jfuh
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Well let's see, it's a bit difficult to debate anything seriously when the OP makes a statement in that the reason for rape incest and so on of this particular instance involves the mexican culture itself actually promoting it.I made a choice. Instead of moving yet another thread, and again, making SgtRock's posting an administrative issue, I decided to, as a poster, address and debate the real issue at hand. SgtRock responded in kind. You could, too. You all could. Let's discuss the issue:
How much culpability do you think parents have when they, knowingly, put their children near a known child molester and allow them to interact with that person unsupervised, and, henceforth, said child is molested? I say removal for negligence at the least, prosecution as accessories at the most.
What say y'all?
Well let's see, it's a bit difficult to debate anything seriously when the OP makes a statement in that the reason for rape incest and so on of this particular instance involves the mexican culture itself actually promoting it.
That the parents because they are mexican's hence allow for such an instance to go on - which is total bullshit.
But I get it now, if the poster continues to post bullshit within the forum of threads that do not belong in certain sub-forums then that poster can get away with it and no longer will said threads be moved.
OK, so back to posting breaking news about climate back in the breaking news section, which was somehow unexplainably moved in the first place - maybe personal reasons of mods having issue with climate not allowed in the breaking news section?
Parents? They never were parents to begin with - sterilized so as to prevent them from having any more children that they will be irresponsible for.No, the issue here is that a 3 year old was raped by an uncle, known to be a child molester by the parents, who happened to be an illegal immigrant. The first part of the sentence is the primary focus, which is now under debate. The second part is ancillary, and doesn't need to be. You can either chose to debate it or not.
As far as the thread being moved, doing so will in no way allow the primary issue to be debated...sad considering it's importance. It is my experience that threads such as these, when moved get ignored. Let's try something different and try to debate the topic at hand, instead of just slamming the OP's motivations, regardless of his motivations.
If I'm wrong, and this goes nowhere, I'll be the first to admit my error and move the thread.
Now enough administrative stuff. How should these parents be dealt with?
Parents? They never were parents to begin with - sterilized so as to prevent them from having any more children that they will be irresponsible for.
such threads become ignored when moved because when you take away the sarges racial hatred towards mexicans there's nothing left to be said about the criminal acts. Everyone here despises these criminal acts and the criminals themselves regardless of their status.
But in an act of honesty the sarge has finally admitted of his xenophobia and insists that it's the mexican culture that promotes crime. Hence we can expect to see many more of these pointless crime threads.
No, it does not belong in the "Sex and Sexuality" forum.
Rape is not about sex or sexuality.
It is a crime of violence.
A raped, bleeding 3-year-old has nothing to do with "sex".
She is a victim of a violent crime.
What a reprehensible suggestion.
Im telling you its part of there culture. ~ Sgt Rock
Captain Courtesy said:How much culpability do you think parents have when they, knowingly, put their children near a known child molester and allow them to interact with that person unsupervised, and, henceforth, said child is molested? I say removal for negligence at the least, prosecution as accessories at the most.
What say y'all?
Sgt Rock said:Im telling you its part of there culture. ~ Sgt Rock
Consistent with the culture? Prove it.Yeah really. This is not only about the crime, but who's committing it as well. If it weren't so consistent, it would merely be about the crime. But it is a common factor in that culture, so it must be exposed as both to get to the bottom of it.
As a Mexican descendant with family members still in Mexico, I'm telling you it's not part of their
culture.
I would agree. I know many people(of all races) who have that "scary uncle"and know better than to leave children alone with them.
As a Mexican descendant with family members still in Mexico, I'm telling you it's not part of their culture. Mexicans, especially in small towns, are quite religious and wouldn't stand for any rape or pedophilia. It's not common and if that were to happen to any of my cousins or aunts I can assure you their male relatives would be out there with a shotgun in a heartbeat to fulfill justice for their female relative. I have never witnessed any of this to be acceptable and for you to say rape can be a ritual or whatever is completely false. Why even as a young woman whenever I stay in my family's town in Mexico, I have never felt threatened or the need to feel alarmed when I walk around at night alone.
I would agree. I know many people(of all races) who have that "scary uncle"and know better than to leave children alone with them. It's the parent's responsibility to know who their child is with at all times and to knowingly leave their child with a known molester is negligent and I agree they are accessories to the crime.
You honestly believe that this is a cultural mentality that causes them to be a pedophile or a rapists?
Well then by default we will have to say that the catholic church is equally pedophilic then.
This is nothing but a sick twisted wacko - has nothing at all to do with race or culture.
Does the non-prosecution have more to do with government corruption and incompetence or an actual cultural aspect which, btw, good luck proving.Actually, jfuh, he is correct. Mexico, particularly the outling states, do not often prosecute rape or sex-related crime. Some people believe this is a cultural issue; it isn't, it's a result of mexican mafia inflitration/corruption of the mexican government.
:mrgreen:
Tell me if this doesn't happen in Mexico. A Family of Panhandlers will use their children to beg because kids are cute, helpless and easier to have sympathy for. Once the kid turns 12, she's not as cute anymore so what do they do with their useless 12 year old panhandler? Get her pregnant to make more cute little hustlers.
some naturalized citizens:
Charles Manson
John Wayne Gacy
Jeffery Dahmer
Let's send them back to their country!
Moderator's Warning: |
No, it does not belong in the "Sex and Sexuality" forum.
Rape is not about sex or sexuality.
It is a crime of violence.
A raped, bleeding 3-year-old has nothing to do with "sex".
She is a victim of a violent crime.
What a reprehensible suggestion.
So my brother in law, who is mexican, just happened to look over my shoulder at this post, and thought it was the one of the most offensive and racist things he had ever read.
OK, folks, I and a few other posters gave it a try...to turn this thread into a reasonable discussion of what the issue here is; as the title states, a 3-year old raped by her uncle, and the concerns the article has around parents who allowed this child to interact with this uncle who had been accused of molesting others. Apparently, this has been an unsuccessful endeavor, as, once again, an issue has been demeaned by the ancillary illegal immigration issue. If the topic were about poor enforcement of rape crimes in Mexico, I'd assume the thread would be titled that way. It is not. I will now bow out of my 'poster' role, and move into my 'mod' role.
Moderator's Warning: Stay on topic folks, paying attention to the thread title. This thread could become Basement fodder real quick.
EDIT: Captain Courtesy said everything that i was going to post here.
(Though we should have a "Crime" forum)
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