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

there is a vast difference between anti-armor missiles and anti-aircraft missiles... both are also very different than ICBMs or other nuclear delivery missiles.

missiles are something i know quite a bit about... especially SAMs.... i'm all geeky over SAMs

It's a difference, but did Iran have missiles before that? And if they did, isn't it a pretty good chance that they got them from the USA?

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

I said he gave them missile technology. Missiles that they didn't have before. I didn't say they were nuclear.

Still waiting for why we should celebrate selling weapons systems to our enemy and one that wants to wipe one of our allies off the map. Or how that's "no big deal" compared to Benghazi.

Are you now claiming you didn't write the following: "Where do you think they got half of the knowledge they needed to build a nuclear misslie?"
Hmm...????

As it is the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans were supplying them with the equivalent of "Tow missiles (anti=tank)" and "Hawke missiles (Anti-Aircraft SAM's)", while China supply the "Silk Worm missile system (anti-ship)"


Iran North Korea Alliance - Korean Confidential: Mysteries ...

www.koreanconfidential.com/irannorthkorea.html

The Scud and other missile technology ... North Korea supplied Iran with Scud B ... there reportedly were North Korean missile experts in Iran working ...

Certainly A.Q. Kahn has been closely involved in building Iran's nuclear capability.


A.Q. Khan gave Iran designs for bomb - Military Space News ...

www.spacewar.com/reports/AQ_Khan_gave_Iran_designs_for_bomb.html
Washington, (UPI) Nov. 24 , 2004 - A CIA report, released this week, blames Pakistani scientist A.Q. Khan for supplying nuclear bomb designs to Iran and is bound to ...

 

[rocket88]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Are you now claiming you didn't write the following: "Where do you think they got half of the knowledge they needed to build a nuclear misslie?"
Hmm...????

Nope. Take the nuclear part off and they learned a bunch about missiles from us.

Still waiting to hear how selling weapons to an enemy that wants to wipe our ally off the map is nothing compared to Benghazi.

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Nope. Take the nuclear part off and they learned a bunch about missiles from us.

Still waiting to hear how selling weapons to an enemy that wants to wipe our ally off the map is nothing compared to Benghazi.

Are you now claiming that you didn't write that statement, or are you revising it as all Progressives do to in trying to make yourself right? If any party is responsible for the transference of Missile technology, it's the Progressive Democratic Party? The identity of the traitors are William Jefferson Clinton and Al Gore in their conspiracies with the Chinese as in China-Gate. I suggest you Google China-Gate and transference of missile technology.

 

[rocket88]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Are you now claiming that you didn't write that statement, or are you revising it as all Progressives do to in trying to make yourself right? If any party is responsible for the transference of Missile technology, it's the Progressive Democratic Party? The identity of the traitors are William Jefferson Clinton and Al Gore in their conspiracies with the Chinese as in China-Gate. I suggest you Google China-Gate and transference of missile technology.

I'm claiming you didn't read it properly which isn't a huge surprise because it didn't tell you what you want to hear.

If anyone's running from their statement, it's you. You said:

Iran-Contra but that was peanuts compared to this.

So again, how is selling weapons to an avowed enemy that wants to wipe an ally of ours off the map "peanuts" compared to Benghazi?

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

I'm claiming you didn't read it properly which isn't a huge surprise because it didn't tell you what you want to hear.

If anyone's running from their statement, it's you. You said:

So again, how is selling weapons to an avowed enemy that wants to wipe an ally of ours off the map "peanuts" compared to Benghazi?

Is it any different than selling man pad SAM's to al Qaeda led terrorists or their affiliates? I didn't mention the illegal transference of nuclear missile technology by Reagan, you did. Changing the subject to Iran Contra and leaving out China-Gate is typical of you. One was for the exchange of hostages, the other was all about money to Clinton and Gore.

 

[trfjr]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

I'm claiming you didn't read it properly which isn't a huge surprise because it didn't tell you what you want to hear.

If anyone's running from their statement, it's you. You said:



So again, how is selling weapons to an avowed enemy that wants to wipe an ally of ours off the map "peanuts" compared to Benghazi?

And why the hell are we bringing up Iran/Contra that happened 30 years ago. That was then this is now. If Reagan was guilty of a wrong doing it is to late to do anything about it the man is dead. do you want to raise him from the dead put him back in office and impeach him? talking about literally beating a dead horse. Should we let all bank robbers get away with the crime because one got away with it in the past?

 

[Wehrwolfen]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

Attorney for Benghazi whistleblower says 400 missiles stolen from US​

By Rick Moran
August 13, 2013


Joe DiGenova, an attorney for one of the Benghazi whistleblowers, said in a radio interview that one of the reasons people have been so tight lipped about what happened to our diplomats is that 400 US missiles diverted to Libiya were stolen and ended up in the hands of some "very ugly people."

Breitbart:

DiGenova represents Benghazi whistleblower Mark Thompson. He told WMAL that he "does not know whether [the missiles] were at the annex, but it is clear the annex was somehow involved in the distribution of those missiles."

He claimed his information "comes from a former intelligence official who stayed in constant contact with people in the special ops and intelligence community." He said the biggest concern right now is finding those missiles before they can be put to use. "They are worried, specifically according to these sources, about an attempt to shoot down an airliner," he claimed.

On August 4, Breitbart News covered a report in The Telegraph that said 35 CIA operatives were working in Benghazi when the attack against the consulate took place. The Telegraph claimed these operatives were allegedly in an "annex near the consulate [working] on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armories to Syrian Rebels."

Months earlier, following then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta's February 7 testimony on Capitol Hill about the Benghazi attacks, Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) suggested that one of the causes behind the terrorist attack "may have been that there was a gun running operation going on in Benghazi, leaving Libya and going to Turkey and [distributing] arms to the [Syrian] rebels."​

Read more:
Blog: Attorney for Benghazi whistleblower says 400 missiles stolen from US

 

[specklebang]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

And why the hell are we bringing up Iran/Contra that happened 30 years ago. That was then this is now. If Reagan was guilty of a wrong doing it is to late to do anything about it the man is dead. do you want to raise him from the dead put him back in office and impeach him? talking about literally beating a dead horse. Should we let all bank robbers get away with the crime because one got away with it in the past?

I agree. Two wrongs don't make a right.

So:
Ok, so I'm confused. Is the story now that there were 400 missiles at the Consulate and they were stolen? Why would there be any missiles at a consulate? Let alone 400 of them.?

 

[trfjr]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

I agree. Two wrongs don't make a right.

So:
Ok, so I'm confused. Is the story now that there were 400 missiles at the Consulate and they were stolen? Why would there be any missiles at a consulate? Let alone 400 of them.?

they was brought over to give to the Libyain rebels to take down gaddafi's air craft. why was they still there after they war is not known atleast not by the public but my speculation is they was being funneled to Syria

 

[specklebang]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

they was brought over to give to the Libyain rebels to take down gaddafi's air craft. why was they still there after they war is not known atleast not by the public but my speculation is they was being funneled to Syria

How sure are we that these missiles were still there to be stolen? Or there in the first place? I don't know how big or heavy or susceptible to explosion they are but 400 is a ****load of them and I'm curious if this is true or fantasy.

 

[WCH]

Re: 400 Surface-To-Air Missiles "diverted to Libya, in the hands of some very ugly pe

the different numbers are because he's talking about different missiles in different eras.

400 SAMs ( not sure what kind yet) are in question today... the 1000 TOWs ( anti-tank missiles) were back under Reagan


it's incredibly doubtful that Iran gained any nuclear knowledge from any arms deals back then.... all of the arms sales then were of the conventional sort

interesting Notes... we were selling TOWs to Iran as early as 1971 and stopped in '79 ( after their revolution)
while it's untrue they gleaned any nuclear knowledge from the missiles, they were able to reverse engineer the TOWs (BGM-71B) and manufacture their own variant.. the Toophan 1)
TOW stand for Tube-launched Optically tracked, Wire guided.

we did share nuclear knowledge with Iran.. from the 50's until the Ayatollah cancelled after the revolution.. Russia has been their primarily nuclear supporter since then.

Could be these guys informed Iran how to make nukes? [or the Pakis or the Russians]

North Koreans among 40 dead at Iran nuke plant