300,000 African migrants headed for Europe...

[TheDemSocialist]

And who's committing them.

Big bad scury foreigners.

They also said that refugees wouldn't pose terror threats. 2 terrorists who helped kill people, snuck into France as refugees.

1.)Never said that they wouldnt pose a terror threat
2.)Said that comparing the European refugee resettlement process to the US is illegitimate because the European refugee resettlement process is much different and much much more lax than the US refugee resettlement process.

 

[truthatallcost]

Big bad scury foreigners.



1.)Never said that they wouldnt pose a terror threat
2.)Said that comparing the European refugee resettlement process to the US is illegitimate because the European refugee resettlement process is much different and much much more lax than the US refugee resettlement process.

Foreign nationals make up 52% of the rape suspects in Paris, yet only 20% of the overall population.

Care to explain that?

 

[coldjoint]

Foreign nationals make up 52% of the rape suspects in Paris, yet only 20% of the overall population.

Care to explain that?

Can I try? That means they rape a lot of women.

 

[truthatallcost]

Can I try? That means they rape a lot of women.

Haha, you're being too logical here CJ,you're supposed to blame racism.

 

[coldjoint]

Haha, you're being too logical here CJ,you're supposed to blame racism.

Racism when it is not a race, xenophobia when the fear is real. And Islamophobia, which is really the fear of saying anything bad about Islam. Got ya!

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Foreign nationals make up 52% of the rape suspects in Paris, yet only 20% of the overall population.

Care to explain that?

Yeaa.... I saw you in the other thread, and I also saw how PeteEU destroyed this sill argument.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066071296
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066073249
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-6.html#post1066073824

But I get it. Gotta have the big great fear of the "great other".

 

[truthatallcost]

Yeaa.... I saw you in the other thread, and I also saw how PeteEU destroyed this sill argument.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066071296
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066073249
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-6.html#post1066073824

But I get it. Gotta have the big great fear of the "great other".

Pete linked you the debate, haha.

Yeah, Pete still hasn't answered me back on my last comment to him. He seems to think that comparing Paris to Houston Texas is his ace in the hole, and somehow explains why Paris' rape problems are not significant.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

Pete linked you the debate, haha.

Nope. He didnt. Saw the debate yesterday.

Yeah, Pete still hasn't answered me back on my last comment to him. He seems to think that comparing Paris to Houston Texas is his ace in the hole, and somehow explains why Paris' rape problems are not significant.

He essentially destroyed your argument.

1.)Its not over 50%. "Here it says almost half.. not 52%, but almost half.. VICE has a credibility problem. Where do they get the 52%.. I know, but it is up to you to find it, and realize how big a buffon VICE is." http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066071296

2.)You then said PeteEU was making up statistics about the # of rapes occured. Which in fact he wasnt. "That is the official statistic.. well just under 600 Reported' 'rapes' 'in' 'France' 'j ump' '18'%'' 'in' 'five' 'year s' '-' 'France' '24 “Paris follows just behind, with 600 rapes reported in 2014,” the report continued. So yes, there was 600 rapes in Paris in 2014." http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066073249

3.)And in regards to your last post you are essentially reitterating what PeteEU is saying. You are drawing conclusions about the Paris number of rapes occured because you think it must be higher because rape is underreported and you are drawing the conclusion that its done by big bad scury foreigners without any actual data. "And thank you for proving my point. You dispute the Paris number because it must be higher.. as that is what you are lead to believe by the right wing propaganda machine... and yet the actual reality is that there are far more people raped in a place like Houston than there are in Paris" http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066073249

 

[truthatallcost]

Nope. He didnt. Saw the debate yesterday.


He essentially destroyed your argument.

1.)Its not over 50%. "Here it says almost half.. not 52%, but almost half.. VICE has a credibility problem. Where do they get the 52%.. I know, but it is up to you to find it, and realize how big a buffon VICE is." http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066071296

2.)You then said PeteEU was making up statistics about the # of rapes occured. Which in fact he wasnt. "That is the official statistic.. well just under 600 Reported' 'rapes' 'in' 'France' 'j ump' '18'%'' 'in' 'five' 'year s' '-' 'France' '24 “Paris follows just behind, with 600 rapes reported in 2014,” the report continued. So yes, there was 600 rapes in Paris in 2014." http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066073249

3.)And in regards to your last post you are essentially reitterating what PeteEU is saying. You are drawing conclusions about the Paris number of rapes occured because you think it must be higher because rape is underreported and you are drawing the conclusion that its done by big bad scury foreigners without any actual data. "And thank you for proving my point. You dispute the Paris number because it must be higher.. as that is what you are lead to believe by the right wing propaganda machine... and yet the actual reality is that there are far more people raped in a place like Houston than there are in Paris" http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066073249

And you'll refuse to answer this question, much like Pete did:

20% of Paris' population (foreign nationals) commits "almost half" of the rape in Paris. 20% isn't almost half of the population. Its 1/5.

1/5 of Paris is responsible for almost 1/2 of the rapes.

Address?

 

[TheDemSocialist]

And you'll refuse to answer this question, much like Pete did:

20% of Paris' population (foreign nationals) commits "almost half" of the rape in Paris. 20% isn't almost half of the population. Its 1/5.

1/5 of Paris is responsible for almost 1/2 of the rapes.

Address?

As PeteEU showed, you immediately tried to tie this to religion by stating rapes in Paris was committed by foreigners and overlaying that with a demographics number that shows that most "foreigners" come from Muslim countries. You are trying to draw the conclusion that this has something to do with explicit foreigners and tying it in with religion. However this is a logical fallacy, as PeteEU showed, he showed that in cities like Houston and Philly and even Anchorage the rate of rape is much higher. What the conclusion there? Trying to link religion, nationality and rape is foolish and illogical. To sum up my thoughts quoting PeteEU, "This whole focus on nationality and religion, takes away the focus on how many rapes there are. Just look at this thread... many are bitching about "ohh the dirty Muslims are raping", and yet fully ignoring the huge amounts of rapes other places in our industrialized world." http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066073249

 

[truthatallcost]

As PeteEU showed, you immediately tried to tie this to religion by stating rapes in Paris was committed by foreigners and overlaying that with a demographics number that shows that most "foreigners" come from Muslim countries. You are trying to draw the conclusion that this has something to do with explicit foreigners and tying it in with religion. However this is a logical fallacy, as PeteEU showed, he showed that in cities like Houston and Philly and even Anchorage the rate of rape is much higher. What the conclusion there? Trying to link religion, nationality and rape is foolish and illogical. To sum up my thoughts quoting PeteEU, "This whole focus on nationality and religion, takes away the focus on how many rapes there are. Just look at this thread... many are bitching about "ohh the dirty Muslims are raping", and yet fully ignoring the huge amounts of rapes other places in our industrialized world." http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/258190-lagerfeld-paris-nightmare-now-5.html#post1066073249

That's not my intention at all. My interest lies in preserving the well being of free societies, because without them, we regress to archaic standards of living, such as can been seen in several Mideast nations.

I'm aware of 4 European countries who have tried to under report and downplay rape against women, those being Sweden, England, Germany, and Denmark.

See why some of us are skeptical about what's going on here? Germany received 1m refugees in one year, and immediately sexual assaults rise, and police officers are caught lying about the number of assaults, probably at the behest of government leaders.
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Anchorage, Philly and Houston are all pretty simple to comprehend, if you know anything about those places.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Our new Foreign Secretary will sort them all out in short order.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

That's not my intention at all. My interest lies in preserving the well being of free societies, because without them, we regress to archaic standards of living, such as can been seen in several Mideast nations.

I'm aware of 4 European countries who have tried to under report and downplay rape against women, those being Sweden, England, Germany, and Denmark.

See why some of us are skeptical about what's going on here? Germany received 1m refugees in one year, and immediately sexual assaults rise, and police officers are caught lying about the number of assaults, probably at the behest of government leaders.
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Anchorage, Philly and Houston are all pretty simple to comprehend, if you know anything about those places.

Its not your interest? Bull****.

"Top 5 places of birth for Paris' Foreign Nationals, plus official religion of said places:
1. Algeria (Sunni Islam)
2. Portugal (Secular State)
3. Morocco (Sunni Islam)
4. Tunisia (Sunni Islam
5. Guadeloupe (Roman Catholic)"