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2nd amendment sanity

they arent.

case closed.

Oh good! I'll expect you to come in swinging when the next ate up with frothing hysteria anti gun zealot comes ranting in about the blood on the hands of the evil gun nuts.
 
"Something should be banned but we can't say what, because that would require us to defend a position we are entirely clueless about."
There you go again.

You don't seem capable of honest conversation.

I don't know why I bother talking to you. The only points you make are dishonest ones.

Boring.
 
Oh good! I'll expect you to come in swinging when the next ate up with frothing hysteria anti gun zealot comes ranting in about the blood on the hands of the evil gun nuts.
More dishonesty.

Equating "all gun owners" with "gun nuts".

Most of us gun owners are with the majority of Americans who want Stricter gun control.

That is a fact.

You really don't seem capable of honest conversation.

Maybe you really can't distinguish.
 
There you go again.

You don't seem capable of honest conversation.

I don't know why I bother talking to you. The only points you make are dishonest ones.

Boring.

That isn't the position of those who demand bans but refuse to say what it is they want banned?
 

Oh...so a derogatory term is a proper description of someone who politically disagrees. Everyone should just know that those people who politically disagree are the ones with blood on their hands.

Glad it doesn't include me, since I'm on the record here as advocating criminal background checks for the possession of both guns and motor vehicles.
 
Oh...so a derogatory term is a proper description of someone who politically disagisn't.

More dishonesty.

not what i said.

You are the king of the straw man.
 
More dishonesty.

not what i said.

You are the king of the straw man.

Hey...in your haste to "honestly" edit my post, you ****ed up the spelling.
 
Already did.

Post number?

And how would you characterize the argument of someone who advocates banning something, but won't say what they are advocating banning? Idiocy? Cowardice?
 
Hey...in your haste to "honestly" edit my post, you ****ed up the spelling.
I didn't edit your post intentionally. Just cut off everything past the first sentence. Which was where I stopped reading.

Why on earth would I intentionally change

".....someone who politically disagrees."

To

"...someone who politically disagisn't."

What would be the point?
 
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Post number?

And how would you characterize the argument of someone who advocates banning something, but won't say what they are advocating banning? Idiocy? Cowardice?
I would characterize it as somone who agrees with the notion and understands that the specific definition will be negotiated as part of the passage in Congress.

Just like somone that thinks that pornagraphy should be banned for minors and understands that the specifics of what is, and is not, included in the legal definition of pornagraphy will be negotiated in Congress.

How many times do I need to explain that to you?
 

You say you didn't edit my post intentionally, and then explain how you edited my post intentionally.

We can't continue with duplicitous nonsense like that. Maybe later.
 
Same old schtick.

Don't be obtuse. Congress will define the specifics.

That is how it works.
and as you know, SCOTUS has already told you that you can't ban the types of firearms you want to.
 
It's not deflection to state the fact that precisely which firearms will and will not be included in the law will be negotiated in Congress.
nope, as SCOTUS has told you, no firearm in common use can be banned.
 
Those are already banned. The only exceptions are under heavy ATF supervision.
You don’t watch the news, I take it.
 
and as you know, SCOTUS has already told you that you can't ban the types of firearms you want to.
The current SCOTUS has told us that what SCOTUS says can always be changed.
 
You don’t watch the news, I take it.
I keep track of the news and there hasn't been any use of "weapons that are designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time", meaning bombs or chemical weapons. Those things have been banned from civilian access for a very long time, the only people who can get them have special ATF licenses and dedicated facilities, and their use is under ATF supervision like the ski resort that uses artillery to trigger avalanches before skiers arrive or fireworks makers.

There hasn't been any use of "weapons that are designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time" in the US since the bombing of the Bosten Merithon years ago.
 
Ah ok. We are pretending. I was talking about guns, like the one used to kill a bunch of people in. Short amount of time recently in Allen, TX.
 
No they haven't.
Yes, they have. Recently they overturned a 50 year precedent. So yes, SCOTUS rulings can be changed.
 
I was talking about guns,
All the guns that were "designed to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time" were banned in 1986. The only time in the last 30 years one of them was used in any kind of crime was when a police officer took a duty rifle out of his patrol car to murder his wife's boyfriend, and that was decades ago.

Modern guns that civilians have access to aren't designed to " kill a large number of people in a short amount of time". To argue that they are is to argue the same design intent of SUVs given the more lethal rundown also in texas about a week ago.
 
and as you know, SCOTUS has already told you that you can't ban the types of firearms you want to.
Heller dies not rule that assault weapons bans are unconstitutional.

It might be used in a future arguement to that effect .....but as of yet the Supreme court has not ruled such bans to be unconstitutional.
 
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