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4.2% GDP: the Trump Economy Is Booming

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/08/29/us-set-decade-high-gdp-growth/


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/august-consumer-confidence.html
 
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"4.2% GDP: the Trump Economy Is Booming"

So will your heart if you pump enough sugar into your system....that is until it isn't any longer.
 

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But, but wait just a minute.... That is racist!! :doh


Stock are booming, people have good paying jobs, consumer confidence is high, unemployment rate is low.
Manufacturing jobs are coming back. Democrats are praying for a recession before the November elections.
It's the economy.
 
Just pointing out that Trump is doing a great job, contrary to most "discussions" that say otherwise.

Excellent! ... this coming after Obama told us that the weak **** he created is the new normal.

MAGA!
 
Thanks, Obama!
 
The Federal Deficit?

Maybe NPR, which constantly praised Obama, should get its facts straight.


So, you're saying Obama took the deficit down and Trump is taking it back up again. At least, that's what your graph shows.
 



Unfortunately, the average American isn’t sharing any of an increase in GDP because salaries remain flat.

That $1.5T “stimulus” was mostly to companies and the stock market via companies using their tax cuts for stock buy-backs. They “invested” in themselves, not plant or worker investment. Practically none.

Confidence levels are a measure of how a person feels, an emotion, not necessarily based on a sensible, realistic assessment. The wage gap, with Trump’s tax plan, has widened considerably while most Americans get next to nothing from the plan and fall flat in real wages.
 

I just heard on the news how employers are having to raise salaries to keep the people they have and to get new people. No worries though. The left will bring in a bunch of illegal slave labor to drive wages back down when they take over.
 
"4.2% GDP: the Trump Economy Is Booming"

So will your heart if you pump enough sugar into your system....that is until it isn't any longer.
No sugar involved. Carbs for energy and protein for muscle building, and not a "shovel ready job" in sight.
 
Thanks, Obama!
What flavor of Kool Aid did he serve you? His last year in office was economically miserable, 1% growth and a declining stock market; until Nov 9th at least. Once Trump one smart investors and business people didn't even wait for him to be inaugurated to begin building the economy.
 
Fingers crossed this is reflected in the midterms!
 
Unfortunately, the average American isn’t sharing any of an increase in GDP because salaries remain flat.
Not actually true millions have received raises, bonuses and benefits upgrades. Several million went from zero wages to getting paid. And some came from not even LOOKING for work to getting jobs. AND this all happened in only the first six months of the boom.

bluesmoke said:
That $1.5T “stimulus” was mostly to companies and the stock market via companies using their tax cuts for stock buy-backs. They “invested” in themselves, not plant or worker investment. Practically none.
Also not true, companies have boosted capital expenditures and released expansions plans. Those take longer than a few months to show benefits.

Still just as untrue as it was at the beginning of the post.
 
I just heard on the news how employers are having to raise salaries to keep the people they have and to get new people. No worries though. The left will bring in a bunch of illegal slave labor to drive wages back down when they take over.



"I just heard on the news how employers are having to raise salaries to keep the people they have and to get new people."

Can you give a citation of anything significant? Estimates for wage increase is an average of 3% for 2018, with higher % increases for the professional and management ranks. However, as of July 2018, yearly inflation is 2.9%. I’m sure you can do the math and figure what the estimated real average wage increase will be for 2018.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/the-scoop-on-salary-increases-1919079

2018 CPI and Inflation Rate for the United States | Inflation Calculator

"The left will bring in a bunch of illegal slave labor to drive wages back down when they take over."

You have no evidence to support what you say that this is what happens when "the left" is in charge.

Without significant evidence to support your claims, they are dismissed as unfounded. You can't back-up what you say.
 
Before 1 September 1939, Hitler had a booming economy as well. Wounder how many conservatives would have enjoyed living in Nazi Germany before the start of World War II in Europe.
 



“Not actually true millions have received raises, bonuses and benefits upgrades. Several million went from zero wages to getting paid. And some came from not even LOOKING for work to getting jobs. AND this all happened in only the first six months of the boom.”

Yes, it is true. I’m saying the average American, not the select instances you mention yet do not give any evidence of. Wages are expected to go up an average of 3% in 2018 while inflation is tracking at 2.9%. Professional and management positions will get higher than the average 3% increase in pay. Nothing you mention is going in a positive direction any better than under Obama.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/the-scoop-on-salary-increases-1919079

2018 CPI and Inflation Rate for the United States | Inflation Calculator

As for the positive impact of the tax cut plan on the average American that Trump promised:

https://www.newstimes.com/business/...ses-to-forgotten-man-undercut-by-13188124.php

“Also not true, companies have boosted capital expenditures and released expansions plans. Those take longer than a few months to show benefits.”

The great majority of the tax cuts have gone to stock buy-backs. Re:

“Companies in the Standard & Poor's 500 Index of large U.S. stocks are on pace to spend $2.5 trillion this year on shareholder dividends, stock buybacks or acquisitions”

https://www.thestreet.com/investing/tax-cut-fueled-stock-buybacks-stymie-trump-economy-14613720

In addition to the tax cuts, there’s also the repatriation of cash held off-shore that is being used for stock buy-backs. Re:

“Despite certain policymakers' hopes that this would fuel a capital expenditure boom, and in turn make America great again, it seems the majority of this money has ended up in the hands of shareholders”

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2018/06/25/1529934938000/Buybacks--repatriation-edition/

The buy-backs have a lot to do with the increasing S&P 500 returns.

Remember, Trump’s big promise on the tax cuts was “jobs, jobs, jobs.” Sen. Marco Rubio doesn’t think so:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...io-investing-tax-cuts-jobs-workers/567996002/

“Still just as untrue as it was at the beginning of the post.”

It is obvious that those having confidence in the economy is in the context of an emotion. It is certainly not one of being sensible and realistic regarding one’s own place in the economy as the facts say otherwise:

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/realer.nr0.htm

https://www.cbpp.org/research/pover...ics-on-historical-trends-in-income-inequality

http://www.mcall.com/opinion/letters/mc-israel-tax-bill-20171214-story.html
 
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