$30,000,000

[OldFatGuy]

Aw, look at all the false equivalence!

How much has it cost for Individual 1 to play golf and go on vacation all the time?

See how easy that is?

No. His golf trips are out of pocket, as were Eisenhower's, Ford's, Obama's etal.

 

[OldFatGuy]

It wasn’t an “award”, it’s called a forfeiture. Every bit of what was taken is kept by the government.

Semantics, meaningless semantics. All forfeitures are awards to the plaintiff when the government is the plaintiff. Don't be a duff.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Semantics, meaningless semantics. All forfeitures are awards to the plaintiff when the government is the plaintiff. Don't be a duff.

Wrong again, FatGuy. There are distinct differences between court ordered awards and government seizures/forfeitures. Don’t be ignorant.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

No. His golf trips are out of pocket, as were Eisenhower's, Ford's, Obama's etal.

The game is paid for by Trump (supposedly). All other expenses, and there are a lot of them, are born by the taxpayers.

 

[beefheart]

No. His golf trips are out of pocket, as were Eisenhower's, Ford's, Obama's etal.

All them trips on AF 1 are not paid by Individual 1....

 

[Mr Person]

How many medical bills could be paid with $30,000,000?

How many hungry people could be fed with $30,000,000?

How many vaccines could be paid for with $30,000,000?

How many girl scout cookies could be bought for $30,000,000?

How many police officers could be sensitivity trained for $30,000,000?

How many serious wounded vets could be treated with $30,000,000 of therapy?

$30,000,000 is the amount spent so far on the Mueller Investigations. Does the return warrant the investment of taxpayer money? If not, should the Democrats pick up the tab? Let's say just Bill and Hil, they can afford the bill.

You create a thread about 30 million in alleged cost but have no problem with Trump's policies putting our deficit over $1,000,000,000,000 in 2019 despite it being a good economy, and you didn't even get the 30 million right.

:doh

What does one have to do with the other? Lemons and Prunes.

Another poster who thinks making a show of pretending not to understand a point functions as an argument against that point, eh?

 

[JoanDavis]

How many medical bills could be paid with $30,000,000?

How many hungry people could be fed with $30,000,000?

How many vaccines could be paid for with $30,000,000?

How many girl scout cookies could be bought for $30,000,000?

How many police officers could be sensitivity trained for $30,000,000?

How many serious wounded vets could be treated with $30,000,000 of therapy?

$30,000,000 is the amount spent so far on the Mueller Investigations. Does the return warrant the investment of taxpayer money? If not, should the Democrats pick up the tab? Let's say just Bill and Hil, they can afford the bill.

Were you upset about the MILLIONS spent on the Clinton investigations? And how do you feel about the $100 MILLION wasted on trump's golf games and vacations to date?

And I see trump is still insisting the American taxpayer pay for his wall despite him initially promising Mexico pay for it!!!!

 

[JoanDavis]

Nothing more than a loony leftist conspiracy by butt hurt sore losers of the 2016 election.


No it wouldn't. Treason is clearly defined in the Constitution. The loony lib-tard conspiracy theory of Trump colluding with the Russians so he can win the election is not treason.


Article 3 Section 3-

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

So if trump gives our enemies aid and comfort, that would constitute treason? So that $50 million penthouse trump promised Putin could be treason - unless Putin is America's best friend of course.

Oh surprise - Putin IS America's best friend. trump says so. So no treason here.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Wrong again, FatGuy. There are distinct differences between court ordered awards and government seizures/forfeitures. Don’t be ignorant.

Where did you read Federal Law? You are ignorant and ignorance is no excuse of the law.

 

[OldFatGuy]

The game is paid for by Trump (supposedly). All other expenses, and there are a lot of them, are born by the taxpayers.

Since when are other expenses of concern? Certainly not for Eisenhower, Ford, Nixon, Kennedy and so forth. During the conflicts between Wilson and Truman with their SS details, they carried their own costs of personal protection rather than suffer the Secret Service's restrictions, as did FDR when he retreated to Hyde Park.

NEXT

 

[OldFatGuy]

So if trump gives our enemies aid and comfort, that would constitute treason? So that $50 million penthouse trump promised Putin could be treason - unless Putin is America's best friend of course.

Oh surprise - Putin IS America's best friend. trump says so. So no treason here.

Except there was no time of war, but a time of peace between Russia and the US, and there still is no time of war between the two. Dumb as a cluck.

 

[SCrider]

How many medical bills could be paid with $30,000,000?

How many hungry people could be fed with $30,000,000?

How many vaccines could be paid for with $30,000,000?

How many girl scout cookies could be bought for $30,000,000?

How many police officers could be sensitivity trained for $30,000,000?

How many serious wounded vets could be treated with $30,000,000 of therapy?

$30,000,000 is the amount spent so far on the Mueller Investigations. Does the return warrant the investment of taxpayer money? If not, should the Democrats pick up the tab? Let's say just Bill and Hil, they can afford the bill.

Stupid game to play, That money never would have gone to any of these. it's not like it was a this or that with 30,000,000.

 

[OldFatGuy]

All them trips on AF 1 are not paid by Individual 1....

Less we forget, Trump preferred his own transportation, as more luxurious, safer, than AF !, which was rejected in favor of the tin can with a Telephone because it wasn't vetted by the Secret Service which didn't have personal trained to use the available equipment, You'll have to do better.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Another poster who thinks making a show of pretending not to understand a point functions as an argument against that point, eh?

There is no connection between national debt with whitehouse expenses. Who is the pretender? You?

 

[OldFatGuy]

Were you upset about the MILLIONS spent on the Clinton investigations? And how do you feel about the $100 MILLION wasted on trump's golf games and vacations to date?

And I see trump is still insisting the American taxpayer pay for his wall despite him initially promising Mexico pay for it!!!!

Another fool who confuses personal expenses with government expenses. I didn't think it was possible Joan, but you've done it again!

 

[Mr Person]

There is no connection between national debt with whitehouse expenses. Who is the pretender? You?

Call me whatever names you like. It doesn't change the fact that:

(1) your entire thread was based on the idea that Mueller's investigation cost money when the Manafort forfeitures more than pay for it (not that the cost should be a consideration given the investigation's nature),

(2) if you want to complain about wasted money, 30 million wouldn't be a drop in the bucket. If money really was the concern, you would be focusing on a tax cut package that is adding over 600 BILLION to the yearly deficit in a good economy. Complaining about a 30 million - which again was wrong - is downright silly. Go start some threads on the massively wasteful tax cut package if you really do care about wasting money.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Trumps 2019 military parade will cost $30,000,000 or more.

The Mueller investigation is worth far more than a frivolous military exercise to stroke Trumps insatiable ego.

 

[ThoughtEx.]

No. His golf trips are out of pocket, as were Eisenhower's, Ford's, Obama's etal.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/...pocket-spokesman-said/prklOF51wXXnUyPIgo6fGO/

Uh, nope.

He tries to justify it because he donates his 400k salary.

But the golfcart rentals alone almost eat that salary up.

There is a reason that the secret service requested 33 million for travel. Trump vacations 3-7 days a week, mostly at his own properties. So not only is he costing us money, he's enriching himself.

It's bull****.

And anyone that want's to bitch about an investigation because it wastes money (when it's netted), and ignores this is a hypocrite at the very least.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Where did you read Federal Law? You are ignorant and ignorance is no excuse of the law.

The correct question is “have you read federal forfeiture statutes?”, because from what you’ve posted it’s clear that you have not. For your benefit I’ll repeat myself, don’t be ignorant.

Since when are other expenses of concern? Certainly not for Eisenhower, Ford, Nixon, Kennedy and so forth. During the conflicts between Wilson and Truman with their SS details, they carried their own costs of personal protection rather than suffer the Secret Service's restrictions, as did FDR when he retreated to Hyde Park.

NEXT

Since Trump railed on about how Obama spent so much time on the golf course and said he wouldn’t do the same because he’d be too busy doing his MAGA thing.
Remember that BS? https://youtu.be/-SItU_PMMeA
Trump has played golf 167 times in less than 2 years as president.
https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnews...nt-donald-trump-played-golf-in-office-103836/
Obama played golf 333 in 8 years as president.
https://thegolfnewsnet.com/golfnews...esident-barack-obama-play-golf-office-103838/
That means Trump spends 4X as much time golfing than Obama. What a lying sack of hypocritical crap.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Call me whatever names you like. It doesn't change the fact that:

(1) your entire thread was based on the idea that Mueller's investigation cost money when the Manafort forfeitures more than pay for it (not that the cost should be a consideration given the investigation's nature),

(2) if you want to complain about wasted money, 30 million wouldn't be a drop in the bucket. If money really was the concern, you would be focusing on a tax cut package that is adding over 600 BILLION to the yearly deficit in a good economy. Complaining about a 30 million - which again was wrong - is downright silly. Go start some threads on the massively wasteful tax cut package if you really do care about wasting money.

Then you donate $30 mil?

 

[Saladin4]

Then you donate $30 mil?

How much you going to donate for that piece **** Wall?...I don't plan on paying one cent.....

 

[Mr Person]

Then you donate $30 mil?

Reread (1)

 

[OldFatGuy]

Reread (1)

cop out

 

[JoanDavis]

The republicans just wasted another load of taxpayer money. The interview with Comey was a waste of time. The interview offered NOTHING new to the investigation. So why did they demand he be interviewed again? And the republicans on the committee are now complaining that Comey said 'I don't know' and 'I don't recall' several times.

What hypocrites. How many times have we seen republicans do this in investigations and the republicans didn't bat an eyelid. But now one of their own who doesn't kiss trump's butt does the same thing and they all start having tantrums.

 

[JoanDavis]

How much you going to donate for that piece **** Wall?...I don't plan on paying one cent.....

Since I am not Mexican, I won't be paying one cent towards trump's Berlin wall either.

To think Ronald Reagan helped tear down the Berlin Wall and trump is hell bent on building one. Reagan - like Bush Snr - are rolling in their graves right now.