4/10/25 -- Combined polls.

The pooled 538 polls continue to show an increase in the President Donald Trump disapproval number and
a corresponding decrease in the approval number. Today, as the DJIA resumes its descent (approaching 3%
this afternoon,) the percent values stand at:

Today
Approve: 45.7
Disapprove: 50.7

3/7-9/2025
Approve: 48.1
Disapprove: 47.3

Spread change 3/7/25 - 4/10/25: -5.8%

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . informed.

I think the slide will continue and I don't think he gives a damn.....but GOP Congress critters will.

Callen said:

I think the slide will continue and I don't think he gives a damn.....but GOP Congress critters will.

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The national Legislature has, over the years, ceded more and more authority to the Administration. In doing so they've avoided the heat which accompanies unpopular legislation.

Now, we have a Legislature that is essentially impotent in acting as a check and balance for the President of the United States. We see the result. An authoritarian president who can, on a whim, send the stock market up or down by several percentage points. This may be an almost irresistible opportunity to enrich President Trump's friends.

Lord Acton in 1857 said succinctly "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . informed.

Torus34 said:

The pooled 538 polls continue to show an increase in the President Donald Trump disapproval number and
a corresponding decrease in the approval number. Today, as the DJIA resumes its descent (approaching 3%
this afternoon,) the percent values stand at:

Today
Approve: 45.7
Disapprove: 50.7

3/7-9/2025
Approve: 48.1
Disapprove: 47.3

Spread change 3/7/25 - 4/10/25: -5.8%

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . informed.

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I just find it shocking that ~45% of people still approve. That's amazing.

ataraxia said:

I just find it shocking that ~45% of people still approve. That's amazing.

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For some people taking a position is combined with a sense of ego. Discarding that position becomes difficult,
even when it is no longer logically tenable.

I suggest an old book, The True Believer, by Mr. Eric Hoffer, for an introduction to understanding this type of personality.
We can see, incidentally, the mischief which obtains when this type of personality assumes a position of political power.

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . informed.

Torus34 said:

For some people taking a position is combined with a sense of ego. Discarding that position becomes difficult, even when it is no longer logically tenable.

I suggest an old book, The True Believer, by Mr. Eric Hoffer, for an introduction to understanding this type of personality. We can see, incidentally, the mischief which obtains when this type of personality assumes a position of political power.

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . informed.

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Oh my gosh. That's like one of my favorite books ever! It predicted Trumpism perfectly half a century before it became a thing.

"We have seen that the acrid secretion of the frustrated mind, though composed chiefly of fear and ill will, acts yet as a marvelous slime to cement the embittered and disaffected into one compact whole. Suspicion too is an ingredient of this acrid slime (such as claims of Obama's secret birth certificate, cat eating Haitians, the "deep state", pedophilia rings operating out of pizza joints, anti-vaxxers, QAnon conspiracy theories, suspicion about the unanimous consensus of all the world's scientific organizations about climate change, or all the doctors' recommendations on the pandemic, claims of stolen presidential elections, etc, etc...), and it too can act as a unifying agent.

The awareness of their individual blemishes and shortcomings inclines the frustrated to detect ill will and meanness in their fellow men. Self-contempt, however vague, sharpens our eyes for the imperfections of others. We usually strive to reveal in others the blemishes we hide in ourselves. Thus when the frustrated congregate in a mass movement, the air is heavy-laden with suspicion. There is prying and spying, tense watching and a tense awareness of being watched. The surprising thing is that this pathological mistrust within the ranks leads not to dissension but to strict conformity. Knowing themselves continually watched, the faithful strive to escape suspicion by adhereing zealously to prescribed behavior and opinion (such as people being afraid to reveal to their family or neighbors that they have even had the audacity to vote for someone other than a MAGA politician)..."
-Eric Hoffer, The True Believer

Torus34 said:

The pooled 538 polls

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Hold it right there...

Tell me, what do you get when you take an average of bogus polls? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.)

Answer: A bogus average.

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Remember, Trump was deeply unpopular during his first term. The approval gap was up to 20% by August 2017. His numbers didn't really improve much until... fall 2023.

Meaning whatever you hope to get out of Trump losing popularity, well... I'm not sure you will get it.

Visbek said:

Remember, Trump was deeply unpopular during his first term. The approval gap was up to 20% by August 2017. His numbers didn't really improve much until... fall 2023.

Meaning whatever you hope to get out of Trump losing popularity, well... I'm not sure you will get it.

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Hi, Visbek.

What we have now in the 538 pooled data is a trend. It is the best guide I know of to the next few days, barring some upsetting event or information. To extend any projection too far into the future is to risk serious error.

Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . informed.

Torus34 said:

Hi, Visbek.

What we have now in the 538 pooled data is a trend.

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We saw the same trend, if not stronger, in 2017.

It didn't change his behavior then, it won't change it now.

Numbers have been steadily dropping. Still the only thing he’s above water on is immigration although that seems to have dropped as well.

Mycroft said:

Hold it right there...

Tell me, what do you get when you take an average of bogus polls? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question.)

Answer: A bogus average.

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You're right. Most polls in many, many categories have him doing much worse.

The AntiDonald said:

You're right. Most polls in many, many categories have him doing much worse.

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Yes RCP has him higher than the other aggregators